Comments on: Lusting for Europe's Illegal 60-MPG Cars

By: not stupid

not stupid — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:48:36 +0000

I drove all over Italy in a fiat diesel it never smelled & was much quit than any american car .Being a auto dealer I have been in a lot of different types of automobiles It is a simple case of corrupt american politics and gas companies.pretty simple

By: red rider

red rider — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 01:27:16 +0000

… (waits another moment to try and digest all this) Um, apart from the sometimes impolite but [hoped] well intentioned sentiments here, I guess I will have to side w/ the diesel crowd, but w/ a HUGE caveat — I ride to work into Seattle nearly every day [~ 25-28 miles] w/ a friend who owns a 2008 Mercedes 250 class CDI diesel … along w/ this use, we travel in his vehicle another 5-600 additional miles per month … We have a VERY underground [but HIGHLY intelligent] engineer friend nearby who supplies us w/ CMVB … @ an average cost per 200 gallon order of $1.95/US gallon … (while still making a profit of more than$.50 cents for his time and trouble) … Let’s see then … FIRSTLY, w/ some careful research and engineering, we are just a hint above 94/mpg @ highway (65 mph) road speds, and literally STUCK @78/mpg no matter WHAT kind of city driving we do … SECONDLY … for those of you worried about No2/x issues, we are @ a ppm out @ decimal 5 (.00007 %) using averaged out/rpm calculations of 1768/rpm … friends @ both Boeing & Bridgestone spent more than a few hundred hours helping us procure VERY high DRE (documented rolling efficiency) tires that calculate out to ~ 9% / 7.4 mpg of total numbers for any given period. Yes, they are NOT from Les Schwab, but we are expecting 125-175K miles for them …per tire cost of $433.- The GISt of all this is, that w/ some SERIOUS calculating and research, “big iron” Detroit and Atlantic Richfield are a TOTAL LOSER w/ us … we BURN less, polute INCREDIBLY LIKE NOTHING, and are beholding only to the smiles of friends who are proud to have completed a project like this. There ARE a LONG list of smaller issues we had to change/solve, but nothing monumental … we just used a LOT of scratch paper, a small amount of donations, and some very heartfelt thinking and were patient … I can think of @ least 2x when driving, that I tried to start the car when it was already running – hence, any issues of “ Is it QUIET ? “ laid to rest … it is literally “dead black quiet” … and not to ignore the performance crowd, we get ON and OFF the freeways quite nicely and ahead of MOST other Beemers and Accords ! This is a pure example of “ don’t give me that line that all I can expect is 30 mpg … that is TOTAL BULL and we can prove it … “ ~ The process to “national-ize “ this work is by nature slow and QUIET … Let us keep working and we will try and show you ALL some progress that WILL make that AMAZING difference everyone has been hoping for ! ………… Thanks for the ear, and chance to talk and vent a bit ……. :: George ::

By: baffler

baffler — Tue, 04 Sep 2012 15:02:20 +0000

I am not sure if i understand but my input would be...
Weekly Round trip to work is 300 miles.
Yearly Round trip to work is 15600 miles.
My diesel car gets 60 mpg that is 260 gallons a year.
My gas car gets 30 mpg that is 520 gallons a year.
I don't care what the emissions levels are for both.
Burning half as much fule is better for Mother Earth
Burning half as much fuel is better for my wallet.

By: Erniemunny

Erniemunny — Thu, 16 Aug 2012 17:38:20 +0000

Explain how burning a gallon of diesel every 60 miles pollutes more than buring a gallon of diesel every 40 miles. Put another way, how can burning 1.5 gallons of diesel in 60 miles pollute less tha burning 1 gallon of diesel in 60 miles?

By: Gustavo

Gustavo — Tue, 26 Jun 2012 06:09:47 +0000

Diesel is the crudest form of petrol. It should be cheaper, and it used to be. People are greedy, it is that simple.

By: MontanaHeatseeker

MontanaHeatseeker — Mon, 14 May 2012 19:37:44 +0000

I was chatting with a guy in the oil industry a while back about gas and deisel prices. Apparently, oil companies make most of their profit through plastic and pharmasudical sales. Gas and deisel are biproducts of producing plastics. Those biproducts are refined and sold as fuel. If we weren’t burning it in our cars the oil companies would have to find some other way to dispose of it. They should be paying us to take out their garbage! And to answer your question about the higher rate for deisel, it’s a sham. Deisel costs less to produce but the catch is that it is also more efficient. Since the US gets ALL of its roadways repaired and built through taxing the sale of fuel, the more efficient one gets a higher tax. This is also why those 75mpg engines that Volkswagen makes are illegal in the US. They don’t burn enough fuel to maintain the roads. So the next time you hear a politician whining about how Detroit should make more efficient cars, they are just blowing smoke. Detroit does make those awesome engines. They are just illegal to sell here.

By: Baffler

Baffler — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:33:56 +0000

They are really pushing the Hybrids not the Diesels. I don’t think all the green people are even considering the process for creating and disposing of batteries.
I am also tired of hearing how much better they are in the MPG range of city/highway. I drive all highway to work so I am not impressed with city numbers.
Please FORD, bring the Ford Fiesta ECOnetic – 65 MPG to Mexico and i will drive it here, because I unfortunately I don't see it being made in the USA.

By: Carl

Carl — Fri, 23 Mar 2012 21:30:28 +0000

We drove a diesel Audi Q5 in Germany last spring. It was fantastic and we drove for hours without the fuel gauge moving. I have to believe the increased mileage would more than offset any emission concerns, as noted by others here.

I believe the real reason we don't have them is gas prices. Our gas is relatively cheap, so folks don't care. But US gas is about to permanently move above $5 a gallon, and then the dynamics will change.

By: Baffler

Baffler — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:33:35 +0000

I did not know you knew me, however i will reiterate!
If i could get 60+ Mpg in a new Ford I would be buying one.
“Thought it was obvious” Ford Fiesta ECOnetic – 65 MPG
Probably a lot has changed 30 years later
I.E. Cleaner, Quieter, Faster, More Frills
Oh in case you did not understand let me make it clear.
I want a 60+ MPG Diesel here in the USA!

By: Ff

Ff — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:33:16 +0000

Ur a retard diesels are better at mpg and they last 20 times longer diesels are way better then gas cars dumbass.