Comments on: House Republican Report Says CAFE Favors US Automakers

By: Van

Van — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:43:12 +0000

@MMF, you post like a UAW thug, sir. The CAFE classification extends to trucks built in the future. Strike one.

The overblown safety issues of the past are not what those opposed to the CaFE standards were referring to. Strike two

I am a fan of Toyota, but I am also a fan of Ford. I oppose air pollution, but I also oppose those who would hijack the environmental movement for a command and control central government agenda.

Those that defend their views with ad homenins, misrepresentations, and non-sequiturs destroy the the credibility of those pushing for cleaner air and less dependence on foreign oil.

BTW, the Ford C-Max seems superior to the Prius V any way you look at it.

By: Modern Marvel Fan

Modern Marvel Fan — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 06:32:18 +0000

@Van,

Perhaps you should explain to us about all the assistance that Japanese government gave to Toyota to help it survive the economic crisis. Also, all those Trucks were made pre-bailout and CAFE numbers. If Toyota want it, then why don't it extend its "Crappy LOW tech" Synergy drive system to its Tundra truck?

"less safe"? How many safety recalls have Toyota had recently?

Stop being a Toyota fan boy... Toyota is there to make money. It will do whatever it can to buy publicity and polticians to achieve that.

Just like the recent episode of the "Modern Family" where the show did a major sell out on the Prius V...

By: Van

Van — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:34:29 +0000

Thanks Otter, your brief post made clear what the controversy is really about, Crony Capitalism and special treatment for UAW made vehicles.

Perhaps you could explain the charge that the proposed government regulations will cause us to drive "less safe" vehicles?

By: Roy_H

Roy_H — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:30:08 +0000

“That does sound like favoritism.”
Yes, it is and it should be spread across all the auto lines, not just trucks. I remember Toyota successfully sued GM for advertising their stainless steel exhaust system, because Toyota systems rusted out, somehow an American court judge ruled it was unfair for GM to advertize its advantages. I do not understand a country, mired in debt, being taken over by foreign industry, stubornly promoting foreign industry over its own. Working hard at economic suicide, who’s the winner here? Why are they doing it?

By: Tgordi

Tgordi — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:20:09 +0000

Favoritism or not, I don’t see anything wrong with increasing fuel efficiency, which results in lees damage to the environment, less dependence on foreign oil, and less money into the pockets of oil companies and oil-producing countries.

By: otter

otter — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:45:51 +0000

I think Issa is correct. To summarize:

According to the Detroit News:

Detroit's full-size trucks received an exemption that freed them from fuel-economy increases during part of the 2017-2025 ramp up, and Toyota wanted the Tundra to receive the same exemptions. But the rules excluded Toyota's pickup truck from the exemption.
German automakers wanted more credits for diesel cars but received none. Daimler, parent to Mercedes and Smart, ultimately opposed the new CAFE rules, as did Volkswagen.
Hybrid pickups — but not other cars — received CAFE bonuses, which is something Honda and Toyota questioned. Two hybrid pickups exist, and both are GMs.

I have also read that the PT Cruiser was being classified as a truck to lower the fleet mpg CAFE averages for Chrysler.

That does sound like favoritism.

By: Toyotasux

Toyotasux — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 06:37:06 +0000

Screw Toyota. How many bailouts and zero interest loans have they gotten from their government over the years, as well as other Japanese companies? Why does the Japanese close their markets to foreign goods and manipulate their currency to give their corporations an advantage. In my estimation, Toyota needs to shut up and be happy they were allowed to come in this country and take so much market share.

By: Capt. Concernicus

Capt. Concernicus — Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:40:58 +0000

Funny how America political leaders cry protectionism when other countries do exactly what we're doing here.

In the words of Rodney King. "Can we all get along'?"

By: Jim Jones

Jim Jones — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:46:20 +0000

Another pure example of republicans hating American workers. When will the sheep out there stop listing to right wing bs radio and stop voting them in office???

By: Modern Marvel Fan

Modern Marvel Fan — Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:15:13 +0000

Darrell Issa is an idiot. He is willing to attack anything that Obama does, regardless whether it is right or wrong. I don’t like Obama, but there is nothing wrong with the CAFE rules. Toyota can build more efficient trucks if it feels it needs to meet that rule. Why NOT adding a hybrid system to the Tundra?