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		<title>By: arthurarnold</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/plug-vehicle-indistry-places-hope-fleet-purchases-31072/#comment-33027</link>
		<dc:creator>arthurarnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 11:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today’s vehicles are graded on stricter and more precise parameters than ever before from weight to safety to durability and anywhere and everywhere in between. New materials have brought out new techniques for construction and vehicle design. &lt;a rel=&quot;dofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.barrettmoving.com/locations/minneapolis-stpaul&quot;&gt;Minneapolis Moving Company&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today’s vehicles are graded on stricter and more precise parameters than ever before from weight to safety to durability and anywhere and everywhere in between. New materials have brought out new techniques for construction and vehicle design. <a rel="dofollow" href="http://www.barrettmoving.com/locations/minneapolis-stpaul">Minneapolis Moving Company</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Telford</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/plug-vehicle-indistry-places-hope-fleet-purchases-31072/#comment-33026</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Telford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 22:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We already have electrical outlets across the country.  They are in welding shops, construction yards, RV parks, campgrounds, motorhome parks, my barn...  The question is will an auto maker create an on board charger that will allow the user to use any 240 volt outlet and select the charge rate based on the amp rating of that outlet.  The 110 volt onboard cord in my car takes too long to charge.  The charging stations are not designed to remove from the wall and carry in the car.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We already have electrical outlets across the country.  They are in welding shops, construction yards, RV parks, campgrounds, motorhome parks, my barn&#8230;  The question is will an auto maker create an on board charger that will allow the user to use any 240 volt outlet and select the charge rate based on the amp rating of that outlet.  The 110 volt onboard cord in my car takes too long to charge.  The charging stations are not designed to remove from the wall and carry in the car.</p>
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		<title>By: Somebody buy these things!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Somebody buy these things!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2011 14:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchresults.action?stkTyp=N&amp;tracktype=newcc&amp;mkId=20053&amp;AmbMkId=20053&amp;AmbMkNm=Chevrolet&amp;make=Chevrolet&amp;AmbMdNm=Volt&amp;model=Volt&amp;mdId=35025&amp;AmbMdId=35025&amp;rd=100000&amp;zc=10005&amp;enableSeo=1&amp;searchSource=TRAIL_HEAD]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchresults.action?stkTyp=N&#038;tracktype=newcc&#038;mkId=20053&#038;AmbMkId=20053&#038;AmbMkNm=Chevrolet&#038;make=Chevrolet&#038;AmbMdNm=Volt&#038;model=Volt&#038;mdId=35025&#038;AmbMdId=35025&#038;rd=100000&#038;zc=10005&#038;enableSeo=1&#038;searchSource=TRAIL_HEAD" rel="nofollow">http://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchresults.action?stkTyp=N&#038;tracktype=newcc&#038;mkId=20053&#038;AmbMkId=20053&#038;AmbMkNm=Chevrolet&#038;make=Chevrolet&#038;AmbMdNm=Volt&#038;model=Volt&#038;mdId=35025&#038;AmbMdId=35025&#038;rd=100000&#038;zc=10005&#038;enableSeo=1&#038;searchSource=TRAIL_HEAD</a></p>
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		<title>By: roro</title>
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		<dc:creator>roro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 04:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They need to make this happen, it&#039;s just a smart move.Some common add-ons to plug in vehicles will be electric vehicle supply equipment (EVSE), chargers, and software.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They need to make this happen, it&#8217;s just a smart move.Some common add-ons to plug in vehicles will be electric vehicle supply equipment (EVSE), chargers, and software.</p>
<p><a href=”http://www.ccperrisvalley.org/Welcome/Men.html”>calvary chapel perris valley</a></p>
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		<title>By: MrEnergyCzar</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/plug-vehicle-indistry-places-hope-fleet-purchases-31072/#comment-33023</link>
		<dc:creator>MrEnergyCzar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 23:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We need real gas taxes like Europe, that will speed adoption...&lt;br /&gt;
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MrEnergyCzar]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need real gas taxes like Europe, that will speed adoption&#8230;</p>
<p>MrEnergyCzar</p>
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		<title>By: Max Reid</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/plug-vehicle-indistry-places-hope-fleet-purchases-31072/#comment-33022</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 04:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr John K&lt;br /&gt;
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When a plugin drives on motor,  it will be more smoother than luxury vehicle,  so you should compare Prius PHV with vehcle that costs $35K - $40 K.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Plugins are stopgap between IC engine &amp; BEV.  If my daily commute is 20 miles and by using Prius PHV, I can drive 75% of the distance on Electric,  then why should I buy a BEV with a 100 mile range.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr John K</p>
<p>When a plugin drives on motor,  it will be more smoother than luxury vehicle,  so you should compare Prius PHV with vehcle that costs $35K &#8211; $40 K.</p>
<p>Plugins are stopgap between IC engine &#038; BEV.  If my daily commute is 20 miles and by using Prius PHV, I can drive 75% of the distance on Electric,  then why should I buy a BEV with a 100 mile range.</p>
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		<title>By: John K.</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/plug-vehicle-indistry-places-hope-fleet-purchases-31072/#comment-33021</link>
		<dc:creator>John K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 00:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) &quot;A common consumer objection is that plug-in vehicles are a step backwards compared to internally combusted vehicles. They cost more, and have limited range and slow recharging in a country where 170,000 gas stations and five-minute fill-ups are taken for granted.&lt;br /&gt;
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Further, city dwellers, multi-unit apartment dwellers and people who otherwise do not have a garage to charge a plug-in vehicle naturally view their situation as a major impediment.&quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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CNG hybrids are the idea &quot;bridge technology&quot; for urban usage until battery tech improves. Honda could easily combine their Civic Hybrid and Civic Natural Gas technologies into one car, preferably w/Li ion. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2) Hydraulic hybrids are very efficient for delivery truck. IIRC, UPS had a trial w/a few of them. Anyone know how that turned out? Again, combining it w/CNG seems like a quick &amp; clean fix to hold us over for the next 5 years until battery tech improves. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Too many on our side say &quot;BEVs or bust!&quot; Everyone else says, &quot;What&#039;s in it for me? How much can I save?&quot; That&#039;s why we remain a fringe....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We&#039;ve got to &quot;sell&quot; everyone else something that they&#039;ll want to buy and sell it to them in terms that motivate them, not in terms that motivate us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) &#8220;A common consumer objection is that plug-in vehicles are a step backwards compared to internally combusted vehicles. They cost more, and have limited range and slow recharging in a country where 170,000 gas stations and five-minute fill-ups are taken for granted.</p>
<p>Further, city dwellers, multi-unit apartment dwellers and people who otherwise do not have a garage to charge a plug-in vehicle naturally view their situation as a major impediment.&#8221; </p>
<p>CNG hybrids are the idea &#8220;bridge technology&#8221; for urban usage until battery tech improves. Honda could easily combine their Civic Hybrid and Civic Natural Gas technologies into one car, preferably w/Li ion. </p>
<p>2) Hydraulic hybrids are very efficient for delivery truck. IIRC, UPS had a trial w/a few of them. Anyone know how that turned out? Again, combining it w/CNG seems like a quick &#038; clean fix to hold us over for the next 5 years until battery tech improves. </p>
<p>Too many on our side say &#8220;BEVs or bust!&#8221; Everyone else says, &#8220;What&#8217;s in it for me? How much can I save?&#8221; That&#8217;s why we remain a fringe&#8230;.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve got to &#8220;sell&#8221; everyone else something that they&#8217;ll want to buy and sell it to them in terms that motivate them, not in terms that motivate us.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 23:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw a Fedex EV in Chicago.  The most important thing to Electrification is establishing Charging Station Network.  There should be a Charging Station every 10 miles, which means&lt;br /&gt;
300 stations from East to West (in distance of 3,000 miles)&lt;br /&gt;
times&lt;br /&gt;
100 stations from North to South (in distance of 1,000 miles)&lt;br /&gt;
= 30,000 stations.&lt;br /&gt;
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First they should get Level-2 Charger which costs just $2,000 and &lt;br /&gt;
30,000 * $2,000 = $60,000,000 (just $60 Million)&lt;br /&gt;
At the next level, they should also get Level-3 Charger which costs $60,000.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
30,000 * $60,000 = $1,800,000,000 (just $1.8 Billion) and thats peanuts compare to $1 billion spent on Foreign Oil every day.&lt;br /&gt;
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Infact Nissan&#039;s Level 3 Charger costs just $13,000.  &lt;br /&gt;
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After this,  many fleets, individuals, Taxis will automatically start buying Plugin.&lt;br /&gt;
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Toyota has priced Prius Plugin @ $32,000 and it has 15 mile range.&lt;br /&gt;
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For companies like Fedex and USPS,  just can just buy a EV with 100 mile range and during lunch time, they should be fast charged for another 100 miles for the afternoon service.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a Fedex EV in Chicago.  The most important thing to Electrification is establishing Charging Station Network.  There should be a Charging Station every 10 miles, which means<br />
300 stations from East to West (in distance of 3,000 miles)<br />
times<br />
100 stations from North to South (in distance of 1,000 miles)<br />
= 30,000 stations.</p>
<p>First they should get Level-2 Charger which costs just $2,000 and <br />
30,000 * $2,000 = $60,000,000 (just $60 Million)<br />
At the next level, they should also get Level-3 Charger which costs $60,000.</p>
<p>30,000 * $60,000 = $1,800,000,000 (just $1.8 Billion) and thats peanuts compare to $1 billion spent on Foreign Oil every day.</p>
<p>Infact Nissan&#8217;s Level 3 Charger costs just $13,000.  </p>
<p>After this,  many fleets, individuals, Taxis will automatically start buying Plugin.</p>
<p>Toyota has priced Prius Plugin @ $32,000 and it has 15 mile range.</p>
<p>For companies like Fedex and USPS,  just can just buy a EV with 100 mile range and during lunch time, they should be fast charged for another 100 miles for the afternoon service.</p>
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