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	<title>Comments on: Mercedes Rejects Electric Car Battery Swapping</title>
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		<title>By: Lisza Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/skeptics-question-electric-car-battery-swapping-25627/#comment-17867</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisza Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 06:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nice this one really nice article right now and also i just wanna know if this vehicle right here have the &lt;a rel=&quot;dofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.thepartsbin.com/brands/ac_delco/ac_delco_a-fs-c_relay.html&quot;&gt;a/c relay&lt;/a&gt; and having this old car]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice this one really nice article right now and also i just wanna know if this vehicle right here have the <a rel="dofollow" href="http://www.thepartsbin.com/brands/ac_delco/ac_delco_a-fs-c_relay.html">a/c relay</a> and having this old car</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bucks</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/skeptics-question-electric-car-battery-swapping-25627/#comment-17866</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Bucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 00:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The point about the lack of standardization of batteries is a bit dubious. You could have no doubt made this point at some time in the past about regular filling stations - how can we have filling stations across the country when the openings to tanks on cars are all different sizes?&lt;br /&gt;
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They just negotiated a standard and the problem was solved - just as they would with electric batteries. It hasn&#039;t happened yet, but that&#039;s simply because there&#039;s been no need to do it yet. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point about the lack of standardization of batteries is a bit dubious. You could have no doubt made this point at some time in the past about regular filling stations &#8211; how can we have filling stations across the country when the openings to tanks on cars are all different sizes?</p>
<p>They just negotiated a standard and the problem was solved &#8211; just as they would with electric batteries. It hasn&#8217;t happened yet, but that&#8217;s simply because there&#8217;s been no need to do it yet. </p>
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		<title>By: Sandru Mircea</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/skeptics-question-electric-car-battery-swapping-25627/#comment-17865</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandru Mircea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that Mercedes hybrid and electric cars will be very popular in few years. I love every Mercedes model and i think I  will enjoy also an electric Mercedes. I write about similar cars on http://www.mygreentreasure.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Mercedes hybrid and electric cars will be very popular in few years. I love every Mercedes model and i think I  will enjoy also an electric Mercedes. I write about similar cars on <a href="http://www.mygreentreasure.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mygreentreasure.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carl Danner</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/skeptics-question-electric-car-battery-swapping-25627/#comment-17864</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Danner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you know that during a lightning storm one of the safest places you can be is inside a car.  The reason is that the metal around the passenger compartment shields you from EMI.  The electricity tends to flow in the metal rather than in you because the metal is a much better conductor of electricity.&lt;br /&gt;
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The main purpose of battery-swapping should be to allow EV owners the option to install the type of battery that meets their needs best.  Check out my site.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Carl]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you know that during a lightning storm one of the safest places you can be is inside a car.  The reason is that the metal around the passenger compartment shields you from EMI.  The electricity tends to flow in the metal rather than in you because the metal is a much better conductor of electricity.</p>
<p>The main purpose of battery-swapping should be to allow EV owners the option to install the type of battery that meets their needs best.  Check out my site.  </p>
<p>Carl</p>
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		<title>By: Simsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doesn&#039;t take you off oil though....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t take you off oil though&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: HC Reader</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/skeptics-question-electric-car-battery-swapping-25627/#comment-17862</link>
		<dc:creator>HC Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hardly practical or achievable, today or in 15+ years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hardly practical or achievable, today or in 15+ years.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/skeptics-question-electric-car-battery-swapping-25627/#comment-17861</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While wireless power transmission has it&#039;s challenges, I&#039;d submit that to be useful, you don&#039;t have to wirelessly transmit sufficient power to completely power the vehicle.  Anything that would extend the electric range would have some value.  I envision a vehicle with a pretty hefty battery, maybe a modular gasoline engine that could be removed and replaced with additional batteries, or with nothing, and a multi-source energy harvesting system.  Maybe the batteries in a typical near term car could get you 100 miles, and the addition of solar cells on the roof and some sort of low-power wireless energy transmission can expand that by 10 miles.  That could be enough to get you to the next roadside recharging station, or to reduce your gasoline usage by 10 miles.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the effectiveness could increase as battery capacity increases.  If you can harvest 10 miles worth of energy while driving 100 miles, then if you get a new battery that can take you 200 miles, you&#039;d be able to harvest 20 miles worth of energy per charge.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some other possibilities:  As PV efficiency continues to increase, maybe it eventually becomes more efficient to use an optical coupling to beam power from the road to the bottom of the car than some kind of inductive technique.  PV cells are usually effective at a limited range of wavelengths.  So a cell that is 5% efficient over the entire solar spectrum of light might be 30% efficient at some narrow range.  Imagine vehicles with PV cells mounted on the undercarriage, and LEDs emitting at the optimum wavelength for those PVs embedded in the road surface, with some short range wireless signaling technology telling the road when to turn each LED segment on and off as a vehicle passes over it.  I bet you could eventually realize some pretty decent power transfer, with no EMI, and reasonable efficiency.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While wireless power transmission has it&#8217;s challenges, I&#8217;d submit that to be useful, you don&#8217;t have to wirelessly transmit sufficient power to completely power the vehicle.  Anything that would extend the electric range would have some value.  I envision a vehicle with a pretty hefty battery, maybe a modular gasoline engine that could be removed and replaced with additional batteries, or with nothing, and a multi-source energy harvesting system.  Maybe the batteries in a typical near term car could get you 100 miles, and the addition of solar cells on the roof and some sort of low-power wireless energy transmission can expand that by 10 miles.  That could be enough to get you to the next roadside recharging station, or to reduce your gasoline usage by 10 miles.</p>
<p>Also, the effectiveness could increase as battery capacity increases.  If you can harvest 10 miles worth of energy while driving 100 miles, then if you get a new battery that can take you 200 miles, you&#8217;d be able to harvest 20 miles worth of energy per charge.</p>
<p>Some other possibilities:  As PV efficiency continues to increase, maybe it eventually becomes more efficient to use an optical coupling to beam power from the road to the bottom of the car than some kind of inductive technique.  PV cells are usually effective at a limited range of wavelengths.  So a cell that is 5% efficient over the entire solar spectrum of light might be 30% efficient at some narrow range.  Imagine vehicles with PV cells mounted on the undercarriage, and LEDs emitting at the optimum wavelength for those PVs embedded in the road surface, with some short range wireless signaling technology telling the road when to turn each LED segment on and off as a vehicle passes over it.  I bet you could eventually realize some pretty decent power transfer, with no EMI, and reasonable efficiency.</p>
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		<title>By: simon@syd</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/skeptics-question-electric-car-battery-swapping-25627/#comment-17860</link>
		<dc:creator>simon@syd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 05:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could wrieless energy transfer ever replace the pantograph? I suppose that would make a real EMI though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could wrieless energy transfer ever replace the pantograph? I suppose that would make a real EMI though.</p>
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		<title>By: RKRB</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/skeptics-question-electric-car-battery-swapping-25627/#comment-17857</link>
		<dc:creator>RKRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The author has helped us understand the issues.  Paul Rivers, and Mercedes, also make excellent points.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, w,e already expose ourselves to substantial risks from existing electrical and liquid fuel sources (including intangible and unquantifiable risks of &quot;wars to protect oil supplies,&quot; etc.).  The relative risks,  uncertainties, and probabilities involved in things like EMI, shielding, carcinogenicity of gasoline vapors, etc., unfortunately, are fiendishly difficult to quantify and to understand, and even then, unintended random events can distort things further. To make things even worse, we often leave these issues in the hands of politicians and others who are probably the least qualified and least ethical people to manage them. We could, as an option, establish some kind of &quot;quantocracy,&quot; where mathematicians and quantitative experts could come up with reasonable solutions to manage risk.  After all, the quants have used sophisticated mathematical computations to do a most excellent and predictable job of managing risk in the mortgage and stock markets, uh, right?&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a complex system and only one thing can be certain -- a simple, one-size-fits-all explanation or solution will predictably be probably wrong. Minimizing risk and maximizing benefits are excellent solutions, but they inherently involve probability. This is as an unavoidable condition of just being alive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author has helped us understand the issues.  Paul Rivers, and Mercedes, also make excellent points.</p>
<p>Yes, w,e already expose ourselves to substantial risks from existing electrical and liquid fuel sources (including intangible and unquantifiable risks of &#8220;wars to protect oil supplies,&#8221; etc.).  The relative risks,  uncertainties, and probabilities involved in things like EMI, shielding, carcinogenicity of gasoline vapors, etc., unfortunately, are fiendishly difficult to quantify and to understand, and even then, unintended random events can distort things further. To make things even worse, we often leave these issues in the hands of politicians and others who are probably the least qualified and least ethical people to manage them. We could, as an option, establish some kind of &#8220;quantocracy,&#8221; where mathematicians and quantitative experts could come up with reasonable solutions to manage risk.  After all, the quants have used sophisticated mathematical computations to do a most excellent and predictable job of managing risk in the mortgage and stock markets, uh, right?</p>
<p>This is a complex system and only one thing can be certain &#8212; a simple, one-size-fits-all explanation or solution will predictably be probably wrong. Minimizing risk and maximizing benefits are excellent solutions, but they inherently involve probability. This is as an unavoidable condition of just being alive.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Well I feel stupid - I misread his post slightly, I thought he was talking about having the battery in the car, and he/she&#039;s talking about the electricity coming from the roadway - completely different. My apologies.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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No worries, you can&#039;t be the only one who made that mistake.  Had you not said anything, it stands to reason that someone else, having had the same misunderstanding, would have walked away thinking that EVs are an EMI hazard.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well I feel stupid &#8211; I misread his post slightly, I thought he was talking about having the battery in the car, and he/she&#8217;s talking about the electricity coming from the roadway &#8211; completely different. My apologies.&#8221;</p>
<p>No worries, you can&#8217;t be the only one who made that mistake.  Had you not said anything, it stands to reason that someone else, having had the same misunderstanding, would have walked away thinking that EVs are an EMI hazard.</p>
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