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		<title>By: cvhgfj</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 01:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be more than happy to seek out this internet-site.I wanted to thanks in your time for this glorious read!! I positively enjoying each little bit of it and I have you bookmarked to check out new stuff you weblog post.<a href="http://www.exambible.com/CISA-exam/">CISA</a>//<a href="http://www.exambible.com/CISM-exam/">CISM</a>//<a href="http://www.exambible.com/CAP-exam/">CAP</a>//<a href="http://www.exambible.com/CISSP-ISSAP-exam/">CISSP-ISSAP</a>//<a href="http://www.exambible.com/CISSP-ISSEP-exam/">CISSP-ISSEP</a>//<a href="http://www.exambible.com/CISSP-ISSMP-exam/">CISSP-ISSMP</a></p>
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		<title>By: vtimm</title>
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		<dc:creator>vtimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love my &#039;07 Prius and am looking forward to seeing the upcoming models released at the Detroit show as I want to purchase another Prius within the next two years. It is simply a joy to drive and the gas mileage is fabulous. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love my &#8217;07 Prius and am looking forward to seeing the upcoming models released at the Detroit show as I want to purchase another Prius within the next two years. It is simply a joy to drive and the gas mileage is fabulous. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Toyota made that projection before FORD announced it&#039;s new electrification plan: &lt;br /&gt;
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1. C-MAX Hybrid (1.6 EcoBoost with more room, higher EV range and speed, and higher mpg than Prius)&lt;br /&gt;
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2. C-MAX Energi Plugin Hybrid (More room, higher mpg, longer on EV, faster on EV, longer range than Prius and Volt)&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Focus Electric (Nicer than anything out there, faster charge, cheaper 240 charger and lower vehicle cost than the Leaf)&lt;br /&gt;
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And the upcoming:&lt;br /&gt;
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4. The &#039;hinted&#039; and &#039;avoided&#039; conversation about the Focus Hybrid Sedan (with their new 1.6 EcoBoost engine alone that gets combined 44mpg in the bigger Mondeo) which should get about 60-70 mpg as a hybrid.  This will be the replacement for the Fusion &#039;Hybrid&#039; that will end with the 2011 model.  They are already doing a heavy marketing of the current Fusion, and not marketing the Fusion Hybrid at all, as if it does not exist.  All electrified Ford cars will be on the C Platform and manufactured out of the new Michigan plant. I see that announcement coming in Feb or March.  &lt;br /&gt;
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5. The Fiesta with the new 1.6 EcoBoost will be available for mileage in the 50s, and that&#039;s without the cost of a hybrid.  This should be announced first, as they have already started marketing the new high mileage 1.6 EcoBoost engine on the Ford website.  &lt;br /&gt;
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And with all these cars selling world wide, with Fords focus on AFFORDABLE electrified and high mileage vehicles to benefit from the economy of scale, there is no doubt that Ford will be the clear leader before 2020.&lt;br /&gt;
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GO FORD     GO USA!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Toyota made that projection before FORD announced it&#8217;s new electrification plan: </p>
<p>1. C-MAX Hybrid (1.6 EcoBoost with more room, higher EV range and speed, and higher mpg than Prius)</p>
<p>2. C-MAX Energi Plugin Hybrid (More room, higher mpg, longer on EV, faster on EV, longer range than Prius and Volt)</p>
<p>3. Focus Electric (Nicer than anything out there, faster charge, cheaper 240 charger and lower vehicle cost than the Leaf)</p>
<p>And the upcoming:</p>
<p>4. The &#8216;hinted&#8217; and &#8216;avoided&#8217; conversation about the Focus Hybrid Sedan (with their new 1.6 EcoBoost engine alone that gets combined 44mpg in the bigger Mondeo) which should get about 60-70 mpg as a hybrid.  This will be the replacement for the Fusion &#8216;Hybrid&#8217; that will end with the 2011 model.  They are already doing a heavy marketing of the current Fusion, and not marketing the Fusion Hybrid at all, as if it does not exist.  All electrified Ford cars will be on the C Platform and manufactured out of the new Michigan plant. I see that announcement coming in Feb or March.  </p>
<p>5. The Fiesta with the new 1.6 EcoBoost will be available for mileage in the 50s, and that&#8217;s without the cost of a hybrid.  This should be announced first, as they have already started marketing the new high mileage 1.6 EcoBoost engine on the Ford website.  </p>
<p>And with all these cars selling world wide, with Fords focus on AFFORDABLE electrified and high mileage vehicles to benefit from the economy of scale, there is no doubt that Ford will be the clear leader before 2020.</p>
<p>GO FORD     GO USA!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zwordsman says:&lt;br /&gt;
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&quot;In fact, I willing to gamble that an actuary compiled the data and determined that it would be more cost effective to allow a known defective product to be sold to consumers and remedy the malady after the vehicle had been sold. Where is the hype in that? &quot;&lt;br /&gt;
_______________&lt;br /&gt;
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Whether it is deemed a &quot;defect&quot; or not, I&#039;d argue trading cost vs risk is true in all products. If risks vs cost isn&#039;t a factor, we would all be driving tanks or something ridiculous to reduce all risks close to zero. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Furthermore, designing a product to zero risk is very unlikely nor practical. I think that concept has to be a balanced and within reason. The key word here is &quot;reasonable&quot;. At some point the cost will increase exponentially as a product is designed to eliminate risks. For example, manufactures knows there is a risk of planes falling from the sky and killing vehicle occupants... it is an unlikely scenario but a risk nevertheless. Is it a defect? Probably not because people do not expect the vehicle to function as such. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the case of the prius floor mat recall, it is certainly reasonable to expect the mat not to be a hindrance to vehicle control. In such case I may call this a defect depending on circumstances that  triggered this (failed clip is probably a defect) and how often this occurs. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some may argue it is reasonable to expect people should have sufficient skills to control their vehicles in an event like this. And what happens when a part fails under wear and tear? Is it reasonable to assume drivers will be maintaining critical parts such as brakes or adjust their mat as it slides out of position? I guess my point is sometimes things are not as black and white as it seems. Most of the time manufactures and consumers both have to take on responsibilities to deal with the risks. Often times when it is not reasonable for the consumers to know or deal with the critical risks (e.g. mat clip breaking while driving and immediately causing mat to jam gas control), this is where the term &quot;defect&quot; may be used and manufactures will take on most of the blame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zwordsman says:</p>
<p>&#8220;In fact, I willing to gamble that an actuary compiled the data and determined that it would be more cost effective to allow a known defective product to be sold to consumers and remedy the malady after the vehicle had been sold. Where is the hype in that? &#8220;<br />
_______________</p>
<p>Whether it is deemed a &#8220;defect&#8221; or not, I&#8217;d argue trading cost vs risk is true in all products. If risks vs cost isn&#8217;t a factor, we would all be driving tanks or something ridiculous to reduce all risks close to zero. </p>
<p>Furthermore, designing a product to zero risk is very unlikely nor practical. I think that concept has to be a balanced and within reason. The key word here is &#8220;reasonable&#8221;. At some point the cost will increase exponentially as a product is designed to eliminate risks. For example, manufactures knows there is a risk of planes falling from the sky and killing vehicle occupants&#8230; it is an unlikely scenario but a risk nevertheless. Is it a defect? Probably not because people do not expect the vehicle to function as such. </p>
<p>In the case of the prius floor mat recall, it is certainly reasonable to expect the mat not to be a hindrance to vehicle control. In such case I may call this a defect depending on circumstances that  triggered this (failed clip is probably a defect) and how often this occurs. </p>
<p>Some may argue it is reasonable to expect people should have sufficient skills to control their vehicles in an event like this. And what happens when a part fails under wear and tear? Is it reasonable to assume drivers will be maintaining critical parts such as brakes or adjust their mat as it slides out of position? I guess my point is sometimes things are not as black and white as it seems. Most of the time manufactures and consumers both have to take on responsibilities to deal with the risks. Often times when it is not reasonable for the consumers to know or deal with the critical risks (e.g. mat clip breaking while driving and immediately causing mat to jam gas control), this is where the term &#8220;defect&#8221; may be used and manufactures will take on most of the blame.</p>
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		<title>By: Zwordsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zwordsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 07:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regardless of the sensationalism and the opportunity for the press to sell papers and generate mass coverage by exploiting the tragic death of automotive consumers, the fact remains, people died as a result of their negligence. In fact, I willing to gamble that an actuary compiled the data and determined that it would be more cost effective to allow a known defective product to be sold to consumers and remedy the malady after the vehicle had been sold.  Where is the hype in that? Corporate profits by any means necessary! You want hype? H1N1 and the now the side effects people are experiencing after being administered an unproven and marginally test product. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of the sensationalism and the opportunity for the press to sell papers and generate mass coverage by exploiting the tragic death of automotive consumers, the fact remains, people died as a result of their negligence. In fact, I willing to gamble that an actuary compiled the data and determined that it would be more cost effective to allow a known defective product to be sold to consumers and remedy the malady after the vehicle had been sold.  Where is the hype in that? Corporate profits by any means necessary! You want hype? H1N1 and the now the side effects people are experiencing after being administered an unproven and marginally test product. </p>
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		<title>By: Capt. Concernicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capt. Concernicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 02:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ricky Bobby--&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your sensationalized news report.  Are you a reporter for Fox News by any chance?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Lad--&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Prius is older technology yet somehow it gets the best fuel economy out of all the cars out there.  I find that very interesting.&lt;br /&gt;
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Dom--&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I own a 2007 Prius.  Paid $25K for it and it&#039;s almost fully loaded.  Now that the weather is colder in the upper midwest I am currently AVERAGING 46.2 mpg.  That&#039;s cty/hwy mileage.  Not APPROACHING 40 mpg, which is the hwy mileage you are talking about for those cars.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ricky Bobby&#8211;</p>
<p>Thanks for your sensationalized news report.  Are you a reporter for Fox News by any chance?</p>
<p>Lad&#8211;</p>
<p>Prius is older technology yet somehow it gets the best fuel economy out of all the cars out there.  I find that very interesting.</p>
<p>Dom&#8211;</p>
<p>I own a 2007 Prius.  Paid $25K for it and it&#8217;s almost fully loaded.  Now that the weather is colder in the upper midwest I am currently AVERAGING 46.2 mpg.  That&#8217;s cty/hwy mileage.  Not APPROACHING 40 mpg, which is the hwy mileage you are talking about for those cars.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 20:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Cruze 1.8 A6 22/35/27&lt;br /&gt;
1.4 A6 24/36/28&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow. The current Civic which was first debuted in 2005 is rated 25/36 with &#039;only&#039; a five-speed auto.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cruze 1.8 A6 22/35/27<br />
1.4 A6 24/36/28&#8243;</p>
<p>Wow. The current Civic which was first debuted in 2005 is rated 25/36 with &#8216;only&#8217; a five-speed auto.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 20:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Cruze 1.8 A6 22/35/27&lt;br /&gt;
1.4 A6 24/36/28 &quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow. Even the current Civic that was first debuted in 2005 is rated 25/36 with &#039;only&#039; a 5 spd auto.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cruze 1.8 A6 22/35/27<br />
1.4 A6 24/36/28 &#8220;</p>
<p>Wow. Even the current Civic that was first debuted in 2005 is rated 25/36 with &#8216;only&#8217; a 5 spd auto.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 16:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s rather sad to see that some would still want to use the hwy mileage est. to &#039;pretend&#039; the vehicle(s) is/are fuel efficient. I think, didn&#039;t GM tried to fool us in its ad in similar fashion?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Let&#039;s look at some facts:&lt;br /&gt;
(EPA rating city/ hwy/ combined - all from Fueleconomy.gov except Elantra which is still not available from that site)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elantra 29/40/33 &lt;br /&gt;
Fiesta A6 (non SFE)29/38/33 &lt;br /&gt;
SFE 29/40/33 &lt;br /&gt;
Cruze 1.8 A6 22/35/27 &lt;br /&gt;
1.4 A6 24/36/28 &lt;br /&gt;
Jetta 2.0 A6 30/42/34  &lt;br /&gt;
2.5 A6 24/31/27&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- The myth that Cruze is fuel &#039;efficient&#039; is busted;&lt;br /&gt;
- a fuel efficient Jetta may be only applicable to the &#039;decade-old&#039; 2.slow, and from my previous experience, it&#039;s competent but barely adequate 10 years later;&lt;br /&gt;
- Fiesta is a size too small relative to others, and it&#039;s a size too small for many (esp. those who need a &#039;real&#039; usable rear seat).&lt;br /&gt;
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How about Prius or Insight?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Prius 51/48/50 &lt;br /&gt;
Insight 40/43/41&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Every non-hybrid mentioned above is, at best, only about 2/3 as fuel efficient as Prius, though Prius may be a bit pricey. But the base model of Insight now starts from ~18k, and a better equipped one below 20k, which is quite competitive to those non-hybrids  above similarly equipped.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s rather sad to see that some would still want to use the hwy mileage est. to &#8216;pretend&#8217; the vehicle(s) is/are fuel efficient. I think, didn&#8217;t GM tried to fool us in its ad in similar fashion?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at some facts:<br />
(EPA rating city/ hwy/ combined &#8211; all from Fueleconomy.gov except Elantra which is still not available from that site)</p>
<p>Elantra 29/40/33 <br />
Fiesta A6 (non SFE)29/38/33 <br />
SFE 29/40/33 <br />
Cruze 1.8 A6 22/35/27 <br />
1.4 A6 24/36/28 <br />
Jetta 2.0 A6 30/42/34  <br />
2.5 A6 24/31/27</p>
<p>- The myth that Cruze is fuel &#8216;efficient&#8217; is busted;<br />
- a fuel efficient Jetta may be only applicable to the &#8216;decade-old&#8217; 2.slow, and from my previous experience, it&#8217;s competent but barely adequate 10 years later;<br />
- Fiesta is a size too small relative to others, and it&#8217;s a size too small for many (esp. those who need a &#8216;real&#8217; usable rear seat).</p>
<p>How about Prius or Insight?</p>
<p>Prius 51/48/50 <br />
Insight 40/43/41</p>
<p>Every non-hybrid mentioned above is, at best, only about 2/3 as fuel efficient as Prius, though Prius may be a bit pricey. But the base model of Insight now starts from ~18k, and a better equipped one below 20k, which is quite competitive to those non-hybrids  above similarly equipped.</p>
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		<title>By: Used Cars London Ontario</title>
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		<dc:creator>Used Cars London Ontario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;ll be interesting to see what sort of line they develop for the Prius. You&#039;d think that with the Camry Hybrid they wouldn&#039;t necessarily need to make a full line for the Prius, just modify their other products.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;ll be interesting to see what sort of line they develop for the Prius. You&#8217;d think that with the Camry Hybrid they wouldn&#8217;t necessarily need to make a full line for the Prius, just modify their other products.</p>
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