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		<title>By: qqRockyBeans</title>
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		<dc:creator>qqRockyBeans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HOLLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
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But Moving Cooler needs only one strategy: all we need to do is raise the gas tax (and I  know it has been mentioned before, including by me)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it should be phased-in like this:&lt;br /&gt;
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Gasoline/E10 (only 93+ octane would be sold)&lt;br /&gt;
Increase the tax by 1c per week over 2 years&lt;br /&gt;
Total would be $1.04 extra&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E85&lt;br /&gt;
Increase the tax by 1c every two weeks for 2 years&lt;br /&gt;
Total would e 52c extra&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Diesel, B5, and B20&lt;br /&gt;
Increase tax by 1c every other week for 3 years&lt;br /&gt;
Total would be 78c extra&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B50&lt;br /&gt;
Increase tax 1c every other week for 2 years&lt;br /&gt;
Total would be 52c extra&lt;br /&gt;
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B99&lt;br /&gt;
No tax increase&lt;br /&gt;
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Half to the feds&lt;br /&gt;
half to the state in which you purchased the gas&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, we can eliminate self-serve gas to create jobs&lt;br /&gt;
but keep self-serve diesel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOLLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>But Moving Cooler needs only one strategy: all we need to do is raise the gas tax (and I  know it has been mentioned before, including by me)</p>
<p>I think it should be phased-in like this:</p>
<p>Gasoline/E10 (only 93+ octane would be sold)<br />
Increase the tax by 1c per week over 2 years<br />
Total would be $1.04 extra</p>
<p>E85<br />
Increase the tax by 1c every two weeks for 2 years<br />
Total would e 52c extra</p>
<p>Diesel, B5, and B20<br />
Increase tax by 1c every other week for 3 years<br />
Total would be 78c extra</p>
<p>B50<br />
Increase tax 1c every other week for 2 years<br />
Total would be 52c extra</p>
<p>B99<br />
No tax increase</p>
<p>Half to the feds<br />
half to the state in which you purchased the gas</p>
<p>Also, we can eliminate self-serve gas to create jobs<br />
but keep self-serve diesel</p>
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		<title>By: David Roland</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I grow increasingly tired each day of people saying how far we are away from a future of cleaner energy. A clean energy economy is not going to take longer than 15-25 years if we can just put our minds to it and get it done. But if this bickering keeps going and nothing gets done it&#039;s just going to keep being talk and more talk while the problem doesn&#039;t get solved and we keep letting ourselves get screwed by OPEC. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grow increasingly tired each day of people saying how far we are away from a future of cleaner energy. A clean energy economy is not going to take longer than 15-25 years if we can just put our minds to it and get it done. But if this bickering keeps going and nothing gets done it&#8217;s just going to keep being talk and more talk while the problem doesn&#8217;t get solved and we keep letting ourselves get screwed by OPEC. </p>
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		<title>By: Lost Prius to wife</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lost Prius to wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Halo9x, greenhouse gases do not have a political party. For you to state so shows that you have not really looked into the data concerning global warming. And you are just taking someone else’s word as fact. I have never seen Al Gore’s film and do not really care what side he takes. Nor do I care what Pelosi, Reid and other politicians have to say either. Based on what I have found on global warming (arguments/data both for and against global warming), I find that global warming does exist (mankind’s percentage is still in debate) and I do care about what the politicians do about global warming. “Saying” and “doing” are two different things.&lt;br /&gt;
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Greenhouse gases such as nitrogen trifluoride, sulfur hexafluoride, hydrofluorocarbons and perfluorocarbons do not occur naturally. They are manmade gases and some have high global warming potential (GWP) even when only present in very small quantities. They have only occurred since the 1800’s. Carbon dioxide, which exists at the ~0.3% level in the atmosphere, affects ~50% of our global weather and global warming (note: this percentage changes to ~25% if one includes water vapor in with the greenhouse gases). The ices of Greenland and Antarctica have shown that the levels of carbon dioxide have remained relatively steady in at least the last 100,000 years until the 1800’s. Since the 1800’s, carbon dioxide has increased ~35% with no known natural events to cause those increases. Do you know something that has escaped the eyes of the 2000+ IPCC scientist, the tens of thousands of scientist in related fields, and the many, many millions of the scientist, news journalist, politicians, and others? Please be forthcoming with that information.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think Matt the Un-stupid (I hope...) is correct. “Taxes always discourage behavior while subsidies encourage behavior.” But it has to be a proper balance. Taxes always hurt the poorest people the most while subsidies will help the poorest people the most. Taxes and subsidies have less of an effect on the wealthy since the taxes and subsidies are a much smaller percentage of their wealth. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I also think Bob Guimarin’s idea of “battery exchange capable cars” is a good idea and has some business potential for the future. But Anonymous is right: a battery exchange infrastructure is 20-30 years away. It would have to be some sort of battery standards and designed replaceability, agreed upon by all the manufactures, before the concept can reach any acceptance.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Halo9x, greenhouse gases do not have a political party. For you to state so shows that you have not really looked into the data concerning global warming. And you are just taking someone else’s word as fact. I have never seen Al Gore’s film and do not really care what side he takes. Nor do I care what Pelosi, Reid and other politicians have to say either. Based on what I have found on global warming (arguments/data both for and against global warming), I find that global warming does exist (mankind’s percentage is still in debate) and I do care about what the politicians do about global warming. “Saying” and “doing” are two different things.</p>
<p>Greenhouse gases such as nitrogen trifluoride, sulfur hexafluoride, hydrofluorocarbons and perfluorocarbons do not occur naturally. They are manmade gases and some have high global warming potential (GWP) even when only present in very small quantities. They have only occurred since the 1800’s. Carbon dioxide, which exists at the ~0.3% level in the atmosphere, affects ~50% of our global weather and global warming (note: this percentage changes to ~25% if one includes water vapor in with the greenhouse gases). The ices of Greenland and Antarctica have shown that the levels of carbon dioxide have remained relatively steady in at least the last 100,000 years until the 1800’s. Since the 1800’s, carbon dioxide has increased ~35% with no known natural events to cause those increases. Do you know something that has escaped the eyes of the 2000+ IPCC scientist, the tens of thousands of scientist in related fields, and the many, many millions of the scientist, news journalist, politicians, and others? Please be forthcoming with that information.</p>
<p>I think Matt the Un-stupid (I hope&#8230;) is correct. “Taxes always discourage behavior while subsidies encourage behavior.” But it has to be a proper balance. Taxes always hurt the poorest people the most while subsidies will help the poorest people the most. Taxes and subsidies have less of an effect on the wealthy since the taxes and subsidies are a much smaller percentage of their wealth. </p>
<p>I also think Bob Guimarin’s idea of “battery exchange capable cars” is a good idea and has some business potential for the future. But Anonymous is right: a battery exchange infrastructure is 20-30 years away. It would have to be some sort of battery standards and designed replaceability, agreed upon by all the manufactures, before the concept can reach any acceptance.</p>
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		<title>By: Dj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have notice one thing that American`s are selfish......We want to be free of oversea oil but we as a counrty wont take the right steps to do it.Complaining about price......complaining about the poor can`t afford it.First of all nobody in the U.S is poor, might not&lt;br /&gt;
have alot of money but most of American are better off than most people in the world.To all American`s get your high horse and &lt;br /&gt;
think about what  good it would do for are kids and our kids....kids&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Dj]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have notice one thing that American`s are selfish&#8230;&#8230;We want to be free of oversea oil but we as a counrty wont take the right steps to do it.Complaining about price&#8230;&#8230;complaining about the poor can`t afford it.First of all nobody in the U.S is poor, might not<br />
have alot of money but most of American are better off than most people in the world.To all American`s get your high horse and <br />
think about what  good it would do for are kids and our kids&#8230;.kids</p>
<p>Dj</p>
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		<title>By: Halo9x</title>
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		<dc:creator>Halo9x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all, the article is worried about a man-made hoax perpetrated by Gore, Pelosi, Reid and other politicians. CO2 is a gas that plants need in order to live. Second of all, we in the U.S. do not have a shortage of oil or NG. What we have is an abundance of stupidity in our political leaders who refuse, against better judgement, to allow our companies to responsibly go after all of the resources that we have.  Russia is inking a deal with Cuba to drill for oil in OUR backyard!!! Does anyone think they are going to do a better job than our own companies would do? Does anyone think they are going to &quot;respect&quot; the environment? &lt;br /&gt;
The environmental religious zealots are responsible for the propaganda that is crippling this country!!!  &lt;br /&gt;
If anyone would think they would realize that it is no hotter now than when they were kids. I lived in El Paso during the 50&#039;s, it was hot then and it is hot now! No change. In Texas, it always gets hot in the summer, period! You could cook eggs on a sidewalk then and you still can. Wise up and quite being suckers! Gore is in it to become a billionaire if the stupid Cap &amp; Trade passes. Pelosi is set to make millions as is GE and others. The losers are going to be the rest of US. &lt;br /&gt;
Much as I would like to &quot;convert&quot; a gas car to all electric, the truth is it would cost $20,000! Converting my Prius to a PHEV would cost a minimum of $10,000. I don&#039;t know about anyone else, but I don&#039;t have a spare $10K laying around. The Volt is going to cost about $40K which puts it out of the reach of all but a few. So, lets get real, gasoline is going to be the fuel for the long haul. Hybrids will help to stretch the gasoline until some miracle solution that is actually affordable comes to market. Till then don&#039;t drive any more nails into our economic coffin. The rest of us would really appreciate it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, the article is worried about a man-made hoax perpetrated by Gore, Pelosi, Reid and other politicians. CO2 is a gas that plants need in order to live. Second of all, we in the U.S. do not have a shortage of oil or NG. What we have is an abundance of stupidity in our political leaders who refuse, against better judgement, to allow our companies to responsibly go after all of the resources that we have.  Russia is inking a deal with Cuba to drill for oil in OUR backyard!!! Does anyone think they are going to do a better job than our own companies would do? Does anyone think they are going to &#8220;respect&#8221; the environment? <br />
The environmental religious zealots are responsible for the propaganda that is crippling this country!!!  <br />
If anyone would think they would realize that it is no hotter now than when they were kids. I lived in El Paso during the 50&#8242;s, it was hot then and it is hot now! No change. In Texas, it always gets hot in the summer, period! You could cook eggs on a sidewalk then and you still can. Wise up and quite being suckers! Gore is in it to become a billionaire if the stupid Cap &#038; Trade passes. Pelosi is set to make millions as is GE and others. The losers are going to be the rest of US. <br />
Much as I would like to &#8220;convert&#8221; a gas car to all electric, the truth is it would cost $20,000! Converting my Prius to a PHEV would cost a minimum of $10,000. I don&#8217;t know about anyone else, but I don&#8217;t have a spare $10K laying around. The Volt is going to cost about $40K which puts it out of the reach of all but a few. So, lets get real, gasoline is going to be the fuel for the long haul. Hybrids will help to stretch the gasoline until some miracle solution that is actually affordable comes to market. Till then don&#8217;t drive any more nails into our economic coffin. The rest of us would really appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Battery exchange infrastructure is 20-30 years away.  NGV is here NOW]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Battery exchange infrastructure is 20-30 years away.  NGV is here NOW</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is 20 years away. &lt;br /&gt;
If you wanna speed it up raise the gas tax and it wll happen in 5 years]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is 20 years away. <br />
If you wanna speed it up raise the gas tax and it wll happen in 5 years</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Guimarin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Guimarin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As long as we ignore the realities of the general driving public, then nothing that is done to promote greener transportation will make more than a ripple in an ocean of continued fossil fuel consumption for transportation needs.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we put our focus on converting some of the 245 million gas cars to 100% electric cars, at a reasonable price to the general public, then we could truly make incredible reductions in GHGs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Don&#039;t tell the American public to drive less, or drive a car that doesn&#039; t fit their needs.  Let them have the same cars they drive today, at a reasonable costs. and help the earth....  Providing a battery exchange infrastructure, that negates the need for the &quot;most optimized EV technological&quot; design and vehicle build, will greatly accelerate the adoption of 100% EVs.   Does it really matter if a converted Gas-Car can only travel 100miles on a $2 charge and then swap out for another battery that was charged by green energy sources, if we can get 10,000s of folks to get completely off gasoline decades ahead of the current., &quot;Gas-Electric Hybrid&quot; mantra?  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hybrids are not the answer, battery exchange capable cars are the answer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as we ignore the realities of the general driving public, then nothing that is done to promote greener transportation will make more than a ripple in an ocean of continued fossil fuel consumption for transportation needs.</p>
<p>If we put our focus on converting some of the 245 million gas cars to 100% electric cars, at a reasonable price to the general public, then we could truly make incredible reductions in GHGs.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t tell the American public to drive less, or drive a car that doesn&#8217; t fit their needs.  Let them have the same cars they drive today, at a reasonable costs. and help the earth&#8230;.  Providing a battery exchange infrastructure, that negates the need for the &#8220;most optimized EV technological&#8221; design and vehicle build, will greatly accelerate the adoption of 100% EVs.   Does it really matter if a converted Gas-Car can only travel 100miles on a $2 charge and then swap out for another battery that was charged by green energy sources, if we can get 10,000s of folks to get completely off gasoline decades ahead of the current., &#8220;Gas-Electric Hybrid&#8221; mantra?  </p>
<p>Hybrids are not the answer, battery exchange capable cars are the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The article isn&#039;t stupid, but it does deserve the Captain Obvious Award.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you want to reduce how much people use something, you make it more expensive.  Really?  No one ever figured that out before.  Thanks for that brilliant insight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article isn&#8217;t stupid, but it does deserve the Captain Obvious Award.</p>
<p>If you want to reduce how much people use something, you make it more expensive.  Really?  No one ever figured that out before.  Thanks for that brilliant insight.</p>
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		<title>By: veek</title>
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		<dc:creator>veek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The study has a couple of excellent points:  First, driving is a major element of GHG&#039;s (and so very much of our driving is elective),&lt;br /&gt;
and Second, a predictable and gradual increase in the price of fuel is the way to go.  We will know this cost ahead of time (unlike most past fuel cost increases, which were sudden and unplanned) and then we can prepare accordingly. The adjustment will be difficult -- no kidding -- but so will the price of non-action.&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;d rather have the cost increase go to our government, as bad as is is, than to the usual beneficiaries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The study has a couple of excellent points:  First, driving is a major element of GHG&#8217;s (and so very much of our driving is elective),<br />
and Second, a predictable and gradual increase in the price of fuel is the way to go.  We will know this cost ahead of time (unlike most past fuel cost increases, which were sudden and unplanned) and then we can prepare accordingly. The adjustment will be difficult &#8212; no kidding &#8212; but so will the price of non-action.<br />
I&#8217;d rather have the cost increase go to our government, as bad as is is, than to the usual beneficiaries.</p>
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