Considering that there are
Considering that there are plenty of documented Priuses floating around with 200k+ on the original battery pack (at least one with 349k), I would question your baseless assumption that "at best" the batteries will last 7-8 years, and "NOT" the lifetime of the car.
The inadvertent irony of your final sentence is that if you had done your research, you would have known this already.
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Just check out this page - has all the info you want...
I am totally on board with
I am totally on board with you. I don't understand these pointless arguments some people have over how much will it cost to replace the batteries. They need to look at the big picture and start doing something about the way we live, and consume the earth. Arguing and bickering will only lead to a standstill that will never allow us to move in the right direction. Your post is very good and to the point.
You and I line
You and I line up directly. I love the Easter Island analogy! You might enjoy my heretical rant on today's lead article "Why Americans Get Mileage All Wrong" (https://www.hybridcars.com/decision/w...rong-0620.html).
Thanks for nice comment on
Thanks for nice comment on Hybrid Battery. Keep it up and nicely done. They are the future cause our resource will finish very soon.
I think you may be confusing
I think you may be confusing it with the all electric car batteries. The older ones definitely gave up the ghost after 4-5 years because of the deep cycles. Newer ones are warranted for 7 or 8 years which is good for the consumer, but I will have to wait and see in real world testing if they in fact last that long.
Time is the true test.
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Thanks for the
Thanks for the useful post. I prefer this kind of contribution to your other posts that shamelessly try to direct us to your site.
Thanks ex-EV1! I will try to
Thanks ex-EV1! I will try to contribute more. I don't force anyone to check out our site, it's just good business practice.
I'm not some teen-age geek hidden away in his mom's house. I'm a 50 year old man who has loved cars all his life.
I have several businesses with employees. When I discovered this water hybrid technology, I was blown away- I couldn't believe our Auto Makers had not been putting these things in our cars by now.
I researched it thoroughly. I spent thousands of my own money determining if it really worked or if it was some great internet hoax.
Well, it did work. And people are using it around the world. It's saving them money, saving gas, and it cleans up the emissions to almost zero!
Isn't that what we are all trying to achieve here?
When someone asks a question about saving gas, or converting their old car into a hybrid - there are not too many solutions that are both practical and affordable. I want to help those people find a way like I did, that's all.
Water Hybrid Technology is fairly new, so I've taken it upon myself to shout it from the mountain tops, so to speak. People are hurting- budgets are tight and politicians are gutless.
This is a practical solution for a hundred bucks or so. Isn't that a better solution than $6000 more for a few MPG increase?
I will continue to post, but will be mindful of what you said.
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Will never ... ,
Will never ... ,
The problem you're facing is that the Prius battery replacement industry isn't a commodity because it doesn't have to be done very often. You should be able to shop around and get better prices, however, there may not be enough business for Prius battery repairs to give you many options.
Remember that most cars today are ready for major overhaul or replacement at the 140K mile point. $5K is a lot cheaper than a replacement car and not much more than a complete head job + rebuilt transmission.
My 2002 prius was totalled
My 2002 prius was totalled in a car accident by a 17yr old punk in a 94 mercury sable. I had 349,531 miles. The batteries were NEVER replaced. Go to www.john1701a.com go to owners and click on Jesse.
The fact of the matter is
The fact of the matter is you may not have to replace the battery during the warranty's lifetime, but when you think about it that chemical producing hunk of metal will sit in a landfill forever. It can never be fixed once done, never be reused for any of it's parts, and it doesn't help the enviroment at all. We need to worry about what is in our landfills and not what is in our air.
Cars and their components
Cars and their components seldom wind up in landfills. Almost the entire car (hybrid batteries included) is recycled.
To save everyone a couple of
To save everyone a couple of clicks, I did check out the URL, and found this:
"The Prius battery (and the battery-power management system) has been designed to maximize battery life. In part this is done by keeping the battery at an optimum charge level - never fully draining it and never fully recharging it. As a result, the Prius battery leads a pretty easy life. We have lab data showing the equivalent of 180,000 miles with no deterioration and expect it to last the life of the vehicle. We also expect battery technology to continue to improve: the second-generation model battery is 15% smaller, 25% lighter, and has 35% more specific power than the first. This is true of price as well. Between the 2003 and 2004 models, service battery costs came down 36% and we expect them to continue to drop so that by the time replacements may be needed it won't be a much of an issue. Since the car went on sale in 2000, Toyota has not replaced a single battery for wear and tear.”
Fine so far, however, but if you follow the URL on that page just above the paragraph I cite, to get more info on the press release involved, you will find that it's from June of 2004. I agree that the the fact in the first 4 (5?) model years beginning in 2000 there were zero battery replacements required is a good sign, but in discussing the battery life in 2009/2010) , something a little more current would be preferable.
I loathe democrat liberals.
I loathe democrat liberals. they are plain filth. they are elitist, and their logic is based upon they know better than you do. Usually seen wearing birkenstock sandals, that is how you pick them out in a crowd. they love al gore of course. He who wants to sell them carbon credits. but not because, it helps clean up the environment... but so he can get richer. But did you know how he got rich in the first place? he owned $500M of Conoco stock. yes, that right, he was in bed with the dirty oil crowd. He cares less about any of the wacko environmental crowd then he does about his gasoline guzzling cars, and not a single battery-powered one among them. This man is just common filth. all democrat elitists are also common filth.
nice 'balanced' perspective.
nice 'balanced' perspective. what a doucebag...
"the batteries are designed
"the batteries are designed to last the lifetime of the car..." BULL crap. if that was true, why do I have to replace mine after just 22 months due to leakage and corrosion within the hybrid battery compartment. Thats 22 MONTHS!!! at over $1000 per battery!!!!
Better a tree hugger than a
Better a tree hugger than a whiny, girly, tea-party lovin crybaby republican anyday,
Please correct your remark
Please correct your remark above. The Toyota Prius new or used DOES cost 2X the same size non-hybrid auto. The gas-saving feature of the hybrid vanishes when you have to replace the battery. Been there and done that. NO MORE HYBRIDS FOR ME.
I didn't read all of these
I didn't read all of these comments (too many) but I wonder how much the resale value of a hybrid would be if it is 6-8 years old and the new buyer knows that they may have to add an extra $5000 to the cost in a year or so for a new battery. My sister has a hybrid and was considering getting a new car. I was considering buying hers from her until she mentioned that it would be time to replace the battery in the next couple of years. That was a deal breaker for me.
my dick is a hybrid, does it
my dick is a hybrid, does it need a battery?....... nope.