Tomorrow’s Whodunit: Who Might Kill the Chevrolet Volt

It’s been more than a year since General Motors unveiled its visionary Chevy Volt plug-in hybrid concept vehicle. GM promises that the Volt will allow most Americans to drive 40 miles each day without burning a single drop of petroleum. Instead, the energy will come from next-generation batteries recharged from a common household electric outlet.

Since the Chevy Volt’s introduction at last year’s 2007 Detroit Auto Show, the General’s PR machinery has buzzed with ever-increasing intensity, churning out news releases, keynote speeches, and television commercials extolling the virtues of the Volt. The intensity of the buzz is matched by an equal fervor from GM executives and engineers—a level of enthusiasm and dedication bordering on zeal. I’ve met with Volt team leaders on multiple occasions over the past year, and I’ve seen the fire in their eyes. But enthusiasm, and even a big budget, doesn’t ensure GM’s victory against those who would kill the Volt. Below is a futuristic whodunit; print it out and look at it five years from now to see which suspect proved to be guilty as charged.

Suspect #1: OPEC

Of course, our friends in Dhahran and Caracas are not literally trying to undermine GM’s plug-in hybrid project. But innovations like the Chevy Volt and other advanced renewable energy technologies are born of necessity. As long as the price of oil hovers around $100 per barrel, car companies will apply resources to develop fuel-efficient automobiles.

Some predict the price of oil to climb to even more staggering heights—but that’s not guaranteed. The oil price shocks of the 1970s, which brought the first wave of small gas-sipping Japanese cars to American shores, didn’t last forever. Subsequent oil spikes came and went, and subsided to pave the way for the SUV era. In the 1990s, the U.S. government invested $1 billion in hybrid research, but by the late 1990s, oil had dropped to $11 per barrel. With prices at the pump skirting $1 per gallon late in the decade, Detroit decided to leave those advanced technologies on the shelf, even though Toyota soldiered on and launched the Prius.

Another drop in oil prices by $20 or $30 a barrel, even if it lasts only for a few months, could deal a crippling blow to the Volt. Then again, oil-producing countries and companies say they don’t manipulate prices so…

Suspect #2: GM’s Stockholders

The Chevy Volt is an expensive endeavor. GM will invest tens, if not hundreds, of millions of dollars in the project before it sees a penny of profit. How long will GM be willing to subsidize a big and splashy project that doesn’t directly help the bottom line—especially if the company continues to suffer billion-dollar losses and dwindling sales in the shrinking U.S. car market?

I put that to Bob Lutz, GM’s product guru, on the morning before the Volt’s unveiling in Detroit. He said, “About as long as Toyota subsidized the Toyota Prius.” How long was that? About 10 years! Last year, Toyota sold its millionth hybrid vehicle—and only now is the Japanese company claiming to make a profit from its gas-electric cars. Recouping the investment on a plug-in hybrid with 40-mile all-electric range may take even longer. If the Volt comes to market by 2010, then GM won’t make greenbacks from its ultimate green car until 2020. That shouldn’t matter if the company has the long-term picture in mind. But stockholders want results this quarter, not in a decade.

GM’s broader financial challenges could pull the plug on the Volt.

Suspect #3: Sir Isaac Newton

The laws of economics are a formidable challenge to the Volt—but they’re nothing when compared with the laws of physics. GM is basing all its plans for the Volt on the development of lithium ion battery technology, which has never been used for powering a production vehicle. That technology is unproven, yet critical to allowing the Volt to carry enough energy for 40 miles of all-electric driving. Storing enough energy using the current hybrid battery chemistry, nickel metal hydride, would take a couple of trunk loads of battery packs. The company could squeeze in enough nickel metal hydride batteries for five or 10 miles of all-electric range, but GM is going for broke: not a drop of gasoline for everyday driving.

Testing of lithium batteries in the lab, and even on test vehicles, looks promising, according to GM executives. But before any car company can commit to more than a few prototype units, it needs to know that in the real world, those batteries will last the lifetime of the vehicle and will be safe. Any defect in manufacturing could be fatal to the project. Remember those Dell laptops that caught fire? Those were lithium batteries. When batteries are pushed to and beyond physical limitations—and there are limitations—then the longevity and safety of those batteries are compromised. Will GM be willing to take those risks? Or will the company face a perpetual series of delays because Newton’s essential law of physics doesn’t bend to corporate will?

Any one of those threats alone—lower gas prices, shaky company finances, or unproven battery durability—might not be enough to stop GM’s momentum with its plug-in hybrid project. But two out of three could mean the end of the Chevrolet Volt.


  • Aaron

    I sure hope not.

    While I love my Civic Hybrid, I really want to buy American. And the Chevy Volt seems like an awesome concept. The only other option is if GM could drop the two-mode system into say, a Chevy Impala or Cobalt. But hope none of the above happens, though I realize that these things are a possibility.

    Out of curiosity, what did the EV-1 use?

  • DAVE

    Put me down for two. If we get this car, it will be a miracle.

  • Steven B

    It’s fiction that the technology to drive an EV 40 miles on current cutting edge lithium-ion batteries somehow could violate the laws of physics. The batteries exist, but cost is a problem. The Tesla Roadster has over 200 miles of range on lithium-ion batteries, and the vehicle is still a roadster, not a delivery truck. The batteries that caught fire were lithium-cobalt batteries. GM is testing lithium-nanophosphate and lithium-manganese. Nanophosphate has zero risk of thermal runaway. LG Chem’s lithium-manganese are designed to prevent a small thermal event from turning into full-on thermal runaway and destroying the entire battery pack on potentially the vehicle, as well as everything in it, in a giant fireball.

    The EV-1 used first oldschool lead-acid batteries for its first generation, and then NiMHs for its second generation. The lead acid batteries fit in the EV-1 and still gave it more than 40 miles range.

    And lastly, there are converted plug-in Prii out there that safely use lithium-ion batteries and consistently get a more than 40 mile all-electric range. The technology is not bound by severe limitations in the law of physics. Oil has no real reason to go down in price again, ever. But you may be right, though I hope not, that GM may decide to pull the plug due to cost concerns.

    Cost and its affect on GM’s corporate will are the only true concerns right now. We’ll see how that goes.

  • Jeff

    Don’t forget about the recently announced 150 MPG plug-in hybrid SUV –> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/12/eveningnews/main3704867.shtml

    Looks like its a good candidate.

  • Jman

    I like to buy american and all, except with cars. American cars just plain suck. I have no problem giving the japanese money for cars, because at least you know that money goes right back into their company to make even better cars.

    Anyways, isn’t Toyota supposed to make that plug-in Prius soon? All they did was add a second battry pack and it has 6 miles all electric range. That’s something realistic unlike the Volt’s 40 mile range.

  • Tony

    Aaron, if I’m not mistaken, the EV-1 used standard lead-acid batteries. That was a big part of the problem with the vehicle. The batteries were heavy and wore out.

  • John

    If GM does’nt do it, someone else will. Maybe even cheaper and better

  • Simple

    Something cool small 40mpg
    I do not need 200hp 100 is fine
    with me I drive 65mph even when its 70
    Or make a small hybrid that
    gets better than toyota ave 50mpg
    Your ave Joe

  • OldMan

    Ultra capacitors can improve the overall efficiency of the hybrid power train — the idea is not new but the solution for implementing it was not trivial. I suppose it will take another 2…5 years until this kind of hybrid technology will hit the markets. Ultra capacitors represent an emerging technology that seems promising.

    I hope Honda or Toyota will begin using ultra capacitors (I think Toyota has done some research and tested a hybrid prototype equipped with ultra capacitors).

    I guess the fuel economy of such a hybrid vehicle will increase by 10…20% for the average driver (not for a hypermiler!) just because of ultra capacitors.

  • Mike

    The best thing about ultr-capacitors, is it removes another “argument” for hybrid haters.

    No more “$3,000″ battery pack to replace in “less than 100,000 miles” that uses nickel from a mine in Canada! Oh no, the hybrid haters will have to come up with another myth and rumor to start.

  • Rick Metz

    the technology is here..this stuff looks like a sheet of black paper… can be stacked and molded into say..an automobile body…c’mon Detroit get your act together…oterwise I will never buy another American made auto….

  • Old Man Crowder

    Can someone please provide me with a list of “American” cars?

    What does that mean, anyway?

    Parts come from Mexico, Canada, Taiwan, Japan, Europe…All over the place!

    Do you mean “assembled in America”? Well then a lot of Hondas, Toyotas and Nissans qualify as American. My Pontiac Vibe has a Toyota Matrix engine!

    The “American versus Foreign” debate is so 1970s.

  • PaulRivers

    I think this whole article is rather silly. I’m sorry to go a little overboard, but I’m just writing the first thing I thought when I read the title – Who might kill the Chevy Volt? Who cares!

    With all the talk from different companies about plug in vehicles (especially Toyota) I can’t imagine that I (personally) care if Chevy comes out with the Volt or not!

    (…although I could always change my mind if it turns out the be a genuinely reliable car)

  • Wrealistic Wright

    The Chevy Volt is basicly built like an diesel electric locomotive which are mostly built by general motors.This seams to indicate to me that GM already has the ability to build high mpg car minus the batteries. The locomotives pull way more freight on the thousand gallon of fuel that they carry than trucks that held that much fuel could even haul.Locomotives dont use batteries for anything but starting the generator engine.

  • Jon

    #1 This article is stupid

    #2 I’ll buy an American car if and when they ever match the price/quality/return on investment of imports

    #3 Current definition of an American Car: Car whose manufacture was managed by typical incompetent American corporation.

  • Jon

    The problem isn’t the cars, it’s the lifestyle. Commuting long distances to work and failure to use public transit. Cars are NOT the solution, not even super fuel efficient cars. Consider this fuel usage in liters per capital (2003 numbers)

    US USA 1,635.20
    Switz. CHE 656.2
    Sweden SWE 593.9
    Norway NOR 461.2
    UK GBR 436
    Germany DEU 402.7
    Israel ISR 401.9
    Italy ITA 344.7
    France FRA 260.4
    Spain ESP 242.8
    Rus Fed RUS 230.3
    Brazil BRA 84.8
    China CHN 44.6
    India IND 9.6

    You really think a hybrid will fix that kind of imbalance? The US is sliding into the gutter economically because it’s infrastructure system is fundamentally flawed.

  • Mike

    GM no longer manufactures locomotives, as the EMD division was sold a few years ago.

    As for the Volt, its not that simple. In a locomotive, a diesel engine constantly runs a generator, which is fed to the traction motors. In the Volt, the battery runs the “traction motors” for what GM says is 40 miles. Afterwards, then the engine kicks in the recharge the batteries.

  • HONDA MINI GENERATOR

    WHY CAN YOU JUST STRAP A MINI GENERATOR TO YOUR PRIUS. WHILE YOU DRIVE YOU CHARGE. MY HONDA GENERATOR RUNS WELL OVER 10 HOURS ON A GALLON. WOULDNT THIS EXTEND YOUR BATTERIES AND USE EXTREMELY LOW FUEL ON LONG TRIPS!

  • Mike

    Putting an oil-burning, greenhouse gas-emmitting mini generator on a hybrid or an electric car kinda defeats the purpose, doesn’t it?

    Please, don’t type in all caps either.

  • Ede

    When they bring them out get them and don’t give them back when they recall it

  • Jon

    You can probably answer that question yourself… I’m allowed to be a little rude if you start of yelling.

    FWIW on the Prius the ICE generates 57 kW, the traction battery can output 21 kW for a total of 78 kW. Somehow the prius tech specs say a total of 82 Kw of power.

    I’m guessing your Honda Mini Gen puts out 1-2kW max. Running 10 hours on a gallon is probably not running 10 hours at full load either.

  • Bill

    I agree with Jon. If Americans would commit to mass transit instead of our self-centered needs, we would not have such an oil dependency. We would have to demand efficient and effective systems from our various governments, just as we do for our highways. I have lived in Florida for the past 12 years and I-95 has been under construction to add additional lanes for the past 10 or eleven years. It would have been nice if the same money had been spent on a high-speed railway from Jacksonville to Miami, and from Daytona to Orlando to Tallahassee.

    One more thing, wouldn’t it be nice if the batteries and their placement in the vehicles could be standardized so that we could have battery replacment stations throughout the country, similar to the way we now have replacement lp gas tanks.

  • Jeff

    This is a great forum.

    Here’s reality. I drove a 1997 GM EV1 for 3 years and put over 30,000 miles on it. It was my everyday car. I commuted from Santa Monica, CA to Hollywood, CA to work in it. 30 miles round trip.

    I got about 48 miles per charge because I drove that rocket of a car like a maniac. I floored it almost all the time. It would peal-out real good. It was the most fun car I ever had and, back in the day, I had a fully race build 65′ GTO with a 485hp V8. (9 MPG).

    I charged my EV1 most of the time with my magna-charger that was wall mounted in my garage. It would charge about 80% of the battery in less than an hour. The last 20% took many hours, like 5 or 6. One full charge at home cost about 40 cents. That’s 40 cents to go about 40 miles or so. My monthly power bill was about $30 a month more than before I had the EV1. If I wanted to go somewhere after work, I charged at work using the small 110v charger that came with the car. It would be fully charged. I was always abel to go anywhere I wanted. You could find 30 amp charging stations all over So. Cal. because of the program run by Southern California Edison. who installed them.

    I didn’t buy any gas for 3 years. Yes, the EV1 was an expensive hand build test market car. But GM only made about 1100 EV1s. They would of course be a lot cheaper to mass produce now. I miss that car dearly and I wish I could have had a generation 2 EV1. I got to borrow a gen2 car from the dealership for a weekend once. It got a sold 120 miles per charge with the nickel batts.

    When I think back now on that EV1 lifestyle I got to live for 3 years it seems like a dream. Never having to stop at a gas station. Especially in the middle of the night. Having my car “full” and ready to go every morning using my own home power. Never having to take my car in for a tune up or oil change. EVs have almost zero maintenance.

    But what I miss the most is letting people drive it and seeing how excited they got. And the best, taking kids for a ride in it. Taking my kid to school in it and him showing it off to his friends.

    People I haven’t seen for a while still ask me, “hows that electric car of your running?” It was a dream too good to be true. We just weren’t ALLOWED to have cars like that.

  • Anonymous

    Big oil and politics, these established industries and the money that is generated are the reason why we do not have more electric & fuel efficient cars. Plain & simple. The technology is there and the means are there to do so. Invest in yourself, because your government and big business will not unless there is something in it for them.

  • Anonymous

    It’s funny that GM that already killed the electric car (EV1) ten years ago is now trying to draw all this attention to themselves over a car that they have yet to build and sell to the public.
    Meanwhile you have Toyota that has sold over 1 million hybrids that sip fuel and release almost no pollution and Honda that is the most fuel efficient car company in the USA quietly going about their business building these reliable and efficient cars.
    I think GM is starting to turn around their company but give me a break and stop trying to act like you are the leader in the fuel efficiency war!

  • geisemann

    Toyota is very anti American and the only thing green about Toyota is American Money going to Japan.

    Its not where the cars are made its where the projits come from. The high end jobs in engineering and finance are all lost and you are making your sons and daughters not have a future.

    Recently a toytoa exec said this and thats why I will NEVER buy a Toyota.

    “January 25th, 2008 at 11:32 am

    I am on a JAL plane now and will never want to return the Used States of Ameritrash, and will work very hard to defeat Detroit, you guys may not know that our Japanese cars are also defeating GM in china now, Toyota and Honda are much more profitable per vehicle in China that GM. One time Ford complained that Toyota withhold technique to them, but Toyota and their affiliates did sell things to the USA, for only one reason, to avoid backlash. GM/Ford are shameless, you may not know this: When toyota wanted to learn to Ford in 1955, Ford was so arrogant, and now Ford is begging us to teach them, what a crappy company

  • Ethomsom

    Proof? We know you hate Toyota (based on you previously re-resurrecting that sh!tty college-paper article), now where can I find proof that a Toyota exec said this?

  • JBarnes59

    How about pulling a generator. turning of the tires recharge the batteries as you go.

  • Questioning GM

    So I’d like to ask the company who killed the EV1 for whatever reason (bribes from OPEC or whatever) why it is that several companies with a thousandth of their funding are running full bore to release vehicles like the XH but the Volt still isn’t sitting in the showroom down the street?

    I guess I’ll buy into the Volt when I see it and even then it will have to have a good track record for me to believe it’s not a half hearted attempt to make a product so bad it will be abandoned and scar the reputation of vehicles that work like the Honda and Toyota hybrids.

  • Degenerator

    I’ve seen a number of comments about adding generators of various types to electric or hybrid cars. Not sure which, but I recall that some of the hybrids do employ a generator-braking system of sorts… when running on the gas powered engine, the motors were set up to engage to limit acceleration while coasting downhill and to assist in braking. The resultant electricity generated was applied to the batteries. Here, we are taking the forward momentum of the vehicle and converting it into electricity by applying resistance of a generator rather than simply converting it into heat with the application of the brakes.

    But think for a second about the basic physics- you can’t drag a generator and produce enough power to fuel the motor. Basic law of the universe! The conversion of energy from one form to another results in some loss in the process. Converting electricity to kinetic, then back to electric equals less electricity than you started with, and some heat that serves no usefull purpose half of the year. The amount of energy consumed is greater than that which is generated…

  • mysterymeat

    I don’t think GM initially ever intended to build the Volt. It was an element of a marketing campaign to build the old company some green credentials without actually changing its lineup. Somehow, though, it appears that the public got so excited that it’s not calling GM’s bluff and they figured out some time last year that they’re actually going to have to build the sucker. Talk about a product being market driven !!! Anyway, whether the Volt itself gets built is not key. What matters is that GM is getting a crash course in how to build a real green tech car right now. That’s going to be good for them in the long run. As for us the newly energy concerned mainstream consumers, there will be many more choices than just GM. See the Auto X Prize here: http://auto.xprize.org/

  • Norm Conwill

    I have two comments to offer on the battery situation that threatens the availability of the Volt.

    1. In 1993 I was VP Marketing for a small Atlanta company – Electronic Power Technology Inc.
    We introduced a new battery charging technique that extended battery life – for ANY battery – including Lithium Ion.
    The charging process was not only safe, but enabled us to recharge EV’s within 15 to 20 minutes.
    We introduced this technology to certain parties in GM who were high enough in management to make positive decisions to affect the company’s future product choices.
    As you can guess – we couldn’t get anybody’s real attention.

    2. Our technology also solved the “memory effect” problem of the Nickel Cadmium battery, rendering it a safe, viable, lightweight, and much more economic choice for EV usage.

    So, as far back as about 15 years ago, the EV, and a hybrid version of the EV, was realistically, economically, and technically a reality for our country.
    Sometimes the actual history of what has happened in this country during the last couple of decades, makes me somewhat ashamed to be a citizen of the world’s “technology leader” !!

  • Lee Roach

    Anybody out there remember the Vega?
    GM has a long reputation of rushing products to market so that
    the public can participate in the refining process.
    Their so-called engineering is largely hype, and it appears that
    this arrogance is still very much in existence.
    If the Volt ever does make it to market I suspect that the early
    buyers will experience immediate remorse.

  • VivaDnA

    Three corporate signs that indicate ultimate failure:

    1. CEO’s bonus increases as workers are being laid off and market share is dropping.

    2. Can’t produce product that doesn’t turn a profit in less than 2 to 3 quarters.

    3. Can’t produce high quality product to satisfy consumers for long term profit. (see #2)

  • VivaDnA

    I hear you Norm! It is shameful. The Teslas and Fiskers are the true patriots of this country. What GM, Ford, and Chrysler are I can’t say. But they are somewhat predictalbe if you just follow the money and you don’t follow it for more than a few months!

  • VivaDnA

    In 1976 I bought an “American” car because it was the right thing to do. I was rewarded with a crapy car that broke down a lot and became valueless in a matter of a few years. I vowed never to buy American again, but in 1982 I did because I thought that maybe GM was starting to turn things around and I wanted to give the general a second chance. This time it was different in that I was rewarded with a TOTAL DISASTER! Do I have faith that GM will produce the Volt, or anything of true value? What do you think?

  • nature boy

    To Norm Conwill, I hear ya buddy. They have been supressing good technology for ever. It`s all about the money. And it won`t stop until we do away with the current monitary system. Let`s face it, this country was built on greed. No, don`t do whats right for the people – we can`t make a buck that way. It`s all about that profit. Can`t be happy just making a living – got to make gazillions! Ya, i used to buy american also, but i got tired of bending over for those corp exec`s. I would like to see them get a contious and some morales. If and when they do, i`ll buy their product again. And if they don`t, i hope they choke on thier own vomit. This ship is going down big time. We need to make serious changes to the way things are done in this country. I pray we will, I fear we won`t. We`re too busy chasing the buck to see it coming.

  • Excelsior

    Suspect #4: environmentalists. I love the naivete that says the Volt gets its energy from a “common household outlet”. It does no such thing; if it’s charged from an outlet, it gets its energy from coal,
    natural gas, or nooooclear energy. While there is an advantage to
    centralized generation (pollution controls are more practical), it’s
    offset by transmission and translation losses; by how much I don’t
    know. So the same folks pushing for the Volt are the same ones
    pushing against new power plants.

  • RF

    Peak Oil is Bu$$Sh$t
    The U.S. knows that there is tons of oil left.
    Russia is swimming in it as is South America.
    Even the U.S. has crazy amounts left.
    Should we stop using it- absolutely!
    Is the technology in place for 40 mile electric vehicles-YES!
    Do I want one-YESTERDAY!
    Will I see mass use of electric vehicle technology in my lifetime-DOUBTFUL!
    Unless the Robber Barons of the oil world can make billions off of it they will kill it thru political leverage. We have had decades to develop this technology and where are we? Exactly!
    Who is to blame? Try our current crop of egocentric, power crazed,
    OPEC whipped, (P-whipped), politicians and those in power before them!

  • Chevy Volt Guy

    I agree that OPEC will do whatever they can to stifle hybrid and fuel cell technologies moving forward. They would be only too happy to have us all drivign 57 Chevy’s getting 10 MPG while they turn Dubai into the next NYC.

    It is absolutely disgusting how far behind we are on alternate technologies and the Volt represents a great vision toward the future.

    To learn more about the Volt, check out
    http://www.chevy-volt.net
    It has videos, engine specs and up to date news and views of the 2010 Volt

  • Tagamet

    **IF** that was true, why not trot that mysterious technology out today? Or anytime in the last decade for that matter.

  • Tagamet

    That remark was for Norm Cromwell.
    The Volt IS going to happen and it IS going to be a game changer. Given GM’s history of PR nightmares, they either do this or they shall forever be in the technological dust. I really don’t think that they have any other intent than to make this happen.

  • Donald Sr.

    So much bull! I own a TXU (Local Power Company) ‘ALL ELECTRIC’ utility truck built in 1973. I drive this vehicle almost every day as a form of local transportation and out of town up to 15 (30 miles round trip) or so miles. It contains 18 Golf Cart batteries ($840.00. When viewing the Amperage Gauge and using the foot pedal easy so the Amperage doesn’t exceed 200 amps at start off and around 100 plus at driving speed it will go for around 50 miles before needing a charge. It doesn’t just stop at 50 miles but just goes slower so one can reach an electric plug. It has it’s own charger and ‘Power Meter’ so one can charge almost any place and pay the owner of the power plug the amount of electricity used. Ho Hum, for the BULL ABOUT NOT HAVING THE RANGE OF 40 OR MORE MILES. I bought this vehicle 12 years ago and have bought ONE (1) set of batteries. It needs another set now……. The vehicle weighs 4600 pounds with batteries installed. My Honda Odyssey, Turing Model, weighs 4600 pounds also. And have never bought even fumes of gasoline for the all electric vehicle.

  • Heather

    I hope for GM’s sake that they REALLY do release the Volt in 2010.

    My dad used to believe heavily in the need to buy American-made cars. Then he had a series of bad experiences at a dealership when his car broke down and will never buy American again.
    He said their transparent need for immediate profit (as opposed to a balance between aspiring for profit as well as for the well being of customers) made him lose faith. He started to feel like just a dollar sign to them.

    Proof of this he says is their unwillingness to make a damn car the Japanese have been making for years not because they’re dim, but because they won’t make AS MUCH money, and it’s all about MORE money.

    I see where he’s coming from, but I’m not sure I’m ready to throw in the towel on them yet.

    If GM really pulls this off by 2010, then they’re definitely doing something right! I started saving last year for a new car and by 2010 I’ll have enough to buy one outright – and there’s no doubt in my mind that it WILL BE ELECTRIC – even if I have to wait. The point is: yeah, I want to support North American industry, but if I have to wait too long for the car I want in an American model, I’ll simply buy Japanese – and then I really will lose my faith in the ability of American car companies … just like my father did.

  • bill

    If it was left up to GM none of use will ever have an electric car. there in bed with the oil companys and they deserve everything they get. our opinion don’t matter to them, that’s why i buy TOYOTA…. and for the EV-95 battery lie… go ”F” yourself GM!!! you lost a customer FOR LIFE!!!

  • Charlie Reust

    Getter done!

    I want an electrick car like the volt. I just went on the grid with my solar panes January 2009 and I want a car I can plug in.
    My wife still has her Saturn and I can’t talk her into getting a newer car, so it’s up to me.
    This Volt would work good for me as I have a 17 mile one way commute from Claremont to Monrovia,CA.
    Let’s see GM put solar panels on the roof, hood and trunk lid so I can charge up in the parking lot or while I’m in the golf course parking lot.

    MY Mom and little brother retired from GM so I need to pay it back. I do need to get the price down so that it is truly a savings. Going green is good but let’s keep some green in my pocket too.

  • Scott

    GM owned the Nickel Metal Hydride batteries because they bought them from Ovshinky and his company. They were fools in the first place for using Panasonic lead acid, even though they owned the NiMH patents and the stock of the Ovonic battery company.

    They waited until the second generation of cars to roll out the technology. Let us not forget that Toyota had their Rav4 that used the same batteries and when new could achieve a range of about 140 miles. Some of those cars are still around today and have gone for more than 100,000 miles and still have a range or 80 to 100 miles–even after about 10 years latter.

    GM simply dropped the ball, because they thought that they could make money with the Hummer brand. And did until gas prices were manipulated up by Goldman Sachs. GM will simply not take their head out of their ass. Who killed the electric car move any one?
    Preview it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsJAlrYjGz8 Take the time and watch that movie please, there is a lot of content in it and is worth the money to buy on Amazon….