Honda FCX Clarity

Honda unveiled the FCX Clarity fuel cell vehicle at the 2007 Los Angeles Auto Show, and an announced that a limited number of southern Californians will have the opportunity to lease one in the next few years. This is the first time a customer can obtain a fuel cell car directly from a retail dealer. The company is also showing progress with the creation of a hydrogen home fueling station.

A lease on the Honda FCX Clarity will cost $600 per month, including service, maintenance, and collision insurance. The term on the lease will be three-years.

In terms of appearances, the futuristic four-door Clarity will closely resemble the FCX concept, aside from some minor front-end design modifications. The Clarity will be powered by a hydrogen fuel cell stack—running along the car’s center tunnel between the front seats—that generates electricity but produces zero exhaust emissions at the tailpipe. Functional improvements in the FCX Clarity over the previous concept model include a 20 percent increase in fuel economy, a 30 percent increase in vehicle range to 270 miles, and an advanced new lithium-ion battery pack that is 40 percent lighter and 50 percent smaller.

Okay, But Where Do You Get the Hydrogen?

Honda has not yet disclosed the production volume for this vehicle, but some industry observers expect Honda to produce about 1,000 units. Customers will be able to drop off their vehicles at a Honda dealership for service, and Honda will then transport the vehicles to a dedicated service facility. The company will need to carefully select customers, based on their proximity to the limited number of hydrogen refueling stations. The lack of infrastructure to produce, distribute and sell hydrogen fuel is among the major obstacles to the adoption of fuel cell vehicles.

This week, Honda also announced progress with a home-based hydrogen production system—called the HES IV—that would remove a consumer’s need to find hydrogen fuel or visit a gas station. The company installed such a system at its headquarters in Torrance, Calif. The system was created by Honda and Plug Power Inc., a provider of on-site energy solutions. “Before fuel cell vehicles can have any significant market penetration, there will need to be a viable solution to the inevitable refueling question,” said Mark Sperry, chief marketing officer at Plug Power. “The Home Energy Station provides the means for vehicle owners to produce onsite hydrogen, as well as heat and power, in an efficient and environmentally friendly way.”

Seventy percent smaller than the first generation version, the HES IV makes use of a home’s existing natural gas supply in order to produce hydrogen for vehicles, as well as providing heat and electricity for the residence. Honda claims that using the HES IV to heat a home and fuel an FCX Clarity would reduce CO2 emissions by as much as 30 percent, compared to the conventional usage of grid-supplied electricity and gas-powered automobiles. Energy costs would also be lowered by an estimated 50 percent.

Availability of the in-home system is not expected for another seven to ten years.

 


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  • Nikki

    THis is the best car ever

  • Steven B

    I would love to see this as a range-extending electric car. Or just a battery electric instead. I’d be interested in leasing one, but the closest hydrogen fueling station to me, that I know of, is well over a thousand miles away, literally. Hydrogen cars are senseless.

  • Andy

    I can picture the US Auto leaders talking to the press now about how long we’ll have to wait for this. It brings back images of Tarik Aziz making statements to the press in Bagdad that the US was no where near Bagdad, while behind him, US Abrams tanks were driving all over the place.

  • Megan

    This is fantastic innovation. The incorporation of home into the home fuel station is excellent. But a seven to ten year wait for this to be available makes me wonder if Honda really knows the value of the energy efficency market.

  • Max Reid

    This vehicle is half way between Hatch & Sedan, that may give extra space for the Hydrogen Cylinder, but where is the Hydrogen going to come from.

  • Roy Hannon

    I think the people need to WAKE UP!!!! This technology has been around for many years. What you don’t see, is how the big oil company’s and yes our good old government paying to keep it out. If you don’t believe it Get on the web and start looking and asking questions. You need to start getting involved and STOP the big company’s from deciding what happens here.

  • Eduardo Maio

    It’s about time that the FCX gets in the market, also it’s nice that they didn’t abandon the idea of a home refueling station.

    Steven B electric cars are better for people who have a low daily mileage and have a garage and time to recharge their cars. How will someone without a garage or that lives in an apartment at a 11th floor for example will recharge their car? It’s not viable to create parking lots with charging stations for everyone. Also, if your daily driving includes big distances your’re screwed, you will run out of juice and then you have to stop for two hours to recharge the car. With hydrogen it takes about 3 minutes to fill it up at a hydrogen station and this FCX still has a “hybrid” system, maybe someone will develop a plug-in system for this one like they did for the Prius and make everyone happy *hint hint*

  • Jared

    This is a fascinating development, though the story is very light on the details of locally produced hydrogen. Still, I think this is a winning concept if the hydrogen can be produced with great efficiency ina scalable way, or with many small installations.

    One recently detailed method uses bacteria metabolizing organic matter and excreting hydrogen with a small amount of electrical current as catalyst:

    I used to think hydrogen was the feul of the future and would always remain so, but the landscape is changing.

  • Jared
  • ex-EV1 driver

    This is great. Now there’s something I can do with all that extra hydrogen I have lieing around my house!
    Eduardo, it actually isn’t tough to provide electric charging at a parking space. The cost is about the same as providing lighting. In northern states and provinces, most public parking lots already have electrical outlets for plugging in engine block heaters.
    The deeper you dig into Hydrogen vehicles, the worse they look. The deeper you dig into battery electric vehicles, the better they look.

  • Cori

    As for the whole electric vs. hydrogen thing, where do you think the electricity is coming from? Power plants, of course, but these places mostly use coal to produce the electricity. Unless the power plants all have massive conversions to alternative ways of production then the reason behind the these electric vehicles becomes halved and less appealing.
    It doesn’t help much that it is extremely costly to change ways of production for most power plants. Using a river to rotate turbines in a dam is simply impossible in most areas; wind is more likely but then there’s all that land needed for the large amount of wind turbines.
    With hydrogen if companies start really coming out with the hydrogen fuel cell cars and perhaps if a company even steps up and strikes a deal with a major fueling station other stations will start getting pumps with hydrogen. To be short, all I am saying is that conversion to hydrogen will make all parts of the vehicle industry happy and would be so much easier than handling the problems that would come up later with electric.

    I do agree with Roy to the extent of the fact that the technology has been around quite awhile and has just been kept from hitting the market because of the economics thoughts that the gov. and fueling companies have. But, even though the technology has been around for awhile I believe it has just recently not been excessively expensive to produce. Don’t quote me on that though, as I might be wrong.

  • Arturo Perez

    why only california, the need of those vehicles is nation wide Texas for example. let any one that wants one get one nation wide not only California.

  • Gabriel

    Companies should try these cars in a biger scale. Here in Portugal DIESEL cost 1.20€ and GAS about 1.60€.. The cost is simply HUGE for a people who ave an average income of 500 – 600€ per month.. I would love to see theese technologies tested in the all country. We are about 12 Millions and the country is quite small.. I think it would be perfetc for the industry to see the effects in a economic, environmental and social way in a whole nation instead of a single region.. I really think that Europe will be the real testing ground because prices of fuel are unbelieavably high and keeping rising. In 1 or 2 years it will be almost unpossible for the average citizen to go ona ride with is own vehicule… And, wen it will be more expensive to buy oil fuel than in~vesting in new techs, you will see that all multinationals are going to kill to have the right to implant alternatives in the market.. In an other way, i do think that in order to have diferents options in the market GAS prices MUST go up very quickly.. Ironicly this is what can save the planet future.. Hope that credits of that wont fall on G.W.BUSH..

  • Mateo

    If you think this will happen in America… you’ve been asleep and dreaming, so wake up. With that said, buy a hybrid and vote.
    The availability of hydrogen poses ZERO PROBLEMs. Hydrogen is one of the most common elements on the entire planet. And a common source? Water. What happens when you force a chemical reaction between water molecules? You get three products; 1) Energy. Breaking chemical bonds produces energy in the form of heat, 2) Oxygen – that stuff you like to breathe, and some very pure oxygen at that, 3) Hydrogen, the fuel needed to power your vehicle.
    common science. Basic. Yet the majority of you are unaware.

  • Old Man Crowder

    Mateo, you’re right in that hydrogen is the most common element on the planet. The problem is that it is not found in its elemental state. It’s always attached to something.

    To free it, you have to provide an energy source — usually through burning natural gas.

    So we’re really no further ahead with hydrogen than with natural gas vehicles. Other than the fact that they are hugely more expensive.

  • John

    This is awesome, it wouldn’t come from the US auto/oil consortium. Plug Power will supply home fuel cells that convert natural gas (got that at home?) to hydrogen to heat your house plus provide some electricity (ooops, plus CO2). The H2 can be syphoned off, compressed, and pumped into your car, or the electricity can charge it. Either way, the big corporations won’t like the idea of de-centralized power generation or H2 delivery.

    The US government ought to subsidize this rather than the coal- and nuclear power industry. A lot of Dept. of Energy money has gone to Plug Power/GE for this, why did the Japanese come out with it?! President Bush’s Freedom Car/Big 3 corporate welfare package has just been trumped by the Japanese.

  • Jared

    In response to Old Man Crowder:

    I used to have the same outlook about hydrogen and enjoyed pointing out that the only place I knew where hydrogen was easily found in its elemental state was inside of a star, and that the current (it’s a pun, wait for it) ways of producing hydrogen through electrolysis or steam separation required either too much energy input to make it worthwhile, or relied on hydrogen rich sources such as coal, which emit copious CO2.

    Electrohydrogenesis addresses these issues. Please review this story, it may alter your view:

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16343702

    To those folks arguing electric plug-in over hydrogen feul cell over someth8ing else, go ahead and advicate for your preferred solution (in an informed way, I hope). The fact is that we need all the viable, sustainable solutions that can be devised.

  • phil

    how do you know where they are? you should be able to just pour water in your car, it is a hydrogen car

  • jerk

    how do we know they are reliable?

  • Eduardo Maio

    You have to think out of the box about filling your car up. Ok, you have parking spaces that have electrical plug’s that can be adapted, so? How about the rest? Let’s say that you want to go from California to NY, with a electric car it’s not viable because i have to stop for 2 hours to charge it up. But if I stop in the middle to fill my car up in 5 minutes with hidrogen I can. ;)

    And, about digging up, you know that instead of electricity in a battery you have hydrogen in a tank, that’s the only diference. You know that, right? Just in case, because both engines use electric power, they’re not just directly plugged in.

    The only real problem is the electricity prouction, but those are beeing replaced by renewable energy, at least in Portugal they are and I’m sure in the US the same is happening because we are selling you lots of eolic power plants. Also it’s better if the polution is located near the power stations, we can plant trees to capture CO2 and the emissions will be constant, not like on our combustion cars where we have enthusiasts removing catalytic converters and changing their exhaust systems thus generating more polution that can’t be controled in a global way.

  • Shonsu

    I wonder how much hydrogen is being produced in my sewer treatment plant in my back yard. Those could probably be modified to produce more and collect it. Then I’d have my own hydrogen production in my back yard.

  • joey martin 11-20-2007

    Theses cars are awesome. Becuase of the car i get to spend more time with my family. we get to do more stuff like amusment parks and buy our son an xbox 360. before the hybrid, i could not afford anything. but now i can. since the engine is powered by less gas i can afford more things now. HYBRID CARS ARE THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Preytor

    The interesting thing about the whole “new” buzz surrounding this is that I read an article about this subject like a year ago. Any Japanese readers of this must be thinking, “wow, you guys just got the memo huh?” The information I read stated that Toyota is even further ahead than Honda with this technology and is already testing the fuel cell concept in some Japanese homes. And we can expect another 7-10 years for this?

    Indeed the “big three” US auto makers (I guess you can call them that again since Mercedes dumped Chrysler) would have had us believe that the current level of hybrid technology in Toyota and Honda vehicles was impossible right now and years off into the future. Guess what, it’s not.

    Unfortunately, as stated by another poster earlier. The big oil companies along with a whole bunch of other “special interest” groups don’t want to see these technologies really take root and grow because they stand to loose alot of money.(when in actuality if they were smart they embrace these technologies and use their huge wealth to invest in and profit off them just like oil.) And their are plenty of “prostitute” polititions just waiting to make and vote on policy in your favor if your “contributions” are high enough. Screw the environment, they could care less. I truely believe in capitalism, but I also believe in America. At what point do you say hey, we’ve already made untold billions, lets do what’s best for our fellow Americans who aren’t rich, but are still working their butts off everyday pursuing the American dream?

    All I can say is thanks foreign auto makers for continuing to invest in R&D and pushing the envelope on hybrid and alternative fuels technology. And showing us that alot of the rhetoric we hear here is just crap to pacify the masses.

  • Pedro

    Gabriel has a vision. Test in Portugal! Portugal is the perfect country for that.

  • Maguire

    I love these blogs with conspiracy theorist and Big Three bashing. Feel free to check out the list of Hybrid Cars and SUV’s on this site there are plenty of Big Three options. They may be a year or two behind but this is a long term change. As far as Fuel Cells go, GM’s has an identical program. See
    http://www.chevrolet.com/fuelcell/

  • Ian Page

    Why don’t they just setup hydrogen filling stations at their dealerships, and have them provide services to the customer. Of course this would be in addition to the home filling station. This would allow car owners to travel long distances and worry about running out of fuel.

  • eric

    The rapture will happen way before we ever get to drive a hydrogen car.

  • Grant

    Hoinda needs to pull on it’s big-boy undies and mass-produce this vehicle and put some sort of this drivetrain in some other vehicles. If you build it they will come.

  • Art

    Mateo,
    You may want to shelf you glib attitude. The last time I checked “simple science”, water molecules don’t just break into hydrogen and oxygen on their own (otherwise, every time you lit a match, there would be an explosion as the free hydrogen combined with the free oxygen in the air, BOOM!). You need energy to break the molecular bonds in the first place, either electrically or chemically. Even the description of the home system says it relies on the natural gas supply to the house. Didn’t natural gas prices jump recently and it is classified as a renewable resource? Plus, the law of the conservation of energy and matter would prediict that it would consume as much energy to break the bonds as the energy that is released.

    The ideal is use solar power to break the bonds in water to free hydrogen and oxygen. Then, use the free hydrogen to “burn” and produce the heat or electricity. We still have conservation of energy and matter in the universe. Maybe they can develop large production centers that use solar power to create the hydrogen cells and then ship them to your local “gas” station. Now that’s clean!

  • Art

    Oh, and by the way. Has anyone thought about what will happen when two hydrogen cars run into each other at 70 MPH? Gas explodes, but hydrogen explodes more efficiently.

  • Rachel

    Holy shit, that’s hot. Just got rear-ended today and can’t drive my car anymore. Would love it if I could replace it with one of these. I heard Wal-Mart is going to start carrying hydrogen fuel cells. Maybe the days when I’m driving one of these won’t be as far off as I think.

  • Ryan

    Here’s the dummy’s guide to how a hydrogen car works:

    1. Hydrogen production plant creates hydrogen using energy and H2O. (BP is using solar energy at the first of thirty hydrogen production/fueling stations in the Sacramento, CA area.)
    2. John Q. FCX Driver fills his (low capacity) hydrogen tank in his FCX.
    3. Hydrogen fuel cell in FCX creates electricity.
    4. That electricity charges a large number of batteries in FCX.
    5. John presses accelerator, which pulls electricity from the batteries, giving the car its go.
    6. FCX takes off. (There are some hydrogen vehicles that have had governors installed to keep speeds to a sane level. They can also pick up VERY quick indeed. Think “no gears, just go”)
    7. FCX can’t get far with such a small tank, so start back at number 1 and repeat as desired.

    As far as worrying about blowing up in a crash, know that the Hydrogen tanks and the fuel cells are encased in boxes that can withstand something like a five story drop. These cars are crash tested just like every other vehicle on the road. The fire departments in my area received training on how to deal with a hydrogen vehicle crash. Something to take into consideration as well is that when a gasoline vehicle crashes and the tank is ruptured, it takes firefighters a considerable amount of time to deal with the gasoline on the ground and the possibility of fire. If a hydrogen tank ruptured, just take a few steps back and make sure you don’t like up a cigarette. Five minutes later and all of the hydrogen has evaporated into the air, making for a cleaner mop up.

    Want more info? Check out the California Fuel Cell Partnership. No, I don’t work for them in any way, I’m just a very big fan.

  • lattybuck

    Home hydrogen producing stations are a fantastic idea. Both for car fuel and for more efficient and environmently friendly houses as well. anything delaying global warming killing us all is good if you ask me.
    Only problem I see is is as follows. We know the technology is ready, japan is begining test implimentation on a larger scale in their cities now. So whats the problem with us needing 7 to 10 years to catch up using technology we have already? I suspect the oil companies and car companies will lobby for bills allowing limiting access to hydrogen systems and fueling stations to be allowed on any scale within the USA anytime soon. Corporate america has shown us over and over its not about the public welfare as much as it is about the corporate profits. And short term profits is the name of the game in the corporate world.
    personally I am for this 100%. Professionally I am just weary of the existing oil and energy powers placing as many roadblocks as possible in the way.

  • Ryan

    I don’t think the big oil companies are too ecstatic about hydrogen technology, for obvious reasons. However, you may find the list of members of the CA Fuel Cell Partnership a bit surprising…:
    Chrysler
    Daimler
    Ford
    General Motors
    Honda
    Hyundai
    Nissan
    Toyota
    Volkswagen
    British Petroleum < ---
    Chevron < ---
    Shell < ---
    United Technologies Company
    National Automotive Center
    California Air Resources Board
    South Coast Air Quality Management District
    California Energy Commission
    U.S. Department of Energy
    U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
    U.S. Department of Transportation

  • Norm

    Hey guys,

    You’re right on. However, hydrogen fuel cell technology has already been tested and put to use. There are major cities in America currently using TOTAL hydrogen fuel by the transit authorities. The germans have perfected the technology. We all (the world) have the it, but like you said, Big Oil, Big 3 Auto, and, don’t forget, Big Government doesn’t want us to have it.

    I read today that the auto manufacturers are reinvesting in to electric-hybrids, again. Why? Because it still requires fossil fuels to make electricity. Here’s some good reading.
    http://switch2hydrogen.com/
    http://www.intergalactichydrogen.com/
    http://hydrogengarage.com/home.html
    http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php

    And there are many websites.

  • Greg

    The hydrogen molecule has the greatest energy potential of all elements when isolated (because of its instability). The problem is the energy required to isolate it (realize its ‘potential’) is cost prohibitive.
    Plain and simple from a purely economic perspective, fossil fuels are cheaper even at 3+ dollars a gallon than any alternative right now.
    Does that mean we should just throw in the towel, destroy our planet, and give up on alternatives such as hydrogen simply because of economics – and let the oil companies reap the rewards in the meantime? Certainly not!
    As someone else mentioned, we need viable and sustainable alternatives. Viable meaning practical and feasible (cheap); sustainable meaning something we can depend on and will be widely available to the masses over the long haul.
    There are many great ideas floating around, hydrogen being one of them (as hydrogen is the most abundant element on the face of the earth), but we have to consider the cost of conversion – things like distribution, storage, mass production, etc. of whatever the alternative becomes. When I say storage I’m not referring to the safety aspect, but there are inherent problems in trying to contain hydrogen without it ‘evaporating’ for one.
    Also, don’t be fooled into thinking that the oil companies are sitting around waiting for fossil fuels to run out. Quite the contrary. They own many patents for and are investing heavily in alternative energies. There is too much money at stake not to. If oil ran out tomorrow, the oil companies would be in the best position to implement an alternative, and certainly have the means, and the technology to do it right now if they wanted to.
    Necessity is the mother of invention, and we as a society have become complacent, content to rest on our laurals, lazy if you will.
    We tend to sit around and wait for someone else to come up with a better way, but in the meantime as long as we can still afford to keep using 130 year old combustion engine fossil fuel technology we will. We don’t even have a commercial passenger jet that will break the sound barrier anymore! Sad. We haven’t had a real breakthrough in technology for quite some time now (that we know of), but that’s not to say that someone couldn’t come up with one if they really wanted to.
    Ok, off the soapbox, for now.

  • Mark Babineaux

    Im surprised now one has talked about the possibilities about the very easy process of getting hydrogen from water.

    That is something the oil companies do not want you to become familiar with!

    Imagine having a hydrogen producing electrolizer/cell in you back yard, that is the way to go.

    Hey then, when the world becomes one big consolidated international govt, we could pay road/federal/state/county/city taxes on water.
    Then when you flush the toilet, you could really say you pay a tax to take a shit!!

    Think about this, why is this information not readily available?
    The technology is there and proven. I heard about cars that can break water into hydrogen in the 90s. I think possibly its because we have a 9 trillion dollar national debt that has to get paid and you know what pays the debt===== if you guessed haliburtons brother in law illegal contracts or GM’s net worth, you are wrong.
    ITS YOUR TAXES THAT ARE PAYING OFF THE DEBT.
    They don’t get taxes if we are not buying overpriced propane/natural gas/ethonal/batteries/gas/diesel/ and oil!!!

    To sum that up I think hydrogen cars are a great step towards clean energy efficient cars!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Bob Christner

    I am ready to see the hydrogen revolution come to market. We are all tired of high fuel prices and the big auto makers make empty promises on alternate fuel vehicles. Bring it on!! thanks Honda for taking the first steps. I will be glad to help to make fossil fuels the dinosaurs they came from :-)

  • Roger

    You say “THis is the best car ever”

    I say “So is George Jetsons flying car but that does little for you and I and the people who dream of such a car”

    I will believe it when I can actually buy it off the showroom floor and it does all they say it can.

    They always say “Will be available to the Public soon…within the next 5 to 10 years.

    We were supposed to have flying cars in every garage by the year 2000 as well and I’m still driving a gasoline burner and being gouged at the pumps.

    Keep dreaming because that is all they are offering.

  • Anonymous

    Read the article again, people.

    The home fueling station will burn natural gas from the home’s existing supply line in order to generate Hydrogen. It will also produce waste heat which will be used to heat your home, which is critical in California…NOT!

    So…why don’t they just build a car that runs on Natural Gas? Zero emissions at the tailpipe hardly seems like a laudable goal when you blow just as much…or more…Carbon Dioxide out the chimney of your house to achieve it.

    The point of a fuel-cell vehicle is not the zero-emissions garbage. It’s in having an all-electric powertrain so you can get the efficiencies of regenerative braking that gas-electric hybrids enjoy without the moving parts and the inefficiencies imposed by a Carnot-Cycle engine.

    Ignore the marketing garbage about the pure water vapor coming from the tailpipe. You’ll notice that the sales flack is not offering to suck on the emissions pipe from the hydrogen generator in your basement. Instead, look at the total cost in BTU’s and dollars to drive the car a mile.

  • Shane Adcox

    Just sounds like a great idea, How do you get one? I have contacted two dealers and they had no clue.

  • john e

    sure for the rich but the middle class always get it in the END.

  • aeson

    It takes a lot of gas to make hydrogen, it’s not what you think it is.

  • Mandy

    Yes but California is the state with the most pollution. Does Texas even have pollution?

  • Mandy

    Mm, I don’t know, Mark. I think the oil companies would probably take a hit initially but that they would eventually readjust and try to take over this market as well. Even the home refilling stations wouldn’t be available right away (if ever and they just might be too expensive for the non-rich to afford). It’s possible that the new fuel sources could come to be just as expensive as the current source we have now. I don’t believe our government and big businesses would allow anything to be made in this country unless money could be made for them. If not for the huge distances of places we need to get to and the disabilities many people have, I would say that our good ol’ feet are the most reliable and least expensive (as in free) transportation out there. Seems silly, I know. I guess I just have a hard time getting too excited about the new technology out there since most if not all of it will eventually hit you hard in the pockets, whether from the beginning and/or over time.

  • Joe

    This approach is NOT the answer to getting us away from dependence on oil and fossil fuels. Why in the world would Honda be pursuing the extraction of Hydrogen from natural gas, when natural gas prices are going the same route as gasoline prices? Does this make sense to anyone? Hydrogen fuel cell cars are the right answer to our current plight but why in the world is Honda not pursuing extracting the hydrogen from water, when that technology is arleady available and viable? I urge all of you to not purchase the Honda fuel cell car or any other company’s fuel cell vehicle until they do what is right and provide a fuel cell car that pulls the hydrogen from water. You all can force these car companies to do the right thing by voting with your wallets. It’s the only thing that will bring them all back down to reality.

  • Joe

    This approach is NOT the answer to getting us away from dependence on oil and fossil fuels. Why in the world would Honda be pursuing the extraction of Hydrogen from natural gas, when natural gas prices are going the same route as gasoline prices? Does this make sense to anyone? Hydrogen fuel cell cars are the right answer to our current plight but why in the world is Honda not pursuing extracting the hydrogen from water, when that technology is arleady available and viable? I urge all of you to not purchase the Honda fuel cell car or any other company’s fuel cell vehicle until they do what is right and provide a fuel cell car that pulls the hydrogen from water. You all can force these car companies to do the right thing by voting with your wallets. It’s the only thing that will bring them all back down to reality.

  • Anonymous

    Get over it r-tard, Your point would come across better if you stopped talking down to people.

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  • xxxrockindude

    this is the best car ever hydrogen is an awsome energy!!!!!

  • Barry

    Fuel cell Cars will NEVER work for the majority of the people in the U.S. They freeze up if the temperature is below 32 degrees. For where I live that is 8 months out of the year.

  • jeremy Wolfe

    yeah, I cant imagine using solar or electric power to run a small heater to warm the tank… that’s just crazy! Quit being a defeatist and get onboard with ANY tech that will release us from our oil prison… If you were a little more informed you would realize that energy independence makes our lifestyles much more secure and puts us as Americans light years ahead of ‘developing’ countries. How great it would be to rid ourselves of the mideast quagmire and watch China and India fight over the remaining oil fields long after we no longer have a need for them

  • Norm

    Wow, Barry you must live in a pretty cold place. Hydrogen freezes at -434.5 F. Anyone who does a google search would know that. However, here on planet earth, hydrogen is already being uses in Germany in cars, buses, and even submarines, on a large scale. As far as making hydrogen fuel, it can be made using solar energy and stored safely. A company called United Nuclear (don’t let the name fool you) has already created the equipment. http://switch2hydrogen.com/

  • Timothy Perri

    Rather than use compressedhydrogen gas as fuel, why couldn’t a liquid fuel like Hydrazine N2H4 be used as a source of hydrogen atoms for the fuel cell. Presumably, the unused nitrogen atoms would be released into the atmosphere as harmless N2 gas.
    Tim

  • Pops

    Gabriel-
    It was George W. Bush who touted the need for government subsidies to develop this technology shortly after he took office in 2001. The Democrats quickly shot him down and went instead to heavily promote and invest in ethanol, which is an abject environmental and economic failure. You sound like a lot of Europeans whose knee-jerk reaction to any bad news is” “It’s George Bush’s fault”. All of you should check your facts better before letting that knee jerk out of joint.

  • Norm

    Hi Timothy,
    Hydrazine is a toxic, flammable caustic liquid and a strong reducing agent. Its odor is similar that of ammonia, though less strong. Raw materials include caustic, ammonia, and chlorine, and it is an evironmentally regulated material. It would be a step in the wrong direction. Hydrogen is still our best viable alternative. Cheap to make (if you use solar panels), easily stored, and if a storage tank is ruptured, the gas dissapates quickly because the hydrogen atom is lighter than the atmosphere.

  • David

    It is very interesting to read…but as one exec from Tesla noted, since there are no natural resources of hydrogen and it must be made from what we have, why would anyone use electricty to make
    hydrogen, and then carry that hydrogen all over to use it to make electricity again? Seems more sensible to use electric cars with batteries….more advances need to be done for better batteries still,
    but is it not more in tune with common sense?

  • Jamie Lynn Spears

    It looks pretty slick, but somehow I’m missing something about it. It doesn’t captivate me, it’s just like any other Honda. But I’ve read production of hydrogen for Honda Honda FCX Clarity is more damaging for the environment than production of conventional gasoline. Can anyone debunk or confirm that statement?

  • yodibactum

    Hindenburgh

  • brian NY

    Hydogen is the way to go. With the HES at home not only can you make Hydrogen, with the waste heat you can use it for Domestic Hot water all year, heat and belive it or not cooling. Yes by using an evaporator/chiller, waste heat can be used for cooling. I can imagine large industries that are already using large quantites of natural gas to by a larger verison of the HES and to strip of the hydrogen, use fuel cells to power thier plant, waste heat to heat thier plant and sell spare Hydorgen. Why is it that we seem to kill a good thing. There is a lot of negatives about hydrogen, but most is BS and I bet it comes from the oil companies. Does anyone know what powered the Apollo Space crafts, it was Hydorgen powered fuel cells and that was in the 1960′s. Fifty years later and it seems like we went backwards.

  • Khooper

    It has got style, features and practicality. It has got everything that would appeal to a scientist or an engineer. It has got sensibility too. Not only can hydrogen be produced entirely from solar power plus natural gas (or water), the seat upholstery and door lining in this car are home-made by Honda without using petroleum. It is a Fun And Free Wheeling for all the the auto fanatics.

  • Dude

    Can you say Hindenburg?

  • Dude

    In a crash what happens if the hydrogen lights?
    This car sounds like a Hindenburg on wheels

  • Dude

    http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/
    i checked the website and honda says that The FCX Hindenburg is safe so i guess i’ll believe them ;-)

  • brian NY

    Has anyone ever seen a gasoline car fire. It it dosent happen right away it can happen later. The tanks the Hydorgen are stored in are alot more secure than a gas tank and will be designed to surive a crash. If it should leak it will dissipate very rapidly. FYI there was a lot more Hydrogen on the Hindenburg then will ever be in a car.

  • Jeddy

    When will this finally be available to the public. Are they stalling until the oil giants can figure out how to get in on the hydrogen economy?? I hope this isn’t about lining Big Oil’s pockets …

  • Norm

    Hey guys, hydrogen didn’t bring down the Hindenberg, but that’s old news. I agree with David that better batteries can increase driving performance in electric cars and currently they are our most viable, immediate alternative, however, hydrogen can easily be adapted to reciprical engines. While batteries and hydrogen both require electricity, hydrogen will be the best long term alternative, as hydrogen electrolysis makes electricity converted to drive on the fly.

  • PhxPrius

    Hydrogen is an energy CARRIER, NOT an energy SOURCE. And as an energy carrier, it is not one of the best available alternatives, except for niche applications.

    When you look at overall system efficiency, hydrogen makes NO SENSE. Take a look at pages 36 and 41 of this excellent presentation on sustainability:
    http://www.efcf.com/reports/E22.pdf

    The short version: Starting with electricity at the point of generation, it is 3 TIMES more efficient to send it over wires, through batteries, to the car’s wheels, than it is to send it through a hydrogen infrastructure.

    Then take a look at the litany of practical limitations in this article:
    http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-hydrogen-hoax

    Batteries (especially NiMH) are here now, and viable for those (like me) who would buy a dedicated commuter vehicle.

  • Mr T

    15,000 Kilowatt-hours of energy typically falls onto a 2500 sq ft house every day from an infinite and un-regulated source! Even if solar panels are 15% efficient, who cares. .15 x 15,000 = 2290 kilowatt-hours/month. That still provides enough power to run all home appliances as well as an electric car. Just look at your last power bill.
    Electric cars use 93% of the electric energy sent to the batteries. This means that 93% of the energy moves your car. (Isn’t this the reason we have cars?) The remaining energy is lost in heat.
    But we continue to pay $300/month to OPEC to fill our gas car (30% efficient) and over $200/month for electric energy which is also made from petroleum.

    Is this solution really so hard to figure out?

  • Mr. T

    Sorry, error in my math. The last post should read:

    15,000 Kilowatt-hours of energy typically falls onto a 2500 sq ft house every month….

  • M. Peck

    I sell hydrogen on demand to install on currently running vehicles that will inrease fuel mileage from 5-75% while reducing greenhouse gases, for about the price of three tanks of gasoline or diesel.

  • Hydrogen fan

    I’d suggest you folks take a look at Ballard Power systems. A few years ago, they tested about 20 hydrogen powered buses on the streets of Chicago. They performed quite well for the third generation types they were. They have since improved the concept and now are in use in several urban areas around the world.

    Now, to get hydrogen, there are several different methodologies. Some process natural gas without burning it to get hydrogen. Some electrolyse water. As with everything, there is no such thing as a free lunch. However, with the concepts of regenerative braking and fuel cells, you have a car which operationally polutes much less than a standard internal combustion engine.

  • Anonymous

    too soon for such cars

  • Anonymous

    This is amazing. My only question is when will the government offer a big tax break so that they can start expanding out hydrogen fuel stations in major cities to start and then around the nation? I want to see this car in the midwest by June 2012. People will pay ridiculous prices for a car like this, take a look at a damned ugly prius! GET IT OUT HERE NOW!!!!

  • Anonymous

    No way the future is now man

  • Anonymous

    No way. The future is now!

  • Neo

    If they are using Natural gas for making hydrogen, why dont they use a CNG engine? That will be more efficient that first getting hydrogen and then using it as fuel.

  • Ingo

    I want one!! :)

  • Joe

    BP Solar to Hydrogen gas stations can make these cars more widely available. We need to get away from oil before it destroy’s are economy more than it is. Check out United Nuclear which can make about any gasoline car into Hydrogen car.

    http://www.switch2hydrogen.com/

  • samvm

    A proper ways is A lease on the Honda FCX Clarity will cost $600 per month, including service, iphone 4 cases maintenance also and collision insurance. The term on the lease caliper will be three-years. mcse
    mcdst

  • Track Lighting

    Now that is one bad a$$ car.

    Track Lighting

  • Track Lighting

    I want one….

  • Jerry

    Whoa! Many posts are playing fast & loose with the facts.

    British Columbia, Canada has made considerable investments into hydrogen powered vehicles. Ballard Power was founded here before it’s acquisition by Chrysler …

    Check out the data on hydrogen safety, infrastructure and more.

    http://www.poweringnow.ca/what-is-hydrogen/
    http://www.poweringnow.ca/hydrogen-myths-and-misconceptions

    A truly great site

    What the heck are we waiting for — plugins that never arrive???

  • Amit

    Hey Frnds,

    It’s really awesome. However, hydrogen fuel cell technology has already been tested and put to use. There are major cities in America currently using TOTAL hydrogen fuel by the transit authorities. I put up in Australia and here also hydrogen is in use to some extent. The Germans have perfected the technology.
    http://www.automarket.com.au/new_used_Cars_For_Sale.asp

  • zaid baba

    butiful

  • zaid baba

    butiful

  • talha

    Nice Car Dude……….

  • Rob Davis

    This is a nice looking car and the concept is great, but I don’t for see it coming out anytime soon. I would love to get one though

  • Monthly Car Lease

    This is a good looking car and the hybrid technology seems like an improvement. I would expect this to put Honda near the top of the Gas Mileage Ratings.

  • John from Quebec

    I wish i will be able to have one of those someday. Great car! Russian woem in Quebec

  • t. collins

    The government doesn’t want a car like this because they won’t get their tax dollars the way they do with gasoline. BIG oil will do what it always does by either buying out these new ideas, or will continue to KILL those who refuse to, and who’s going to stop them? Our government won’t because their pockets are lined with big oil $$$$. This is just like national health care. It didn’t happen until GREEDY insurance corporations got their greedy hands on the $$$$. Will be no different in this case, until the GREEDY corporations get their hands on the $$$ NOTHING like this will ever happen.
    When, oh when oh when, will people WAKE UP and see the LARGE MAJORITY of the worlds problems extend from CORPORATE GREED!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I love the corporate greed statement!! LMFAO…. Look companies are designed to make money. That is what they should be doing! Make it profitable for companies to develop new technologies and they will. Make it really profitable and they will do it fast. The problem our government is not doing what is best for its people! Congress has cancer and that is a fact!!!! VOTE!! And not just Democrat or Republican or what you hear on the 8 minute Today Show or CNN sound bite.

  • Adam

    The fuel cell needs to have a converter built into the car that can convert gas to hydrogen from gas or water, then it is used in the fuel cell to create the energy to power the car. Yes, it is one more component for the vehicle but these babies are way more fuel efficient than gas run cars.

  • kuldeep singh

    I love this car, read the article nice written by the writer. look at the photo wow what a car it is.

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