Comments on: Hollywood Pushes for Fuel Cell Cars

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By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 17 May 2011 18:24:29 +0000

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By: blitz

blitz — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 18:38:58 +0000

I think most of you are either completely missed informed or don’t really know about hydrogen, that’s the big H in h20,the idea that you need to create or produce the most abundant element in the universe is funny.If it wasn’t for the big wigs at the top who’ve already spent years and money in gas and oil infrastructure we would not be having this conversation.The real issues were having with the hydrogen fuel cells is that if its done right you may never have to pay for fuel ever again in your whole life ever….The whole system can become a closed system,it takes electricity to break water apart just like electricity gets generated when water is created,by product water,battery to store electricity and then reuse it later,no grease, no motor oil,no motor oil,and lord knows how many other grease and lubrication that’s taken out of the equation.The waste product of fuel cell is water the source of hydrogen is water,if you recapture the water then you have you’re fuel catch the rain when running low,grab some water from your local hydrant and you’re on you’re way.(look up future cars Skateboard).
Don’t believe what they tell believe what you learn….

By: Prashant jha

Prashant jha — Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:50:39 +0000

how is it possible to pressurize hydrogen to nano scale and is this possible and suitable ,keeping in view its combustile nature for everyday use,,plzzz reply to my gmail account. i have a keen interest on this topic

By: Uncle B

Uncle B — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 00:27:46 +0000

If you are pro nuclear SEE:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5384001427276447319 Nuclear is one way to get cheap Hydrogen. Bio -diesel is another possibility, See:http://www.hemp4fuel.com/page.php?2#respond – Hemp Farming for fuel replacement in America – a definitive article with references and commentaries
Sweden thinks otherwise, See:Sweden biogas Runs Buses, cars, trucks!
SvenskBiogas, which produces, distributes and sells biogas for transportation in eastern Sweden. Each year the company takes 50,000 tons of a stomach-churning mixture of slaughterhouse waste, human waste and seized alcohol and turns it into clean-burning biogas. See: http://www.sweden.se/templates/cs/Article____14363.aspx
The reat of our Coal resources can be chipped in with a little help from the sun, See: adding H2 gas from solar power installations to coal by-products makes gasoline and diesel fuel as follows:{The Fischer-Tropsch process is a chemical reaction in which a synthesis gas — a mixture of carbon monoxide and hydrogen — is converted into liquid hydrocarbons of various forms. The process produces synthetic petroleum for use as a lubricant or fuel. See: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090131095501.htm
China is now offering more soluti8ons than problems, See:Chinese researchers have developed a low-cost photocatalyst (MoS2/CdS co-catalysts) The H2 rate increased by more than ’30 times when loaded with only 0.2 wt % of MoS2, even higher than photocatalysts loaded with different noble metals, such as Pt, Ru, Rh, Pd, and Au.’ Another example of innovation around nanoscale materials science that improves hydrogen conversion efficiencies and reduces costs. http://memebox.com/futurescanner/show/3229-china-s-energy-innovators-low-cost-solar-hydrogen-catalyst
Wee know how to make oil from H2 gas, See:The Fischer-Tropsch process is a chemical reaction in which a synthesis gas — a mixture of carbon monoxide and hydrogen — is converted into liquid hydrocarbons of various forms. The process produces synthetic petroleum for use as a lubricant or fuel. See: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090131095501.htm
Oslo, the capital of Norway, capitalizes on shit, See:Free, friendly and non-fossil – biomethane from human waste will soon power public transport in Oslo, the capital city of Norway. http://ecoworldly.com/2009/01/29/human-sewage-to-power-buses-in-norway/
We have some great hopes, as follows,Algae can produce oil. Estimates using today’s production techniques are 400 gallons per acre. The University of New Hampshire is exploring ways of forced production of algae for biodiesel that is yielding 10,000 gallons per acre and uses salty water. Their calculations show that a tiny area of the Sonoran desert in New Mexico (about 9%) is enough area to produce all of the transportation fuel in the U.S. using their production techniques. Already, one company is experimenting with algae production stations at a power plant to capture the CO2 from the exhaust and use it to make algae for biodiesel.http://www.itsgood4.us/biodiesel.htm
Better engines are possible, once the GM monopoly is broken, See:New piston engine!
Directory:Massive Yet Tiny (MYT) Engine http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Massive_Yet_Tiny_(MYT)_Engine#Comments
Natural Gas can be made synthetically
from water and CO2 and solar/wind/geothermal
energy utilizing the long know Sabatier process.????
To make lots of hydrogen gas, and the complimentary and priceless oxygen, electrically should be easy considering: “There is as much wind power potential (900,000 megawatts) off our coasts as the current capacity of all power plants in the United States combined, according to a new report entitled, A Framework for Offshore Wind Energy Development in the United States, sponsored by the U.S. Department of Energy, Massachusetts Technology Collaborative, and General Electric”. http://www.capecodtoday.com/news246.htm01/01/09
And remember:
If the U.S. had chosen to be a moral people, and leaving Iraqi oil alone, and following Al Gore, decided to develop the South Western deserts, with the technology of the times – solar/thermal-molten sodium – electricity installations, for the same amount of money as that war cost, ($650 Billion), today, we would be tapping into the largest, renewable, sustainable, PERPETUAL, energy source the world has ever known. It would have paid every energy bill in the U.S.A. for maintenance fees only – FOREVER! It would be equivalent to an oil field that can NEVER run dry! Low cost electric power, and storeable hydrogen gasoline replacement from the electricity, for all!
After the millions of murders, and $650 billions of dollars, borrowed from our children’s futures and pissed away, with thousands of our own and others maimed and disfigured for life, millions of families utterly destroyed, ours and theirs, we are no closer to Iraqi oil production than the Iraqis are!
The next time you hear a blithering idiot spoiled brat, drunken, drug addicted, sociopath, rich Arabic saber dancing daddie’s boy oilman, stand at a microphone and threaten YOUR safety with someone ELSE’S weapons, remember what you lost America, remember, and weep! (also see http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=a-solar-grand-plan)http://www.technologyreview.com/microsites/spain/solar/p6.aspx
Things are going to change, learn to roll with the punches, or get the shite beat out of you by reality, Yankee Doodle. H2 is here to stay!

By: mjb

mjb — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:20:24 +0000

Correct, the Hydrogen *IS* the fuel, however, elemental hydrogen is rare in nature, so hydrogen for fuel cells must be sourced by breaking it free from some other element.

The "conventional" approach is to source it from Methane (H4C) which has four H molecules and one C.

We still end up using a conventional source of finite fossil fuel energy, we just burn it cleanly.

That said, there is potential in harnessing biomass to generate H4C.

There have been some exciting things done with fuel cells and stationery power generation systems. I believe Anchor Steam and Asahi Breweries are generating at least part of their electricity from yeast farts as part of the brewing process. I'd say the future of fuel cells is with stationery and supplemental power generation, and the future of vehicles is with battery technology.

By: Shines

Shines — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:20:03 +0000

The big part of the problem is that many engineers and common folk realize that hydrigen is abundant in nature and is the most basic element. So the thinking goes - Let's get back to basics and figure out how to use this basic/ fundamental and abundant resource.
The reality that people don't seem to get is that Hydrogen is so fundamental (volatile, reactive, unstable (and not naturally found) in its fundamental state) that it is impractical to use as a mobile energy source.
I say let the Hollywood stars play with their fuel cell cars. Eventually they will get tired of paying too much for these exotic toys.

By: Cal

Cal — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:53:18 +0000

sri, you're right: 3. It lets Big oil to gradullly become big hydrogen.

Honda introduced home fuel cell technology years ago and also introduced with their FCV clarity released this year. The push right now is for the current petroleum pirates to convert their stations to sell Hydrogen. If that happens, then it won't be long before the oil companies are once again holding us hostage. If we are able to refuel our FCV's at home, we would hold the cards. And again, that is only viable if the home is producing it's own power via solar, wind, or hydro.

By: Consummate Skeptic

Consummate Skeptic — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:35:10 +0000

You might suspect this given my “name”, but I do not believe M Sheridan is correct when stating that hydrogen is the fuel. This would be true if we could find a handy source of free hydrogen. Some people would then say that there’s plenty of hydrogen in water. Yes, there is. But to get it out of the water, you have to supply energy. This makes hydrogen in this case perform just like a battery EV. It is a storage mechanism for energy produced elsewhere. I would be happy to be proven wrong. Show me where to get the source of hydrogen for free. Back up your assertions with direct links to articles to prove your point using existing technology. Many of us have heard promises for decades boasting of technologies that are always just around the corner. Better yet, if you truly believe in the promise of a particular technology, invest in it. If you get rich, enjoy a laugh at my expense.

By: sri

sri — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:14:43 +0000

If you compare Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles with best BEV technologies avaailable today,

1. Fuel cell cars are essentially EVs which can charged quickly. Advanced BEVs like the phoenix motor car vehicles can do the same thing today.
2. Phoenix is promising them for around 45K now. FCVs are likely to take 10-15 years to reach that level.
3. BEVs can be easily fitted with a small engine to make them PHEVs. This will help avoid the chicken and egg issue of building infrastructure for them. No such luck with FCVs.
4. All you need is an outlet at home to charge BEV/PHEVs at home. Filling hydrogen is going to require more setup. This again brings back point 3.
5. Building fast charge stations for EVs is going to be a lot easier than building hydrogen infrastructure.
6. FCVs are going to require addtional battery for regenerative breaking.
7. Efficiency is another issue, which ex-EV1 has already analyzed.

Given all this, why do auto companies even bother with hydrogen vehicles. The only possibilities I can think of are:
1. It lets the auto companies delay the change, so they can stick to ICEs longer
2. The FCVs are complicated enough to deter any new comers from taking over and keeps the maintenance money flowing. There is very little to go wrong on BEVs.
3. It lets Big oil to gradullly become big hydrogen.