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		<title>By: Samie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 16:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Janni &lt;br /&gt;
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Beyond corn fields we would need to open up &quot;marginal land&quot; for grass ethanol that currently is used for wildlife protection, hunting activities, water supplies, flood control, ect....&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I wonder if anyone has ever thought of the energy cycle of corn ethanol.  If petroleum prices do increase, there will be higher prices in the energy chain (inputs, outputs, &amp; through puts).  Ethanol is highly reliant on cheap petro supplies.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Achilles heel of the industry is corn ethanol.  Corn ethanol represents a major windfall for agro businesses but lacks any real advancement in ethanol technology.   Moving to things like algae will unlikely happen as politicians continue to prop up the current dead end types of production and by the time the industry moves past corn hopefully most of use will move past ICE engines. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janni </p>
<p>Beyond corn fields we would need to open up &#8220;marginal land&#8221; for grass ethanol that currently is used for wildlife protection, hunting activities, water supplies, flood control, ect&#8230;.</p>
<p>Also, I wonder if anyone has ever thought of the energy cycle of corn ethanol.  If petroleum prices do increase, there will be higher prices in the energy chain (inputs, outputs, &#038; through puts).  Ethanol is highly reliant on cheap petro supplies.</p>
<p>The Achilles heel of the industry is corn ethanol.  Corn ethanol represents a major windfall for agro businesses but lacks any real advancement in ethanol technology.   Moving to things like algae will unlikely happen as politicians continue to prop up the current dead end types of production and by the time the industry moves past corn hopefully most of use will move past ICE engines. </p>
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		<title>By: Janni</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/nascar-gives-e15-green-flag-29124/#comment-28629</link>
		<dc:creator>Janni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 08:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand why they are doing this as ethanol is not the future.  The EROEI (Energi Return On Energi Invested) of corn produced ethanol is at best 20%.  The energi invested comes from fossil fuels.  Also to produce it the farmers receive large amounts of subsidies.  That is your tax money we&#039;ve talking about here.&lt;br /&gt;
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I read somewhere that if all of the US agricultural land was used for ethanol production from corn it would be enough to fuel 15% of the cars.  So it will NEVER be an alternative.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why they are doing this as ethanol is not the future.  The EROEI (Energi Return On Energi Invested) of corn produced ethanol is at best 20%.  The energi invested comes from fossil fuels.  Also to produce it the farmers receive large amounts of subsidies.  That is your tax money we&#8217;ve talking about here.</p>
<p>I read somewhere that if all of the US agricultural land was used for ethanol production from corn it would be enough to fuel 15% of the cars.  So it will NEVER be an alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: jack e berry</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack e berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.americanlemans.com/primary1.php?cat=green&lt;br /&gt;
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just in case you want a link to a racing series that is already doing its part for green racing.]]></description>
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just in case you want a link to a racing series that is already doing its part for green racing.</p>
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		<title>By: jack berry</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/nascar-gives-e15-green-flag-29124/#comment-28627</link>
		<dc:creator>jack berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[big deal. what is nascar saying? look at our outdated engine designs from the 1950&#039;s...we are using 15% ethanol now. so what! &lt;br /&gt;
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just about everywhere i buy fuel across the country the gas has 10% ethanol already in it! it is not a matter of using tony stewart as a marketing tool. it is nascar coming to realize that the new car design is a loser and needing to &quot;relate&quot; to the fans in real life. they never use pump gas in the first place. it is racing fuel. so now they use racing fuel with 15% ethanol. maybe they should try racing on pump gas instead to make this more meaningful.&lt;br /&gt;
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the american lemans series has had a green challenge within its series for several years. they have manufacturer support from chevrolet, ford,bmw, ferrari, and porsche.  for nascar to even come forward to say hey look at us now is just ridiculous. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>big deal. what is nascar saying? look at our outdated engine designs from the 1950&#8242;s&#8230;we are using 15% ethanol now. so what! </p>
<p>just about everywhere i buy fuel across the country the gas has 10% ethanol already in it! it is not a matter of using tony stewart as a marketing tool. it is nascar coming to realize that the new car design is a loser and needing to &#8220;relate&#8221; to the fans in real life. they never use pump gas in the first place. it is racing fuel. so now they use racing fuel with 15% ethanol. maybe they should try racing on pump gas instead to make this more meaningful.</p>
<p>the american lemans series has had a green challenge within its series for several years. they have manufacturer support from chevrolet, ford,bmw, ferrari, and porsche.  for nascar to even come forward to say hey look at us now is just ridiculous. </p>
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		<title>By: Max Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are wondering the same things about the use of E15 in Nascar engines. &lt;br /&gt;
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The big problem will be both the loss of power and also the increase in the amount of water found naturally in E15.  Will they use an additive to enhance to counter these efforts. &lt;br /&gt;
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Bell Performance is working on both of these issues and trying to find a balance for this new fuel source. &lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the post!&lt;br /&gt;
Max Stewart&lt;br /&gt;
Bell Performance]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are wondering the same things about the use of E15 in Nascar engines. </p>
<p>The big problem will be both the loss of power and also the increase in the amount of water found naturally in E15.  Will they use an additive to enhance to counter these efforts. </p>
<p>Bell Performance is working on both of these issues and trying to find a balance for this new fuel source. </p>
<p>Thanks for the post!<br />
Max Stewart<br />
Bell Performance</p>
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