Comments on: Renault-Nissan has invested $5.6 billion in EVs thus far

By: Capt. Concernicus

Capt. Concernicus — Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:23:17 +0000

@ Max,

Thaks for the correction. It is over 2 million. Toyota hybrid sales are over 3 million.

Prius sales will reach over 3 million eventually. Hopefully as soon as possible.

By: Max Reid

Max Reid — Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:47:42 +0000

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2011/09/insight-20110908.html
Honda introduced redesigned Insight.

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2011/09/honda-20110910.html
Honda going to start producing Minivehicles (660cc) in Japan again.

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2011/09/vea-20110905.html
Volvo settles for vehicles with V4 engine and also going to try flywheel.

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2011/09/hyboost-20110907.html
V4 engine replaced by V3 engine.

By: Max Reid

Max Reid — Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:23:11 +0000

Hello Capt

Prius sales reached
1 Million in May 2008
2 Million in Oct 2010
yet to reach 3 million.

Only Toyota's Hybrid sales reached 3 Million, not that or Prius alone.
But soon, it will reach 3 Million and we are just waiting for that day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius

By: Capt. Concernicus

Capt. Concernicus — Fri, 09 Sep 2011 13:22:16 +0000

@ James,

Sorry James, but you're wrong.

With 3,000,000 Prii sold worldwide (1,000,000 in the U.S.) and major automakers like; Toyota, GM, Ford, Hyundai, Honda, Porcshe and Nissan all offering some sort of hybrid vehicle, hybrids have gone mainstream baby! Get used to it.

Don't know why you hate hybrids so much, but I don't really care either.

As long as you understand that hybrids aren't a niche market. Anyone can buy them for a reasonable price. Just because more people don't doesn't make them a niche market. It just makes them clueless.

By: MrEnergyCzar

MrEnergyCzar — Fri, 09 Sep 2011 01:21:00 +0000

Plug-in's are the way to go. I think they should not focus some much on pure EV's. AAA has an EV charging rescue service now in limited leaf areas.....

MrEnergyCzar

By: Max Reid

Max Reid — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 21:34:13 +0000

If you have a full hybrid, there is every possibility that you can convert it to plugin with 10 - 20 mile range. Some companies have converted it to even 60 mile range.

So Hybrid is not evil, even the micro and partial hybrids are lesser evil than the non-hybrids. We have to use whatever technology thats available to reduce oil consumption.

CNG / LPG / Ethanol / Ecoboost / G-Diesel / Electric and so on.

By: James Davis

James Davis — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:21:55 +0000

Ghosn is a visionary, but I believe his 10% EVs by 2020 is very low. If the automakers make them and put them on the market, people will buy them. We are desperate to get away from fossil fuels and high gas prices. I don’t want to have to stop at another gas station for the rest of my life, so that means that I will never buy a hybrid. It is not the lesser of the two evils…it is an extension of the first evil and Varin’s projections are way off point and just a walk in fairyland. Hybrids will not even make it to being a niche. Why would anyone want to extend the fossil fuel age by buying a hybrid and continue paying those high gas prices? Buy a couple of solar panels with a life span of 30 years or more and your driving fuel will be free.

By: Yegor

Yegor — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:51:50 +0000

By 08.25.2011 Nisan already sold 10,000 LEAFs globally:

http://www.nissannews.com/pressrelease/2754//nissan-leaf-coming-chicago-fall

With average price of $35,000 it is:
$35,000 x 10,000 = $350,000,000

Right now they cannot produce enough vehicles – they will recover their money soon.

By: Van

Van — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:38:26 +0000

What is missing from the article is the pace of Nissan's development of its NMC battery for the next generation Leaf. This new battery was said to provide a range of 186 miles, as compared to the claim of 100 miles for the current Leaf. Now since CU says their testing shows about 70 miles of combined driving, with a little less in cold weather, then the NMC should provide about 130 miles of worry free range.

When that car debuts, say late 2013, they will sell as fast as Nissan can make them.

By: Max Reid

Max Reid — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:11:04 +0000

We need visionaries like Ghosn. Great job.

Between 2000 - 2010, hardly 1,000 EVs were sold. But Nissan is selling 1,000 + Leafs in USA alone every month.
Meanwhile Renault is planning to launch Electric Kangoo for just Euro 20,000. Also another of Renaults EV will have 115 mile range.

When more EVs like Focus, Miev, Tesla S come in, the EV race will kick in and the cost will go down with mass production.

See how the price of Solar PV panels has gone down by 70% in the last 3 years.