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		<title>By: The proud </title>
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		<dc:creator>The proud </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not American, but I live in USA, and there&#039;s no greater nation than this country. Europe is sick, that&#039;s why all my friends who liv in europe wants to come here. You are all communists! An you want Obama to become this country in another Europe so all the junk can live without working. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not American, but I live in USA, and there&#8217;s no greater nation than this country. Europe is sick, that&#8217;s why all my friends who liv in europe wants to come here. You are all communists! An you want Obama to become this country in another Europe so all the junk can live without working. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 03:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;A Stop-Start is a Micro hybrid as stated in the article. If you can do regen braking, you can do propulsion assist. In fact you have to do assist. Otherwise, what do you do with the energy you recover during regen?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Nah. A bit further info. from What Car in the UK:&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;Mini is fitting every car in its range with stop-start technology that switches off the engine when the vehicle is stationary, and an alternator that charges the battery during braking.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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That&#039;s it. It doesn&#039;t power the car forward. Therefore, I disagree to call those only equipped with start-stop tech &#039;hybrids&#039;. By definition, hybrid has to have more than one source of power, ICE &amp; electric, or any combination of power of &#039;more than&#039; ONE source.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A Stop-Start is a Micro hybrid as stated in the article. If you can do regen braking, you can do propulsion assist. In fact you have to do assist. Otherwise, what do you do with the energy you recover during regen?&#8221;</p>
<p>Nah. A bit further info. from What Car in the UK:<br />
&#8220;Mini is fitting every car in its range with stop-start technology that switches off the engine when the vehicle is stationary, and an alternator that charges the battery during braking.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it. It doesn&#8217;t power the car forward. Therefore, I disagree to call those only equipped with start-stop tech &#8216;hybrids&#8217;. By definition, hybrid has to have more than one source of power, ICE &#038; electric, or any combination of power of &#8216;more than&#8217; ONE source.</p>
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		<title>By: UE citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>UE citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All those hybrids and partly electic cars are not going to help US that much ,because there are many Pickups,Trucks,SUV or any other high oil  consuming  vehicles that are going to be making our live much harder.From my perspective cars are not the only major human made products that need more research and more development the things that also need more research are architechture,education,garbage waste,Safety hazard and Laws,Nutrition and many more things that it will take me very long time to write.Overall US has produced progress in going green but it is not fully visible on daily basis for example  what reason companies drive trucks to consumers if they only have couple boxes to deliver can&#039;t they drive regular Delivery small van that many are drived in Europe.This is just one example  of how United States is has much more slower progress in going eco -frendly and being serious about economy. Till today i can&#039;t understand why there are so many children uneducated about nature and Many parents are overweigh because the food they eat is junk food and the truth is that over 20% of Americans don&#039;t know how to eat right so you can stay healthy and fit. I could point out all day mistakes and not  understandable situation that don&#039;t happen and are not normal in Europe,but I am not that kind a person.United States need to stop trying to prove the world that they are better and more developed country then many countries around the world because US is no longer dominant country in the world many countries have succesfully overtaken US with progress and technology. THE END ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All those hybrids and partly electic cars are not going to help US that much ,because there are many Pickups,Trucks,SUV or any other high oil  consuming  vehicles that are going to be making our live much harder.From my perspective cars are not the only major human made products that need more research and more development the things that also need more research are architechture,education,garbage waste,Safety hazard and Laws,Nutrition and many more things that it will take me very long time to write.Overall US has produced progress in going green but it is not fully visible on daily basis for example  what reason companies drive trucks to consumers if they only have couple boxes to deliver can&#8217;t they drive regular Delivery small van that many are drived in Europe.This is just one example  of how United States is has much more slower progress in going eco -frendly and being serious about economy. Till today i can&#8217;t understand why there are so many children uneducated about nature and Many parents are overweigh because the food they eat is junk food and the truth is that over 20% of Americans don&#8217;t know how to eat right so you can stay healthy and fit. I could point out all day mistakes and not  understandable situation that don&#8217;t happen and are not normal in Europe,but I am not that kind a person.United States need to stop trying to prove the world that they are better and more developed country then many countries around the world because US is no longer dominant country in the world many countries have succesfully overtaken US with progress and technology. THE END </p>
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		<title>By: Captain Competition</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Competition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When Ford, Chevrolet and GM can seriously compete with Honda, Nissan and Toyota, I&#039;ll take them seriously. The Prius, the Leaf, the Civic Hybrid, or the new Insight... give me something like that.&lt;br /&gt;
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The only thing that comes anywhere near close is the Ford Fusion.... come on Ford, market the heck out of that car! What on earth is your problem?! That really should be Ford&#039;s biggest push, where all their advertising dollars go.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Volt is a joke. A sad, sad joke.&lt;br /&gt;
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Until the American car companies really try to make me a car I can get into, I&#039;ll stick with the others, thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Ford, Chevrolet and GM can seriously compete with Honda, Nissan and Toyota, I&#8217;ll take them seriously. The Prius, the Leaf, the Civic Hybrid, or the new Insight&#8230; give me something like that.</p>
<p>The only thing that comes anywhere near close is the Ford Fusion&#8230;. come on Ford, market the heck out of that car! What on earth is your problem?! That really should be Ford&#8217;s biggest push, where all their advertising dollars go.</p>
<p>The Volt is a joke. A sad, sad joke.</p>
<p>Until the American car companies really try to make me a car I can get into, I&#8217;ll stick with the others, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous2</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Stop-start: Has stop-start system&lt;br /&gt;
Micro-hybrid: Has stop-start system + regenerative braking&lt;br /&gt;
Mild-hybrid: Has stop-start system + regenerative braking + propulsion assist&lt;br /&gt;
Full-hybrid: Has stop-start system + regenerative braking + propulsion assist + all-electric proplusion&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I disagree.  A Stop-Start is a Micro hybrid as stated in the article.  If you can do regen braking, you can do propulsion assist.  In fact you have to do assist.  Otherwise, what do you do with the energy you recover during regen? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The problem is there is sometimes no clear cut boundary between these type of hybrids because all batteries/motors have different capacities and motors are put in different places (on a belt, between engine and trans, after trans, on a different axle, etc) .  This complicates the definition of what type of hybrid it is.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stop-start: Has stop-start system<br />
Micro-hybrid: Has stop-start system + regenerative braking<br />
Mild-hybrid: Has stop-start system + regenerative braking + propulsion assist<br />
Full-hybrid: Has stop-start system + regenerative braking + propulsion assist + all-electric proplusion&#8221;</p>
<p>I disagree.  A Stop-Start is a Micro hybrid as stated in the article.  If you can do regen braking, you can do propulsion assist.  In fact you have to do assist.  Otherwise, what do you do with the energy you recover during regen? </p>
<p>The problem is there is sometimes no clear cut boundary between these type of hybrids because all batteries/motors have different capacities and motors are put in different places (on a belt, between engine and trans, after trans, on a different axle, etc) .  This complicates the definition of what type of hybrid it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Capt. Concernicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capt. Concernicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Anonymous,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;The tire was off the rim and there was no spare. You see, to reduce weight and improve mileage, some clever engineer decided to forego the spare tire in favor of run-flat tires and an inflator kit.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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--And yet the Volt still weighs in at a portly 3800lbs. or about 750lbs. more than the Prius.  Some say that it&#039;s because GM wants the car to have a solid on the road feeling.  Others say it&#039;s because GM doesn&#039;t know how to make a lightweight passenger car.  Just look at the Camaro convertible.  It weighs in at 4200lbs. which is 300lbs. more than the hardtop.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Anonymous,</p>
<p>&#8220;The tire was off the rim and there was no spare. You see, to reduce weight and improve mileage, some clever engineer decided to forego the spare tire in favor of run-flat tires and an inflator kit.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;And yet the Volt still weighs in at a portly 3800lbs. or about 750lbs. more than the Prius.  Some say that it&#8217;s because GM wants the car to have a solid on the road feeling.  Others say it&#8217;s because GM doesn&#8217;t know how to make a lightweight passenger car.  Just look at the Camaro convertible.  It weighs in at 4200lbs. which is 300lbs. more than the hardtop.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 03:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The day the Chevrolet Volt broke my heart&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As the Volt eased down the driveway that morning, I felt good. The gas tank was full. The video-game display on the dash said the battery was fully charged and good for 31 miles. And I was headed to one of my favorite breakfast joints. [...]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Suddenly, a pothole jarred me back to my senses.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Dawn was still just a promise, but I didn&#039;t need to see the left front wheel to know the tire was flat. I wheeled the car into a safe parking lot, where I planned to change the tire.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That&#039;s when the Volt broke my heart.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The tire was off the rim and there was no spare. You see, to reduce weight and improve mileage, some clever engineer decided to forego the spare tire in favor of run-flat tires and an inflator kit.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bad choice.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The company that manages GM&#039;s press fleet sent a man who swapped wheels and reprogrammed the Volt&#039;s electronics to accept the new one. About 75 minutes after the pothole, I was on my way.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But I missed breakfast. And I&#039;ll never again think of the Volt in quite the same way.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110411/OEM06/304119977/1261/FRONTPAGE#ixzz1JSkrxLDF&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The day the Chevrolet Volt broke my heart</p>
<p>As the Volt eased down the driveway that morning, I felt good. The gas tank was full. The video-game display on the dash said the battery was fully charged and good for 31 miles. And I was headed to one of my favorite breakfast joints. [...]</p>
<p>Suddenly, a pothole jarred me back to my senses.</p>
<p>Dawn was still just a promise, but I didn&#8217;t need to see the left front wheel to know the tire was flat. I wheeled the car into a safe parking lot, where I planned to change the tire.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s when the Volt broke my heart.</p>
<p>The tire was off the rim and there was no spare. You see, to reduce weight and improve mileage, some clever engineer decided to forego the spare tire in favor of run-flat tires and an inflator kit.</p>
<p>Bad choice.</p>
<p>The company that manages GM&#8217;s press fleet sent a man who swapped wheels and reprogrammed the Volt&#8217;s electronics to accept the new one. About 75 minutes after the pothole, I was on my way.</p>
<p>But I missed breakfast. And I&#8217;ll never again think of the Volt in quite the same way.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110411/OEM06/304119977/1261/FRONTPAGE#ixzz1JSkrxLDF" rel="nofollow">http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110411/OEM06/304119977/1261/FRONTPAGE#ixzz1JSkrxLDF</a></p>
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		<title>By: Capt. Concernicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capt. Concernicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s nice to see GM just reword it from mild hybrid to eAssist.  GM continues to lag in terms of fleet fuel efficiency.  I guess that&#039;s their peroggative.  But also the American consumer will buy into their marketing ploys.  Sure the Chevy Cruze gets up to 42 mpg IF and ONLY IF you buy the Chevy ECO Cruze.  They don&#039;t really tell you about that.  But again Ford does it with their Fiesta SFE.  Their other Fiesta&#039;s don&#039;t get the same mileage.  &lt;br /&gt;
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I am impressed with Hyundai&#039;s Elantra.  All models get up to 40 mpg.  Not just certain trim levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll stick to my 2nd gen Prius.  It&#039;s currently averaging 48.1 mpg.  I drive 31 miles round trip to work.  15 of those miles is on the highway.  On the weekends I add about another 150 miles and that&#039;s about 95% in and around town driving.  Buying my next car will be hard because I&#039;m used to getting superb gas mileage.  I&#039;m guessing a plug-in Prius is what I might be getting next.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nice to see GM just reword it from mild hybrid to eAssist.  GM continues to lag in terms of fleet fuel efficiency.  I guess that&#8217;s their peroggative.  But also the American consumer will buy into their marketing ploys.  Sure the Chevy Cruze gets up to 42 mpg IF and ONLY IF you buy the Chevy ECO Cruze.  They don&#8217;t really tell you about that.  But again Ford does it with their Fiesta SFE.  Their other Fiesta&#8217;s don&#8217;t get the same mileage.  </p>
<p>I am impressed with Hyundai&#8217;s Elantra.  All models get up to 40 mpg.  Not just certain trim levels.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll stick to my 2nd gen Prius.  It&#8217;s currently averaging 48.1 mpg.  I drive 31 miles round trip to work.  15 of those miles is on the highway.  On the weekends I add about another 150 miles and that&#8217;s about 95% in and around town driving.  Buying my next car will be hard because I&#8217;m used to getting superb gas mileage.  I&#8217;m guessing a plug-in Prius is what I might be getting next.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 05:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Neither Toyota nor Honda are selling anything electic in the US  ...&quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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- Is this some sort of &quot;presbyopia&quot;? &lt;br /&gt;
- I think the ONLY real BEV available for sale in the U.S. right now is Nissan LEAF;&lt;br /&gt;
- All other automakers do NOT have any BEV available in the U.S., including GM, Ford and Chrysler;&lt;br /&gt;
- Volt is just a hybrid with a large size battery strapped on (according to CR: &quot;...when you look at the finances, for us it doesn&#039;t make any sense... consumers seeking value and top fuel efficiency would be better off buying a top-performing gasoline/electric hybrid...&quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
- CR also found Volt &quot;fell well short of its maximum range potential under battery power&quot;, the Volt CR tested ran for 26 miles before the vehicle&#039;s gasoline engine kicked in;&lt;br /&gt;
- Was this an isolated case? Was CR particularly harsh on GM&#039;s product? According to a driver of Volt who covered over 4,00 miles, from the end of December to late January, the average EV range was 26.2 miles when the average ambient temperature was 29.2 degree;&lt;br /&gt;
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- So how about Nissan LEAF?&lt;br /&gt;
- There were media reports that customers reported restart problems in both Japan and the United States;&lt;br /&gt;
- if this problem is proven to be wide-spread, I would rather automakers thoroughly &#039;debug&#039; their products than to pay to be the unfortunate guinea pig.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Neither Toyota nor Honda are selling anything electic in the US  &#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>- Is this some sort of &#8220;presbyopia&#8221;? <br />
- I think the ONLY real BEV available for sale in the U.S. right now is Nissan LEAF;<br />
- All other automakers do NOT have any BEV available in the U.S., including GM, Ford and Chrysler;<br />
- Volt is just a hybrid with a large size battery strapped on (according to CR: &#8220;&#8230;when you look at the finances, for us it doesn&#8217;t make any sense&#8230; consumers seeking value and top fuel efficiency would be better off buying a top-performing gasoline/electric hybrid&#8230;&#8221;)<br />
- CR also found Volt &#8220;fell well short of its maximum range potential under battery power&#8221;, the Volt CR tested ran for 26 miles before the vehicle&#8217;s gasoline engine kicked in;<br />
- Was this an isolated case? Was CR particularly harsh on GM&#8217;s product? According to a driver of Volt who covered over 4,00 miles, from the end of December to late January, the average EV range was 26.2 miles when the average ambient temperature was 29.2 degree;</p>
<p>- So how about Nissan LEAF?<br />
- There were media reports that customers reported restart problems in both Japan and the United States;<br />
- if this problem is proven to be wide-spread, I would rather automakers thoroughly &#8216;debug&#8217; their products than to pay to be the unfortunate guinea pig.</p>
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		<title>By: jwishart</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwishart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 22:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@anonymous:&lt;br /&gt;
You are correct: the author gets the classifications of different hybrids wrong.  A micro-hybrid certainly doesn&#039;t assist with propulsion, and in fact isn&#039;t even the same as a stop-start system, since the former requires regenerative braking capability that the latter doesn&#039;t.  Here is the short-hand:&lt;br /&gt;
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Stop-start: Has stop-start system&lt;br /&gt;
Micro-hybrid: Has stop-start system + regenerative braking&lt;br /&gt;
Mild-hybrid: Has stop-start system + regenerative braking + propulsion assist&lt;br /&gt;
Full-hybrid: Has stop-start system + regenerative braking + propulsion assist + all-electric proplusion&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To answer your last question, I proposed the following definition in an article (in the International Journal of Electric and Hybrid Vehicles):&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;A road vehicle with two or more energy storage systems connected to two or more energy converters. There must be a capacity for energy transfer in at least one direction between each energy converter and the wheels, but not all energy converters must provide direct, mechanical propulsion power.”&lt;br /&gt;
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This definition is worded to include micro-hybrids but preclude dual-fuel vehicles like the BMW Hydrogen 7 and EVs with in-wheel motors (the SAE definitions missed these distinctions).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@anonymous:<br />
You are correct: the author gets the classifications of different hybrids wrong.  A micro-hybrid certainly doesn&#8217;t assist with propulsion, and in fact isn&#8217;t even the same as a stop-start system, since the former requires regenerative braking capability that the latter doesn&#8217;t.  Here is the short-hand:</p>
<p>Stop-start: Has stop-start system<br />
Micro-hybrid: Has stop-start system + regenerative braking<br />
Mild-hybrid: Has stop-start system + regenerative braking + propulsion assist<br />
Full-hybrid: Has stop-start system + regenerative braking + propulsion assist + all-electric proplusion</p>
<p>To answer your last question, I proposed the following definition in an article (in the International Journal of Electric and Hybrid Vehicles):<br />
&#8220;A road vehicle with two or more energy storage systems connected to two or more energy converters. There must be a capacity for energy transfer in at least one direction between each energy converter and the wheels, but not all energy converters must provide direct, mechanical propulsion power.”</p>
<p>This definition is worded to include micro-hybrids but preclude dual-fuel vehicles like the BMW Hydrogen 7 and EVs with in-wheel motors (the SAE definitions missed these distinctions).</p>
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