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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is the real cost these made of figures?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the real cost these made of figures?</p>
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		<title>By: John Lovrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Lovrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One carbon combines with two oxygen from the atmosphere to produce CO2. Carbon is element six, atomic weight about 12. Oxygen is element 8, atomic weight about 16. You are adding almost 3 times the mass of the carbon in oxygen. Of course it&#039;s more complicated than that, but it&#039;s intuitive and gets us thinking in the right direction.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also factor in that it takes a little over two gallons of crude oil to make a gallon of gasoline.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lastly, the weight of the product isn&#039;t the whole issue, the energy required to produce and transport it is also included in their calculations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One carbon combines with two oxygen from the atmosphere to produce CO2. Carbon is element six, atomic weight about 12. Oxygen is element 8, atomic weight about 16. You are adding almost 3 times the mass of the carbon in oxygen. Of course it&#8217;s more complicated than that, but it&#8217;s intuitive and gets us thinking in the right direction.</p>
<p>Also factor in that it takes a little over two gallons of crude oil to make a gallon of gasoline.</p>
<p>Lastly, the weight of the product isn&#8217;t the whole issue, the energy required to produce and transport it is also included in their calculations.</p>
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		<title>By: MrEnergyCzar</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrEnergyCzar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 23:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Roland.  I used to think they&#039;d never drill 10K feet under water due to the extreme environment.....  Under the north pole, through the mountains of Afghanistan...  Strange things happen along the ugly down-slope of Peak Oil....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Roland.  I used to think they&#8217;d never drill 10K feet under water due to the extreme environment&#8230;..  Under the north pole, through the mountains of Afghanistan&#8230;  Strange things happen along the ugly down-slope of Peak Oil&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@DutchInChicago:  Don&#039;t take my comments to an extreme.  If someone tried to say the &#039;true&#039; cost of gas was over $5/gal, they&#039;d have no trouble in supporting it.  But I&#039;ve seen some of these reports on the price of gas - one where the &#039;true&#039; cost came out at an even more ridiculously high number (I wish I remembered the specifics).  But when I did some math, multiplying that by the amount of gas we burn, I came up with a number higher than the country&#039;s GDP.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m all in favor of slowly rising fuel taxes (so as to avoid shocks to the economy) to pay for repairing infrastructure, more mass transit and making up for what SHOULD be declining revenues from gas taxxes as we migrate to more electric-based vehicles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DutchInChicago:  Don&#8217;t take my comments to an extreme.  If someone tried to say the &#8216;true&#8217; cost of gas was over $5/gal, they&#8217;d have no trouble in supporting it.  But I&#8217;ve seen some of these reports on the price of gas &#8211; one where the &#8216;true&#8217; cost came out at an even more ridiculously high number (I wish I remembered the specifics).  But when I did some math, multiplying that by the amount of gas we burn, I came up with a number higher than the country&#8217;s GDP.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all in favor of slowly rising fuel taxes (so as to avoid shocks to the economy) to pay for repairing infrastructure, more mass transit and making up for what SHOULD be declining revenues from gas taxxes as we migrate to more electric-based vehicles.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t find a reference in the article about this so not sure where you got the numbers from but if I remember my high school chemistry correctly......&lt;br /&gt;
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- According to wikipedia, 6 lbs of gasoline contains about 5.-5.2 lbs of carbon (83-87%)&lt;br /&gt;
- CO2 is one part carbon and two parts oxygen&lt;br /&gt;
- Oxygen&#039;s atomic weight is around 16 vs carbon&#039;s 12&lt;br /&gt;
- So 6 lb of gas can generate close to 20lbs of CO2 alone&lt;br /&gt;
- The other parts of gasoline, including nitrogen, can make up a few extra lbs&lt;br /&gt;
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So I think 25lbs may be a little bit of exaggeration, but it&#039;s not too far off.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t find a reference in the article about this so not sure where you got the numbers from but if I remember my high school chemistry correctly&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>- According to wikipedia, 6 lbs of gasoline contains about 5.-5.2 lbs of carbon (83-87%)<br />
- CO2 is one part carbon and two parts oxygen<br />
- Oxygen&#8217;s atomic weight is around 16 vs carbon&#8217;s 12<br />
- So 6 lb of gas can generate close to 20lbs of CO2 alone<br />
- The other parts of gasoline, including nitrogen, can make up a few extra lbs</p>
<p>So I think 25lbs may be a little bit of exaggeration, but it&#8217;s not too far off.</p>
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		<title>By: 54mpg</title>
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		<dc:creator>54mpg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[so why did we go to Afghanistan and Iraq?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so why did we go to Afghanistan and Iraq?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Fusion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Fusion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Old Man Crowder and cld for the explanations.&lt;br /&gt;
Very interesting and disturbing stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Old Man Crowder and cld for the explanations.<br />
Very interesting and disturbing stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr Energy Czar,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thats an interesting geopolitical idea that rings with merit. The only issue I see is how mountainous both Afghanistan and even more so with Pakistan this area is, and the difficulty of any pipeline that would be placed would attract more insurgents and the local populace to steal it. Much like Africa&#039;s oil, employment and cost of living Afhanistan is already tied to those last two with $10 a day wages. I think we would have to be here another century just to get the pipe laid not counting the insurgency issues.&lt;br /&gt;
Afghanistan wasn&#039;t always like it is now. Back in the 70&#039;s it was much like Amsterdam, very touristy and little religeon. People talk about how its a civil war, but it isnt. Most of society here remembers having those freedoms, but are unable to act out of fear of retribution. Much like our own southern border and its current issues. I myself work with an interpretor from here who is extremely grateful to have us here, and dreads the thought of leaving the job unfinished. then civil war would truly erupt. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I got off topic. I enjoy reading the insightful discussions though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Energy Czar,</p>
<p>Thats an interesting geopolitical idea that rings with merit. The only issue I see is how mountainous both Afghanistan and even more so with Pakistan this area is, and the difficulty of any pipeline that would be placed would attract more insurgents and the local populace to steal it. Much like Africa&#8217;s oil, employment and cost of living Afhanistan is already tied to those last two with $10 a day wages. I think we would have to be here another century just to get the pipe laid not counting the insurgency issues.<br />
Afghanistan wasn&#8217;t always like it is now. Back in the 70&#8242;s it was much like Amsterdam, very touristy and little religeon. People talk about how its a civil war, but it isnt. Most of society here remembers having those freedoms, but are unable to act out of fear of retribution. Much like our own southern border and its current issues. I myself work with an interpretor from here who is extremely grateful to have us here, and dreads the thought of leaving the job unfinished. then civil war would truly erupt. </p>
<p>I got off topic. I enjoy reading the insightful discussions though.</p>
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		<title>By: MrEnergyCzar</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrEnergyCzar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 01:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for serving.  A stable Afghanistan will allow us to be better positioned to go after Iran&#039;s remaining oil deposits by basically surrounding them on 3 sides.  It will also be easier to divert gas and oil pipelines away from Russian territories up North by going through Afghanistan and bringing that gas/oil to western markets away from Russian influence....  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for serving.  A stable Afghanistan will allow us to be better positioned to go after Iran&#8217;s remaining oil deposits by basically surrounding them on 3 sides.  It will also be easier to divert gas and oil pipelines away from Russian territories up North by going through Afghanistan and bringing that gas/oil to western markets away from Russian influence&#8230;.  </p>
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		<title>By: cld</title>
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		<dc:creator>cld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 21:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Correction, 3.17/1 would of course give you 20 pounds CO2 from 6.3 pounds gasoline.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction, 3.17/1 would of course give you 20 pounds CO2 from 6.3 pounds gasoline.</p>
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