I was really pleased to read
I was really pleased to read the above. My ownership of an '83 Civic FE came in 2005 when I found two Civics in the back lot of a local auto repair shop. One, (the FE), had evidently blown a head gasket some ten years prior judging from the 1994 inspections sticker. The second was a plain '81 Civic that had met its end in a collision. It was the intention of the shop owner to make a "good" car out of the two but he just never got around to do so.
I bought both for $200. The engine in the wrecked '81 test ran fine so I did a swap using all of the FE's original accessories. It's been on the road for nearly two years and I average about 42 mpg in mixed driving. I'm sure that this would go up 4 or 5 mpg if it had the advanced engine features of the '82/83 models.
I love that little car and it sure beats car payments and big gas bills from the oil companies!
Back in the mid early 80's I
Back in the mid early 80's I bought a used 1982 Civic HB with about 17k miles. It would never get less the 37mpg no matter how hard I drove it, and on long trips it would average in the low to mid 40's.
I got rid of it when it had 110k miles - wish I had it now......the MPG is so dissappointing on the current line up of fuel efficient cars today, doubly so considering the technological advancements in the last 25 years.
I ordered and bought new and
I ordered and bought new and had the civic FE in 1982 about $8000 ran it up and down the coast of CA driving it 100mph plus in the 80.s accident free, handled beautiful and lucky as they were known to break legs in accidents, Ive crawled out from under my wreaked 76 MG Midget spun out my AMC Matador, put 145 K miles only changed the oil and clutch tires brakes no problems and got 50 plus mpg highway in my civic, it started and ran like a sewing maching when i sold it for $800 in 88. I could put my Lawn mower edger weed eater and my 100 lb German Shepard in it and was one of the best car I ever owned
The new 82 Civic FE that I
The new 82 Civic FE that I bought for my wife would go 70 mph all day long with the AC on. The best gas mileage I ever got was 48 MPG in West Texas going 55 MPH. Oh, it didn't have a lot of steam going up hills. But, it could pull out on an expressway with the best of them. It was incredibly quite and easy to maintain. I want to buy another one. It was as good as anything available today.
I owned a Civic FE that was
I owned a Civic FE that was purchased new in 1983. I still say this every time I think about gas prices and EXPENSIVE new cars. It was THE BEST CAR, that I have EVER owned, in the last 25 years, (this includes three Hondas, three Fords, and a Hyundai).
On a trip to Ohio, from Mississippi, we actually hit 64 mpg! My husband and I actually thought that the gas gauge was broken! We got to Ohio on one tank of gas. When we moved from Mississippi, to NJ, we towed a full sized U-Haul trailer, filled with furnishings and the like, and she ran like a charm. The only problem that we ever had with the car, was also on a trip to Ohio, where the snow and ice got through the grill, and froze up the engine. When the engine was "thawed", a simple piece for cardboard took care of that. The ONLY reason it was traded in, was because it was not practical for putting kids in the back, (it was a two door car, and it was hard to get them in and out).
My question is this though: If I could buy a car in 1982, that got such incredible gas mileage, why in this day and age, is there NOTHING offered to the US people, other than expensive hybrids? They say that the American people would never buy it [the little fuel efficient cars], because we want "MORE". But, we don't ever have the OPTION of buying a car like the Civic FE any more. In the year 2008, we should be able to purchase a car that gets incredible, (80 to 100 mpg) gas mileage. Just comparing the 25 year difference, doesn't make sense to me. Why was there such a HUGE step backwards to gas guzzling cars of the 60's and 70's? I mean this IS 2008! Seriously, if I can talk to a person anywhere in the world on a phone no bigger than a stick of gum, why can't technology keep up the pace with engines.
And finally, what happened during the late 80's, early 90's, that turned around the "gas crisis" of then? As a young child, I remember the gas lines of the 70's waiting in HUGE lines for a $5.00 limit of gas. I also remember that when we got that little Honda, the gas mileage was the biggest factor of the purchase.
Why did we as a nation, start using the big SUV's and not worry about gas anymore? It's like one decade was really bad for gas, (hence why they offered small cars with great gas mileage), then it seems like over night, Explorers and the like were covering our highways. What the heck happened? Can somebody PLEASE tell me this.
I had a '92 Honda Civic DX 4
I had a '92 Honda Civic DX 4 door with automatic transmission and AC. I drove about 30,000 miles per year (mostly highway miles) for work back then and I would consistently average 39 - 42 mpg with regular unleaded. That car had something like 97 hp and drove nice. It had a driver's side airbag too. There seem to be lots of them still on the road today. On top of everything, it was an econo car, which meant it was inexpensive to buy 16 years ago.
Honda would do well to build a car like that again. I would buy a new one for my 65 mile a day commute.
the battery units lose their
the battery units lose their warranty after 100k miles the problem is that they cost up to 4k which is the same value of the car
Actually the early 80's CVCC
Actually the early 80's CVCC Hondas were about the cleanest carberated cars made not quite a LEV but many times cleaner than the cars of the 70's. My 1984 Accord at 150000 miles was still below 5ppm HC and the CO and NOx and other readings were always very low until I tested it in 2002. It failed until I treated the carb with carb cleaner then it was as low as before. I drove 2500 miles a year at that point and suspect that is one of the reasons the carb gummed up.
I also bought a 1983 1300FE
I also bought a 1983 1300FE and found it to be THE BEST CAR I have ever owned. If I could buy another today, I would.
I kept meticulous records of every fill-up and got 55 mpg on the highway (46 mpg in the city) -- real mpg, not bastardized epa numbers. I cringe when I hear car companies advertizing their fabulous "30 highway-mpg" numbers.
When I went to get my emmisions tested (mid 80s), the person testing the car told me that I had to turn my engine on and let it idle. It was on. The emmisions were so low the tester could not believe the car was running!!
It was, in fact, the safest car in its class when I bought it. The fact that it loses in safety to the Abrhams tanks being driven around today is not a poor reflection on it, rather on a short-sighted society who will be pining in the not too distant future, "Where is my cheap gas? Why isn't the government doing something to get me cheap gas? I want, I want, I want..."
Yes, I too had to help push it uphill, but it was worth it -- to me, to America, to the world.
This thread reminds of an
This thread reminds of an article I just recently wrote for the Examiner.
My friend Kyle is the author of the site and I occasionally write some articles for him.
I’m sure this subject has been covered by others with much more educated minds than mine, but with the price of gas I want to throw in my two cents.
Thirty-six years ago in 1972 Honda released its first small car here in the U.S. market. The Honda Civic with its 1169cc four-cylinder engine that put out roughly 50 horsepower in a car that weighed about 1500 lbs. These cars were regularly getting 40 miles per gallon.
In 1985 Honda also released the CRX HF (High Fuel Economy) version with a 1500cc engine with 58 horsepower that was getting 52 mpg.
Let’s also throw in a few other “classic” cars from the same era that were pulling down some fairly comparable mpg figures. Do you remember the Mazda GLC, Dodge Colt and the Ford Fiesta? They were all listed as getting in the low 40 mpg range (all gas engine cars, no diesels).
Now for 2008, the Honda Civic is listed as achieving 34 mpg with an 1800cc engine that puts out 140 horsepower. There is quite a large handful of other cars (Scion XD, Pontiac Vibe, Kia Rio, Hyundai Accent and Ford Focus to name a few) that are listed as achieving mpg numbers in the low to mid 30’s with engines from 1.6 to 2.0 liter and horsepower figures from 110 -140 range. It seems that if we want a car with mpg numbers in the 40’s we have to look at purchasing one of the new hybrid automobiles.
Automotive technology has come a long way since 1972, especially if you look at the horsepower numbers of the current automobiles and don’t take this wrong, horsepower is nice - there is still a thrill to be had in a sprint from 0 – 60 in 7 seconds or less.
Automobile manufacturers have invested a ton of money and time to get this type of performance from today’s engines. They also have had to meet much stricter emission standards so it is obvious that the technology advances must be incredible.
So, with that being said, why is it that we had cars reaching 40 plus mpg thirty-six years ago and now to get that kind of gas mileage in your car you have to buy a hybrid? You would think that with the amount of technology available today that higher fuel economy is achievable without having to go hybrid?
If the fuel economy numbers would have advanced at the same rate as horsepower figures have, we could conceivably have cars that would be getting around 80 mpg. What are manufacturers doing to help increase the economy of their cars? Where will we be in the next 30 years?
At today’s fuel prices would you be willing to forgo having a little 4-cylinder engine in your car cranking out 140 horsepower, for a car that gets even 60 mpg?
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I had an 82 civic FE and I
I had an 82 civic FE and I drove it like I stole it. It always got 40mpg. Sure it didn't have alot of power but it was enough to go anywhere. It was alot stonger than my 66 bug with it's 30hp engine.
Have you ever owned one? I
Have you ever owned one? I have an 83 civic S It moves nimble and fast to 50 mph cruises 75-80 easy on the hwy..
I had an 1982 Civic FE, I
I had an 1982 Civic FE, I did 57mpg on highway. Was a great car. Top speed 83mph on the 5th speed but 98mph on the 4th speed. Acceleration was ok and i still not understand why 26 yeard later i can't find a gas car like the FE???? Was too good????
I still have an 83 FE that I
I still have an 83 FE that I have owned for five years. I worked on a construction project at Crater Lake a couple of years ago and would make the 400 mile trip from corvallis weekly. I am surprised to see the reports saying it was a slug. It has a great cruising speed of 75 to 80mph. Mine has 221,000 miles and I usually drive like hell and get about 50 mpg on the hwy. I got over forty while trying a hypermile experiment in mixed city/hwy conditions.
My only beef is in its climbing power; I can do 55 up nearly any hill, but it has me doing it in 3rd gear winding the engine well beyond the gas saving zone. I will drive this car until it pukes and then step away satisfied that I bought it used years eariler for $500.00
I think someone hit it on the head when they talked about the crash test results being a primary factor in Honda not producing more like this excellent little car.