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		<title>By: Golf Carts</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/greening-massive-government-vehicle-fleet-28337/#comment-26568</link>
		<dc:creator>Golf Carts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 02:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t work for Ford; I&#039;m just a satisfied customer.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Camry belongs in this discussion because it is the comparable car to the Fusion. (Hybrid Fan&#039;s comparison with the Prius, while I understand his/her points, I believe is not a fair one because the Fusion&#039;s capabilities are different than the Prius&#039;s, and the Camry is a fairer comparison since the Fusion and the Camry are very comparable.) It is true that if a Prius is sufficient, a Fusion is not necessary. But there are things that the Fusion can do that the Prius cannot, and vice versa. (The Prius, for example, has a larger, but unseparated, cargo area, so if you need to carry more cargo, the Prius is better; if you need to separate the cargo from the passenger space, you&#039;ll need the Fusion (or Camry).)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t work for Ford; I&#8217;m just a satisfied customer.</p>
<p>The Camry belongs in this discussion because it is the comparable car to the Fusion. (Hybrid Fan&#8217;s comparison with the Prius, while I understand his/her points, I believe is not a fair one because the Fusion&#8217;s capabilities are different than the Prius&#8217;s, and the Camry is a fairer comparison since the Fusion and the Camry are very comparable.) It is true that if a Prius is sufficient, a Fusion is not necessary. But there are things that the Fusion can do that the Prius cannot, and vice versa. (The Prius, for example, has a larger, but unseparated, cargo area, so if you need to carry more cargo, the Prius is better; if you need to separate the cargo from the passenger space, you&#8217;ll need the Fusion (or Camry).)</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy J</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/greening-massive-government-vehicle-fleet-28337/#comment-26567</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 02:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a 6 foot tall 280 male who played football.  I am also an environmental engineer who is attempts to be environmentally conscious.  I test drove the prius and could not bring myself to buy it, I just was not comfortable.  I test drove the fusion hybrid and bought one immediately.  &lt;br /&gt;
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That being said, why is it so bad for the US government to buy US.  When I went to Germany the taxis were mercedes.  In Japan, all of the government vehicles were Japanese vehicles.  Almost every country in the world buys home made products, why shouldn&#039;t we.  Stop attacking the big three as a corporation and remember that outside of agriculture they are pretty much the only industry that America has left.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Lets face it hybrid sales are not going to make a significant dent in vehicle sales for decades,  if US made Hybrids are not purchased the Big three will just return to much more profitable the gas guzzling SUVs and Sedans that will continue to make up the majority of new car purchases for years to come.  Lets be honest the profit margin on a mass produced Hybrid has got to be less than the profit margin on a traditional ICE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a 6 foot tall 280 male who played football.  I am also an environmental engineer who is attempts to be environmentally conscious.  I test drove the prius and could not bring myself to buy it, I just was not comfortable.  I test drove the fusion hybrid and bought one immediately.  </p>
<p>That being said, why is it so bad for the US government to buy US.  When I went to Germany the taxis were mercedes.  In Japan, all of the government vehicles were Japanese vehicles.  Almost every country in the world buys home made products, why shouldn&#8217;t we.  Stop attacking the big three as a corporation and remember that outside of agriculture they are pretty much the only industry that America has left.  </p>
<p>Lets face it hybrid sales are not going to make a significant dent in vehicle sales for decades,  if US made Hybrids are not purchased the Big three will just return to much more profitable the gas guzzling SUVs and Sedans that will continue to make up the majority of new car purchases for years to come.  Lets be honest the profit margin on a mass produced Hybrid has got to be less than the profit margin on a traditional ICE.</p>
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		<title>By: Nelson Lu</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/greening-massive-government-vehicle-fleet-28337/#comment-26566</link>
		<dc:creator>Nelson Lu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And, actually, it does matter how good the car is overall, rather than just the money factor.  One probably saves money by getting the Honda Insight over the Prius, for example (despite the Prius&#039;s higher fuel efficiency).  But one would be getting such an inferior product that it makes no sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, actually, it does matter how good the car is overall, rather than just the money factor.  One probably saves money by getting the Honda Insight over the Prius, for example (despite the Prius&#8217;s higher fuel efficiency).  But one would be getting such an inferior product that it makes no sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Nelson Lu</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/greening-massive-government-vehicle-fleet-28337/#comment-26565</link>
		<dc:creator>Nelson Lu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t work for Ford; I&#039;m just a satisfied customer.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Camry belongs in this discussion because it is the comparable car to the Fusion.  (Hybrid Fan&#039;s comparison with the Prius, while I understand his/her points, I believe is not a fair one because the Fusion&#039;s capabilities are different than the Prius&#039;s, and the Camry is a fairer comparison since the Fusion and the Camry are very comparable.)  It is true that if a Prius is sufficient, a Fusion is not necessary.  But there are things that the Fusion can do that the Prius cannot, and vice versa.  (The Prius, for example, has a larger, but unseparated, cargo area, so if you need to carry more cargo, the Prius is better; if you need to separate the cargo from the passenger space, you&#039;ll need the Fusion (or Camry).)&lt;br /&gt;
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But Anonymous, you are correct that Ford does not currently have a comparable vehicle to the Prius, and does not have one in the foreseeable future.  (I will say that I still don&#039;t understand why Ford doesn&#039;t have a hybrid version of the Focus.)  But we&#039;ll see how it looks with the Focus EV (whose comparable is the Nissan Leaf) next year.  For those who can live with its limitations (which I think are not many), it should save money over the Prius.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t work for Ford; I&#8217;m just a satisfied customer.</p>
<p>The Camry belongs in this discussion because it is the comparable car to the Fusion.  (Hybrid Fan&#8217;s comparison with the Prius, while I understand his/her points, I believe is not a fair one because the Fusion&#8217;s capabilities are different than the Prius&#8217;s, and the Camry is a fairer comparison since the Fusion and the Camry are very comparable.)  It is true that if a Prius is sufficient, a Fusion is not necessary.  But there are things that the Fusion can do that the Prius cannot, and vice versa.  (The Prius, for example, has a larger, but unseparated, cargo area, so if you need to carry more cargo, the Prius is better; if you need to separate the cargo from the passenger space, you&#8217;ll need the Fusion (or Camry).)</p>
<p>But Anonymous, you are correct that Ford does not currently have a comparable vehicle to the Prius, and does not have one in the foreseeable future.  (I will say that I still don&#8217;t understand why Ford doesn&#8217;t have a hybrid version of the Focus.)  But we&#8217;ll see how it looks with the Focus EV (whose comparable is the Nissan Leaf) next year.  For those who can live with its limitations (which I think are not many), it should save money over the Prius.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems like Nelson Lu is working for the Ford PR department ... I also don&#039;t understand why he always brings the Camry into the equation. I think this is about money saving and it is stupid to keep comparing to a car that does not safe money compared to the Prius (in a case where a Prius sized car does the trick) ... why does he not show a Ford car that would save money compared to the Prius ??? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like Nelson Lu is working for the Ford PR department &#8230; I also don&#8217;t understand why he always brings the Camry into the equation. I think this is about money saving and it is stupid to keep comparing to a car that does not safe money compared to the Prius (in a case where a Prius sized car does the trick) &#8230; why does he not show a Ford car that would save money compared to the Prius ??? </p>
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		<title>By: Hybrid Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/greening-massive-government-vehicle-fleet-28337/#comment-26563</link>
		<dc:creator>Hybrid Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; Oh, and Toyota&#039;s entry in the Fusion&#039;s class -- the Camry Hybrid -- gets 5 MPG less than the&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; Fusion. It&#039;s certainly not Toyota&#039;s superior technology that gets the Prius its MPG figures;&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; it&#039;s all the compromises that the Prius had to make to get it to that fuel efficiency, when &lt;br /&gt;
&gt; compared to the Camry/Fusion.&lt;br /&gt;
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You don&#039;t get it. Goverment workers dont need a &#039;bigger&#039; car - they need a car that saves moeny. If you for yourself decide you need a &#039;Fusion&#039;s class&#039; car, that&#039;s fine, than the comparison with the Camrey is fine. But in this case no &#039;fusion class&#039; car is needed - the most efficent car to the most effortable price is needed.&lt;br /&gt;
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If the goverment spends my tax dollars, I want that they spend the least amount of money to get the job done. The Prius will bring you for the least amount of money from point A to point B. I do not care what you compare the Fusion to - it is about saving tax dollars.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> Oh, and Toyota&#8217;s entry in the Fusion&#8217;s class &#8212; the Camry Hybrid &#8212; gets 5 MPG less than the<br />
> Fusion. It&#8217;s certainly not Toyota&#8217;s superior technology that gets the Prius its MPG figures;<br />
> it&#8217;s all the compromises that the Prius had to make to get it to that fuel efficiency, when <br />
> compared to the Camry/Fusion.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t get it. Goverment workers dont need a &#8216;bigger&#8217; car &#8211; they need a car that saves moeny. If you for yourself decide you need a &#8216;Fusion&#8217;s class&#8217; car, that&#8217;s fine, than the comparison with the Camrey is fine. But in this case no &#8216;fusion class&#8217; car is needed &#8211; the most efficent car to the most effortable price is needed.</p>
<p>If the goverment spends my tax dollars, I want that they spend the least amount of money to get the job done. The Prius will bring you for the least amount of money from point A to point B. I do not care what you compare the Fusion to &#8211; it is about saving tax dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Hybrid Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hybrid Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nelson Lu, first of all, I totally love the Prius - I test drove the Fusion and it is also a good car. Which one you prefer depends probably on what you need the car for ... not every car is for everyone.&lt;br /&gt;
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But point is, the goverment has to SAVE money - they HAVE to get the MOST fuel efficent car for the LEAST amount of money. The goverment can&#039;t affort to waste any money. At least the combination of fuel savings and purchase/lease price should be minimized.&lt;br /&gt;
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Goverment workers don&#039;t need big luxury cars payed by the tax payer (not the the Fusion would fall in that category). I&#039;m not saying the need some piece of sh** car to safe money but the Prius is comforable to drive and brings them safe from point A to B while saving money (and the environment) ....&lt;br /&gt;
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At least be honest and call it another goverment stimulus made with my tax dollars to support stupid car companies that made stupid decisions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nelson Lu, first of all, I totally love the Prius &#8211; I test drove the Fusion and it is also a good car. Which one you prefer depends probably on what you need the car for &#8230; not every car is for everyone.</p>
<p>But point is, the goverment has to SAVE money &#8211; they HAVE to get the MOST fuel efficent car for the LEAST amount of money. The goverment can&#8217;t affort to waste any money. At least the combination of fuel savings and purchase/lease price should be minimized.</p>
<p>Goverment workers don&#8217;t need big luxury cars payed by the tax payer (not the the Fusion would fall in that category). I&#8217;m not saying the need some piece of sh** car to safe money but the Prius is comforable to drive and brings them safe from point A to B while saving money (and the environment) &#8230;.</p>
<p>At least be honest and call it another goverment stimulus made with my tax dollars to support stupid car companies that made stupid decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Nelson Lu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nelson Lu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And, if I have my calculation right, the Fusion Hybrid has a (again, very slightly) better power-to-weight ratio than the Camry Hybrid.  But basically, they&#039;re two very, very similar vehicles, but Ford&#039;s got a significantly better fuel efficiency advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as the Fusion not being a better vehicle for every application, that much I&#039;ll grant.  But I do contend that the midsize sedan is a more versatile vehicle than the compact/midsize hatchback that the Prius is.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, if I have my calculation right, the Fusion Hybrid has a (again, very slightly) better power-to-weight ratio than the Camry Hybrid.  But basically, they&#8217;re two very, very similar vehicles, but Ford&#8217;s got a significantly better fuel efficiency advantage.</p>
<p>As far as the Fusion not being a better vehicle for every application, that much I&#8217;ll grant.  But I do contend that the midsize sedan is a more versatile vehicle than the compact/midsize hatchback that the Prius is.</p>
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		<title>By: Nelson Lu</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/greening-massive-government-vehicle-fleet-28337/#comment-26560</link>
		<dc:creator>Nelson Lu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and the Camry Hybrid weighs 40 pounds less (3680 to 3720).  Not a significant difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and the Camry Hybrid weighs 40 pounds less (3680 to 3720).  Not a significant difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Nelson Lu</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/greening-massive-government-vehicle-fleet-28337/#comment-26559</link>
		<dc:creator>Nelson Lu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 16:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(For reference, the Camry Hybrid&#039;s power numbers are at http://www.toyota.com/camry/specs.html, and the Fusion Hybrid&#039;s power numbers are at http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/fusion/specifications/engine/.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(For reference, the Camry Hybrid&#8217;s power numbers are at <a href="http://www.toyota.com/camry/specs.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.toyota.com/camry/specs.html</a>, and the Fusion Hybrid&#8217;s power numbers are at <a href="http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/fusion/specifications/engine/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/fusion/specifications/engine/</a>.)</p>
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