Comments on: Nobody Knows How To Market an Eco Car

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By: Bryce

Bryce — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:24:53 +0000

………what is it???

By: aCAGAL

aCAGAL — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:41:48 +0000

I have some good ideas on how to market a PHEV, or the EV with extended range vehicles, and Green has little to do with why I think these cars will work.

By: Bryce

Bryce — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:51:24 +0000

Agreed. The new redesigns are excellent.......though, I am pretty sure the 300 is a Chrysler product and not GM.

PHEV is a beautiful system and I can't wait for it. Luckily for me , it will have been out for about a year once I graduate in 2011 and hopefully cost will be down a bit and any potential kinks will have already been worked out. If it is still out of my range, there is always the Cruze. : )

By: chukcha

chukcha — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:32:35 +0000

The GM is renewing their lineup and I think they do a pretty decent job right now. Malibu, Pontiac G8, the upcoming Cruz, 300 are all very good looking cars in my opinion. Don’t forget that exterior/interior design is more important for most people than a propulsion system. Cup-holders and dashboard design are super important for my wife and we all know that when the little lady is happy then everyone is happy…
The engineering team of Malibu understands that and they did a good job on the Malibu. You can see that those guys put their heart into the Malibu. That’s what they need to do for all other models. I didn’t try to buy the Malibu Hybrid, so I cannot say anything about the buying experience. The dealer that showed me around the Malibu was good and not pushy at all. In general though, I like the fact that I can haggle over the price in a GM dealership. When I went to Toyota dealership, a while ago, they refused to haggle and that turned me right off. I like to feel that fought and got a good deal (that’s a personal preference…).
In terms of MPG and Full Hybrid vs Start-Stop technology I prefer not to focus too much on the MPG because both technologies are basically CRAP. In both cars you still HAVE to use gasoline and + or – 6 mpg is not changing anything because the difference is only a few dollars a month or less depending on your driving pattern.
So, I’m waiting for PHEV and I will only buy PHEV because it’s the only truly significant technology.

By: Bryce

Bryce — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:11:37 +0000

Have it your way. : )

No sheeple argument.....surprise surprise......

By: Armand

Armand — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:04:26 +0000

Performs as well as a Pontiac G8?

Uhhh...the G8 hasn't set any standards in anything frankly. Can it even hold a candle to a 335i or IS 350 other than in straightline acceleration? All that had to be done with a V8?

Please...let's not even get into the quality differences.

By: Bryce

Bryce — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:32:43 +0000

Fun it is indeed. : )

yea, the mild certainly doesn't compare in fuel economy ratings and GM doesn't have plans to put the 2 mode in the Malibu for a little while on account of the fact that it is really too big for it. It was designed originally for bigger trucks and SUVs. Luckily for us consumers, they are already in the process of developing the 2nd edition, if you will, of the 2 mode system, so that should be interesting. The non-hybrid models though are definetley a different story. I think it is funny that people think Toyota is the more fuel efficient brand. (it definetly comes from its previously acrued good reputation for cars, which were fine indeed, but lately I feel they have been dropping the ball) The Camry returns 21/31 numbers, and that is with its manual (standard) which is brough down to 21/30 with the automatic. The Malibu 6 speed auto returns 22/33. What would be really be beautiful if those engineers figured it out that if they put that 6speed into the mild hybrid, they could get 26/37 mpg outa that thing.

As for prices, I figure Chevrolet is charging such a similar price because....well.....they can. They are able to ride the hybrid name coupled with the nice redesign straight into a profitable Malibu. The system probably really is relatively cheap, but the current market allows them to pretty much do whatever the hell they want. lol

I have much love for the Altima hybrid. *warm feelings* : )

As for your sheeple Mr. Noz......

Sheeple must have good taste cuz that Caddy CTS that is selling so well is gorgeous. Same can be said for the Malibu. The Cruze can't get here fast enough. If their recent products (ie CTS, Traverse, Malibu) are any model, than it will be done well coupled with the high mpg numbers, it could be a real winner. Besides, anything could look better than that damn ugly Cobalt sedan. (though the coupe version isn't half bad)

I am also looking forward to Honda's new hybrid lineup. Should be interesting.

P.S. Noz, find me something that performs better than the Pontiac G8. (that is weird that you would talk about performance though.....are you feeling ok)

By: Armand

Armand — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:05:01 +0000

Anything to make things more fun!

By: Boom Boom

Boom Boom — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:40:35 +0000

Noz,
I'm not willing to make the same broad generalizations about the common folks and their ability to grow wool, but I appreciate your willingness to be the make those statements (many of which are mostly true) and be the lightning rod for flaming e-mails.

Good fun.