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		<title>By: gardening</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/volt-wins-alternative-fuel-award-uk-52300/#comment-40535</link>
		<dc:creator>gardening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I &#1281;o trust all the id&#1077;as you&#039;ve introduced to your post. They are really convincing and can certainly work. Nonetheless, the posts are very brief for starters. May just you please prolong them a bit from subsequent time? Thanks for the post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I &#1281;o trust all the id&#1077;as you&#8217;ve introduced to your post. They are really convincing and can certainly work. Nonetheless, the posts are very brief for starters. May just you please prolong them a bit from subsequent time? Thanks for the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Van</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/volt-wins-alternative-fuel-award-uk-52300/#comment-40534</link>
		<dc:creator>Van</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quote without comment:&lt;br /&gt;
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&quot;At that Maryland dealer, the collective incentive money went towards a massive $5,000 discount off the MSRP, resulting in a sticker price somewhere in the mid $20,000 after state and federal tax credits were applied.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote without comment:</p>
<p>&#8220;At that Maryland dealer, the collective incentive money went towards a massive $5,000 discount off the MSRP, resulting in a sticker price somewhere in the mid $20,000 after state and federal tax credits were applied.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Van</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/volt-wins-alternative-fuel-award-uk-52300/#comment-40533</link>
		<dc:creator>Van</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mindless twits never stop digging when they are stuck in muck.&lt;br /&gt;
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The article included the zero and low interest loans as part of the $10,000 dollar incentive.  &lt;br /&gt;
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There are zero and low interest loans available today in Chevy adds.  &lt;br /&gt;
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And up to $5000 discounts are also found&lt;br /&gt;
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MMF has been shown to make false claims, i.e. Volt has no clutches, and his behavior on this thread reinforces that conclusion.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mindless twits never stop digging when they are stuck in muck.</p>
<p>The article included the zero and low interest loans as part of the $10,000 dollar incentive.  </p>
<p>There are zero and low interest loans available today in Chevy adds.  </p>
<p>And up to $5000 discounts are also found</p>
<p>MMF has been shown to make false claims, i.e. Volt has no clutches, and his behavior on this thread reinforces that conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Modern Marvel Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Modern Marvel Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Van wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
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&quot;1) MSRP lowered by $1000, i.e. 2011 MSRP 41,000, 2012 MSRP 39,995.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Dealer discounts of up to $5000&lt;br /&gt;
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3) zero interest loan reduce price by up to $4000&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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So, now you include the 0% as discount?  &lt;br /&gt;
First of all, 0% ended by July and it was only on 2012 models which doesn&#039;t apply to August sales.&lt;br /&gt;
Secondly, It is currently 0.9%.  Many cars, including Ford and Toyota are offering that as well.&lt;br /&gt;
Thirdly, the dealer discount of $5k is  NO WHERE to be found by the Truecar.com which is the source of that STUPID AP article.  Even by that article&#039;s own admission, it said the &quot;discount of up to $10k&quot; was in the lease, NOT sales.&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe next time you should read the source of your article instead of just quoting some titles when you have NO FREAKING clue on what you are talking about...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Van wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;1) MSRP lowered by $1000, i.e. 2011 MSRP 41,000, 2012 MSRP 39,995.</p>
<p>2) Dealer discounts of up to $5000</p>
<p>3) zero interest loan reduce price by up to $4000<br />
&#8220;</p>
<p>So, now you include the 0% as discount?  <br />
First of all, 0% ended by July and it was only on 2012 models which doesn&#8217;t apply to August sales.<br />
Secondly, It is currently 0.9%.  Many cars, including Ford and Toyota are offering that as well.<br />
Thirdly, the dealer discount of $5k is  NO WHERE to be found by the Truecar.com which is the source of that STUPID AP article.  Even by that article&#8217;s own admission, it said the &#8220;discount of up to $10k&#8221; was in the lease, NOT sales.</p>
<p>Maybe next time you should read the source of your article instead of just quoting some titles when you have NO FREAKING clue on what you are talking about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Van</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/volt-wins-alternative-fuel-award-uk-52300/#comment-40531</link>
		<dc:creator>Van</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 18:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lets see:&lt;br /&gt;
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I was talking sales, not leases.&lt;br /&gt;
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How was the Volt discounted.&lt;br /&gt;
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1)  MSRP lowered by $1000, i.e. 2011 MSRP 41,000, 2012 MSRP 39,995.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) Dealer discounts of up to $5000&lt;br /&gt;
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3) zero interest loan reduce price by up to $4000 &lt;br /&gt;
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Or a total of $10,000 excluding the tax rebate.&lt;br /&gt;
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Therefore what I posted was spot on and was based on the AP story.  &lt;br /&gt;
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&quot;Today, on the Drudge Report, I saw an article that claimed the recent strong sales of the Volt was driven by dealer discounts of about $10,000 off the MSRP. If you couple that with the $7500 tax break, the price falls to less than $25,000. Now they should sell briskly at that price!!!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets see:</p>
<p>I was talking sales, not leases.</p>
<p>How was the Volt discounted.</p>
<p>1)  MSRP lowered by $1000, i.e. 2011 MSRP 41,000, 2012 MSRP 39,995.</p>
<p>2) Dealer discounts of up to $5000</p>
<p>3) zero interest loan reduce price by up to $4000 </p>
<p>Or a total of $10,000 excluding the tax rebate.</p>
<p>Therefore what I posted was spot on and was based on the AP story.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Today, on the Drudge Report, I saw an article that claimed the recent strong sales of the Volt was driven by dealer discounts of about $10,000 off the MSRP. If you couple that with the $7500 tax break, the price falls to less than $25,000. Now they should sell briskly at that price!!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Modern Marvel Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/volt-wins-alternative-fuel-award-uk-52300/#comment-40530</link>
		<dc:creator>Modern Marvel Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 08:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Van (who happens to be someone who can&#039;t read their own article).&lt;br /&gt;
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&quot;Only a mindless twit would claim to be so stupid they cannot goggle drudge and click on the article.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Only an &quot;mindless twit&quot; who lacks GED would read only the first paragraph without reading the entire article.&lt;br /&gt;
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First of all, Drudge report doesn&#039;t have any of their own article.  They repost their other people&#039;s crap.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Secondly, the real article is here on Washington times.  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/23/chevrolets-volt-selling-but-not-at-sticker-price/&lt;br /&gt;
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Now if you had read the article, you would see that they &quot;reposted&quot; their &quot;quote&quot; from truecar.com.  Now if you actually had done some reading and real work, you would know that the $10k discount is mostly in the form of &quot;Leasing&quot;.  And if you had gone to true car.com you would see the actual discount is in the range of $2k-$5k.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now let me educate you about leasing and how the $10k comes about.  We also know that EV buyers get the $7,500 tax credits.  However, if a vehicle is leased, then the leasing company gets the  $7.5k, NOT buyers.  So, the discounted leasing price is only about $2.5k.  NOT like your lie which said: &quot;I saw an article that claimed the recent strong sales of the Volt was driven by dealer discounts of about $10,000 off the MSRP. If you couple that with the $7500 tax break, the price falls to less than $25,000.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe you should do some research and homework before you post like a &quot;mindless twit&quot; according to yourself.  Finish your GED instead of posting unscientific comments here would help your case too...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Van (who happens to be someone who can&#8217;t read their own article).</p>
<p>&#8220;Only a mindless twit would claim to be so stupid they cannot goggle drudge and click on the article.&#8221;</p>
<p>Only an &#8220;mindless twit&#8221; who lacks GED would read only the first paragraph without reading the entire article.</p>
<p>First of all, Drudge report doesn&#8217;t have any of their own article.  They repost their other people&#8217;s crap.  </p>
<p>Secondly, the real article is here on Washington times.  <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/23/chevrolets-volt-selling-but-not-at-sticker-price/" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/23/chevrolets-volt-selling-but-not-at-sticker-price/</a></p>
<p>Now if you had read the article, you would see that they &#8220;reposted&#8221; their &#8220;quote&#8221; from truecar.com.  Now if you actually had done some reading and real work, you would know that the $10k discount is mostly in the form of &#8220;Leasing&#8221;.  And if you had gone to true car.com you would see the actual discount is in the range of $2k-$5k.</p>
<p>Now let me educate you about leasing and how the $10k comes about.  We also know that EV buyers get the $7,500 tax credits.  However, if a vehicle is leased, then the leasing company gets the  $7.5k, NOT buyers.  So, the discounted leasing price is only about $2.5k.  NOT like your lie which said: &#8220;I saw an article that claimed the recent strong sales of the Volt was driven by dealer discounts of about $10,000 off the MSRP. If you couple that with the $7500 tax break, the price falls to less than $25,000.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe you should do some research and homework before you post like a &#8220;mindless twit&#8221; according to yourself.  Finish your GED instead of posting unscientific comments here would help your case too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Van</title>
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		<dc:creator>Van</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 19:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ MMF, your personal comments questioning the qualifications and character of others bespeaks an empty suit.  Only a mindless twit would claim to be so stupid they cannot goggle drudge and click on the article.  LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ MMF, your personal comments questioning the qualifications and character of others bespeaks an empty suit.  Only a mindless twit would claim to be so stupid they cannot goggle drudge and click on the article.  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Modern Marvel Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/volt-wins-alternative-fuel-award-uk-52300/#comment-40528</link>
		<dc:creator>Modern Marvel Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 19:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Anonymous&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, PIP is a good car.  But regular Prius is a &quot;better&quot; car.  What is the point of the PIP if you actually care about the MPG instead of the electric component?&lt;br /&gt;
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Pip is doing well b/c its &quot;HOV stickers&quot; espcially in CA.  Volt didn&#039;t take off b/c of that.  In fact, Volt has FAR HIGHER sales in CA than PIP yet, according to the CA DMV, Pip has &quot;claimed&quot; more HOV stickers than the Volt.  So, it is clearly that people in CA buy the PIP for carpool sticker (the cheap one available for HOV sticker).&lt;br /&gt;
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I personally care about performance.  If you look around, almost 90% of the &quot;cars&quot; on the road carry less than 4 people at any given time.  So, why worry about the 5-10% of the time? when performance such as acceleration, handling and braking are used just about every time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, PIP is rated 4 stars in safety where Volt is 5 star rated (regular Prius is 5 star rated).  Somehow Toyota managed to fail the crash test by losing 1 star due to its increased weight in PIP.  Sounds like a scam to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anonymous</p>
<p>Well, PIP is a good car.  But regular Prius is a &#8220;better&#8221; car.  What is the point of the PIP if you actually care about the MPG instead of the electric component?</p>
<p>Pip is doing well b/c its &#8220;HOV stickers&#8221; espcially in CA.  Volt didn&#8217;t take off b/c of that.  In fact, Volt has FAR HIGHER sales in CA than PIP yet, according to the CA DMV, Pip has &#8220;claimed&#8221; more HOV stickers than the Volt.  So, it is clearly that people in CA buy the PIP for carpool sticker (the cheap one available for HOV sticker).</p>
<p>I personally care about performance.  If you look around, almost 90% of the &#8220;cars&#8221; on the road carry less than 4 people at any given time.  So, why worry about the 5-10% of the time? when performance such as acceleration, handling and braking are used just about every time.</p>
<p>Also, PIP is rated 4 stars in safety where Volt is 5 star rated (regular Prius is 5 star rated).  Somehow Toyota managed to fail the crash test by losing 1 star due to its increased weight in PIP.  Sounds like a scam to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Modern Marvel Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Modern Marvel Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Van (stop your Volt hate)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wrote: &quot;Today, on the Drudge Report, I saw an article that claimed the recent strong sales of the Volt was driven by dealer discounts of about $10,000 off the MSRP&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Show the link please.&lt;br /&gt;
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The &quot;most&quot; discount that I have heard is the $5k discount by dealer.  $10k is combined with the current tax credits.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please don&#039;t make up lies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Van (stop your Volt hate)</p>
<p>Wrote: &#8220;Today, on the Drudge Report, I saw an article that claimed the recent strong sales of the Volt was driven by dealer discounts of about $10,000 off the MSRP&#8221;</p>
<p>Show the link please.</p>
<p>The &#8220;most&#8221; discount that I have heard is the $5k discount by dealer.  $10k is combined with the current tax credits.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t make up lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Van</title>
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		<dc:creator>Van</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the parade of awards has grown a tad tedious. &lt;br /&gt;
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Today, on the Drudge Report, I saw an article that claimed the recent strong sales of the Volt was driven by dealer discounts of about $10,000 off the MSRP.  If you couple that with the $7500 tax break, the price falls to less than $25,000.  Now they should sell briskly at that price!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the parade of awards has grown a tad tedious. </p>
<p>Today, on the Drudge Report, I saw an article that claimed the recent strong sales of the Volt was driven by dealer discounts of about $10,000 off the MSRP.  If you couple that with the $7500 tax break, the price falls to less than $25,000.  Now they should sell briskly at that price!!!</p>
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