What's the actual mpg for all hybrids?
Created September 1, 2005, at 9:17 pm by Anonymous
For all you hybrid owners out there. What's the mpg you're getting. I'm interested in know since I want to purchase a hybrid myself. Just fill in the numbers next to the name if it applies to you. Thanks.
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My Honda Civic Hybrid gets 45-47 MPG - but a lot of my driving is at 70+ MPH.
Honda Civic Hybrid. Average ~65MPG but has been as high as 69.2 and 941miles/tank. I'm squeezing every bit of energy out of every insignificant speck of vapor.
Some news reports that the prius get around 35 instead of the posted 60 on the window. Sounds a little sad
I've averaged 52 MPG after 10K miles on my Prius. Fairly normal driving habits, not hot-rodding or hypermiling. My freeway stop-and-go daily commute is pretty ideal for the Prius, I believe.
I have had a Honda Civic hybrid for 7 months now and for the past 2200 miles I average 39.7 MPG
in a combination of conserative hwy and city driving and using the a/c about 1/2 the time. I don't believe it is possible to acheive what the sticker says @ 48 MPG.
Peter, if I drive my 2003 HCH at/below the speed limit, I can easily get 50+ MPG. Much of my ~100 mile daily commute is at 70+ MPH, and I get 42 MPG on a bad day.
Do you have the "ECON" button pushed? Does your engine shut off at stoplights, etc?
I get 49.6 mpg driving my '05 HCH manual (life of car average). I routinely get 50+ mpg in the summer, less in the winter. Running a/c hurts average as does underinflated tires, but even with normally inflated tires and a/c on I average 43+ mpg.
My '05 HCH gets roughly 48 MPG city, 51 MPH highway. In the winter, the city average is lower, around 45 MPG, due mostly to my short commute and the car not getting a chance to warm up.
I don't really do anything special other than to drive the speed limit or slightly above.
My observation is that for highway mileage, you should always be able to get the stated EPA estimates (or better, in my case) by just going the speed limits. For city driving, a lot depends on your situation -- length of commute, amount of traffic, number of stops, etc.
after purchasing my hch 05 one week ago, driving 165 miles per day to work, mostly highway. I am getting an avg. 50 plus. MPG>
FEH: Range is 28 - 32 mpg per tank, with an average of 30 mpg.
Who says prius is getting 30 MPG? They must be running on a flat tire cause I'm going 52-55 MPG per tank. Even got up to 60 MPG on a few trips. Prius is just awesome.
HCH CVT - I'm getting 52 MPG after 2 months of owning the car. No stunt driving, just going the speed limit. Best tank was 57.9 MPG.
i have had my honda for one week. right after i got it i did a long road trip, mostly two lane roads, about 250 miles. i did some traveling around when i got to my location.
when i filled the first tank, i got 51.7 MPG. i thought that was pretty darn good. however, i have an 80 mile round trip commute, 4 lane highway with the speed limit of 65. driving just above 60, and taking advantage of slight downhills when i can, i am seeing almost 55 MPG. i was told it would take around 5000 miles before the mileage increases. with what i have been getting already, i am very pleased.
I have a quick question. Is everyone reporting here driving the 05 model? I am looking at an 04 HCH, and I am curious to know if there is any significant difference in each year model. I would hate to purchase the 04 and then find out that the 05 gets 10 more mpg.
I have a traffic free interstate commute of 900 miles per week. So I feel like any increase over my current 20 mpg in my gas car will be worth the cost. :)
Ashley, the 2004/2004/2005 HCHs are the same car as far as performance goes. Rumor has it the 2006 HCH will get 5% better mileage.
See my blog at http://www.hybridcars.com/blogs/hybrid-commuter for yesterday's mileage report on my 2003 HCH.
The year of the HCH (prior to the new 2006) will not make a difference.
If you have a traffic-free 900-mile per week interstate commute then your mileage will depend almost entirely on how fast you drive. But it will be very predictable. My guesstimates for your commute would be, based on your speed:
60 MPH: 55 MPG
65 MPH: 52 MPG
70 MPH: 48 MPG
75 MPH: 44 MPG
80 MPH: 42 MPG
Those are ballpark figures based on my own experience, and from what I have read on this and other forums. As you can see, your speed will have a significant impact on your MPG (as it does with all vehicles).
Well I will tell you actual mpg for my Jetta Diesel.
to work and back every day
@80+ MPH and some 10mins of slow interstate driving with the windows down I get 41-42 mpg.
@60 speed limit and windows up (ac in the afternoon) I get 48
it is a hilly 34 mile commute to work and back. Plus I do a lot of city driving, and tend to accelerate pretty quickly. So maybe go for a bigger nicer car that runs on diesel, instead of going for the hybrid and still contribiting to urban ozone production (caused at GAS pumps, not diesel) and produce less CO1, and hydrocarbons. Plus a diesel will last lots longer than a gasoline engine, not to mention batterys.
I have a 2005 Prius and drove from East coast to West coast and back over a 6 week period this past summer. Well over 9000 miles of travel and averaged 49.8 mpg. Western states were a killer on milage with posted highway speed limits of 75 mph. I noticed quite a difference with gas consumption setting the cruise control at 71 mph rather than going the posted 75. Now that I'm back home I'm averaging 55.0 mpg with a 60 mile daily round trip commute. My driving habits include driving at or slightly over the posted speed, slow acceleration and anticipating stops.
These MPG numbers concern me - I have a 2000 Corolla with standard trans. that gets 40 MPG at 70 MPH. Local in town driving brings it down to 35 MPG. If these figures are accurate, a new Corolla, that sells for about $5000 less then a new Prius is the more "money-saving" option. ($5000 buys about 1670 gal of gas, and represants about 66800 miles of driving!) Of course there's the environmental argument which is substantial - but in terms of overall gas mileage, are hybrids really what they're cracked up to be?
Keep in mind Gary that if you get near the EPA for the Corolla, you will most likely get near the EPA estimates for the Prius. So you will get close to 50 mpg on the highway (I get 50 mpg on the interstate) and get in the neighborhood of 55-60 in City (I get 60 in the summer). So depending on the amount of driving that you will do in city, the 20-25 mpg difference would make up the $5k much quicker.
However, I would doubt it would truly be worth it to switch from a Corolla to a Prius on gas savings alone. I don't think anyone has potrayed the Prius as the ultimate money saving car. If a person really wants a cheap commuter auto, get a slightly used Echo. The 10-15 mpg increase in mileage with a Prius would take forever to make up the 15K in price.
However, if you needed to step up in size (I can't fit in the Corolla) or want some of amenities not offered on the Corolla, like the nav system, Bluetooth, HID headlights, etc, than moving up may make more sense.
I have an AWD 2006 Escape Hybrid. I've been driving it for about 2 months. I have the fuel efficiency monitor in the dash, so that has helped me learn to drive more efficiently faster. So far I'm averaging 27 hwy and 32 city. I've run the air conditioner pretty much non stop. I'm not sure how much of a difference that makes.
HH '06. 26mpg on third tank of gas (app 1300 mi). Expect more as mcar breaks in. Very pleased!
JW
Chapel Hill NC
Gary - Also keep in mind, that it's not right to compare the Prius to a Corolla. The Prius is larger and it's a hatchback. Can you fit as much into the corolla?
This is what makes it most difficult to do an accurate comparison between the various vehicles and MPG. You really need to compare the other factors - Prius also has navigation, bluetooth, 6 disc changer..etc..
Check out the following:
http://www.greenhybrid.com/compare/mileage/
Very good "real-life" mileage input from Hybrid owners. You can drill down on each different Hybrid vehicle, looking at each persons reports, which also have additional comments that help define the conditions (highway, city, at the speed limit, over the speed limit, etc) the mileage was achieved. To me this is the true test of a vehicles mileage, which you will notice is very "drive style" (lots of coasting, no use of air conditioning, extra high pressure in the tires, etc) depended.
Hope it helps...
I would like to know what octane of gasoline the Prius and HCH owners are using in their cars.
Does octane grade effect a measurable difference in mileage?
Prius 2005
Home:
Old city of Amsterdam
Driving to work and back
total of 18 miles
9 miles downtown
9 miles countryroad
first 6 weeks and going
with the flow and 12 trafficlights:
fuelconsumption:
51 silent miles per gallon
EV (unforced) for over 2 miles
per day.
My average in city commute of approx. 30 minutes in stop and go (some highway) driving is around 42 - 44 MPG. My HCH is a 2004.
Truely the bottom line is how fast you drive and where. I drive an 03 Civic HX (high effeciency gas engine) which gets 45 mpg doing 65mph on my mostly hyw driving. A hybrid would not be smart for me at all. But in the city it would. Sucks that they stopped making the HX in 06.
DIESEL: Sure you get a more solid engine with better fuel miles, BUT (and that is a BIG but) diesel fuel is much more polluting no matter how you burn it and it is a proven carcinogen while gasoline is not. Also, overall diesel prices are more than gas on an annual average.
Depends (remarkably) on temperature for us (me and my husb).
2005 Prius warm: 54 or so
2005 Prius cold: 45 or so
2006 RX400h warm: 26 or so
2006 RX400h cold: 24 or so
The RX is very, very new, however--the warmer temps were when it was brand-spanking new--should be better this summer. We bought the Prius last January, and its MPG improved DRAMATICALLY when it was older (higher odo) and when it got warmer. I expect a big difference this coming summer as the Lexus has some miles under its "belt" and when temps warm up.
Seems hybrids hate the cold even more than most cars. :-)
I am planning to buy a Hybrid. BUT I want a Convertible!!! Does anybody know if a Convertible is coming out soon?
Our 2006 Civic Hybrid is getting:
Above 40 degrees = 43 MPG
Below 40 degrees = 39 MPG
We average 70% Highway at 68 to 70 MPH and 30% City driving of mixed speeds and traffic flows. We love the fact that if engine is warm there is not any unnecessary idling, in lines. Banks, drive-thru's, etc., the engine shuts off and all systems (heat, stereo, lights) keep working but no wasted gas.
My 2005 HCH gets about 37.5 in the winter, and about 42 on summer gas.
Econ light is always on, but my foot's a little heavy.
Are you HCH drivers with 50+ driving manuals or automatics? Is there a difference?
How long does it take to break in an '06 HCH? I've got ~300 mi on mine, 10 days old, and I'm barely up to 35-36 mpg, from ~28 at delivery. WHats the deal?
Sue, my wife's 2004 HCH with manual transmission gets 51-54 MPG. My 2003 HCH with automatic transmission gets 45-47 MPG. Big difference: She drives at the speed limit. We did a nose-to-tail 113-mile drive - she got 51.4 MPG and I got 49.9, which is about what you'd expect for the two different transmissions. (See my blog for April 20 at http://www.hybridcars.com/blogs/bloglist.php?thread_id=7&month=4&year=2005)
Sue and Mike, I've averaged mid-high 50's all winter and last summer averaged around 65MPG. My longest tank went for 941 miles at 69.2MPG.
2004 HCH CVT
Tips? Find some of them here:
http://www.greenhybrid.com/learn/article/2-achieving-high-fuel-efficiency.html
They seem to help alot of people. Even a Lincoln Navigator owner reported a 5-7MPG increase over a couple of tanks.
Thanks. I just filled up and figured mpg out to 36 even. My wife has been driving it to work and I've been trying to leave space in traffic, coast, etc. Is this a break-in problem that will correct itself or is there something wrong? I expected quite a bit better but its only got 296 miles on it.
I use to get about 49ish per gallon on my Honda Civic Hybrid..but after getting my oil changed from Juffy Lube for the first and last time it went down to about 40,I do drive alittle crazy but what can I do, I am only 18. I plan on getting my oil changed at the dealership from now on. The right oil can mean alot when it comes to hybrids.
too young, what weight oil did they put in?
I have a 2004 HCH and it takes 0-20. I might be wrong but the typical Jiffy doesn't stock this.
I'd check your reciept and/or call them to be sure.
I wouldn't want something like 10-40 in my engine.
I just wanted to confirm some of the comments about speed, especially driving the speed limit, to maximize mileage. I did some tests while driving on a flat freeway late at night with no traffic, and had the following results:
55 mph = 55 mpg
60 mph = 48 mpg
65 mph = 43 mpg
70 mph = 40 mpg
This was on a cool, autumn evening with the outdoor temperature at about 50 degrees. According to tests I've seen, the mileage would be about 7 mpg higher on a warm, summer day. That would put these numbers right in line with those posted by Chuck above (on 11/29/05).
"Your mileage may vary," but the point is that going faster really pulls those numbers down.
I should have mentioned that I'm driving a 2004 HCH.
'"Your mileage may vary," but the point is that going faster really pulls those numbers down.'
Yes, but it's economically idiotic to go slower. With Chuck's numbers and Ashley's commute, she would save 5 gallons of gas a week by driving 60mph instead of 80mph. She would aslo spend almost 4 more hours driving every week. At 3 dollars a gallon for gas, that's 15 bucks for almost 4 hours of your time. You have to make considerably less than minimum wage for it to be worth driving slower. Personally, my time is worth more than 4 dollars an hour. I'll wait until gas is about 10 bucks a gallon before slowing down.
Jetta TDI wagon (1.9L, 100 hp/177 lb-ft direct-injection diesel, 5 speed manual gearbox): at 62 mph (100 km/h) on my daily 104 km each way commute, which includes about 15 km of stop-and-go and city traffic at the city end: about 48 mpg, consistently. Range at this mpg is about 800 miles per tank with reserve.
Passat TDI sedan (2.0L, 134 hp/247 lb-ft, direct-injection diesel, 5-speed automatic): about 40 mpg under the same conditions (larger car, automatic transmission, bigger engine).
No special driving techniques other than smooth starts & stops, max. 105 km/h (except short bursts higher to pass), no racing from red light to red light in the city.
"Yes, but it's economically idiotic to go slower. With Chuck's numbers and Ashley's commute, she would save 5 gallons of gas a week by driving 60mph instead of 80mph. She would aslo spend almost 4 more hours driving every week. "
How long is the commute? Mine is 65 miles each way. I used to do the drive at 75 mph (120 km/h). I slowed down to 62 mph (100 km/h). It only added 5 minutes each way to my commute. I can afford to spend an extra 10 minutes a day/50 minutes a week commuting; it's not wasted time I do a lot of my work thinking & planning in the car where it's quiet (I rarely listen to the radio except to pick up the news once, and to listen to the traffic report to plan my route in/out of the city).
Rarely does a 20 mph increase in cruise speed equate to a 20 mph increase in *average* speed. In any commute, there will be stops, perhaps traffic, perhaps someone hogging the fast lane at 55 mph. All those things conspire to reduce average speed. In fact it's often easier to maintain a consistent average speed at a lower speed than at a higher speed. When I drive 100 km/h, I rarely have to slow down from that speed but when I drive 120, there are many obstacles that force me to slow down.
Plus, on my 65 mile drive, there's only about 30 miles of freeway where traffic levels permit unrestricted 75+ mph driving (assuming the cops aren't patrolling).
Driving fast does not save nearly as much time as people realize. Even on a long 800 km trip once (that I do every year to pick up the kids at summer camp), one year I drove "80 mph", and the other year, 62 mph. The time difference was only approximately 1/2 hour on an 8-8.5 hour drive. You really have to do the calculations based on *average* speed, not peak cruising speed.
Plus there's a huge advantage of driving slower: the stress level goes way down.
Another point, would you actually be working in the time saved by going faster, and hence earning?
I doubt it. On the other hand driving faster you are taking money directly out of your pocket. In addition that money is *after tax* income; for every extra $1 you spend, you will have to earn $1.25-$2.00 depending on your tax bracket.
Unless you save enough hours, and earn income in those hours, to exceed the fuel savings, there's no way you're saving anything by going faster.
1. buy any used vehicle that you like. Pick a big one that goes vroom and has big ol wheels on it. S.U.V.s are good, so are old pick up trucks.
2. find an old bakery van or a ups truck. just about any aluminum delivery truck has a good diesel motor in it. buy it for 1000-2000
3. take the motor out and put it in front of a new venture 4500 transmission. that'll run you 5 grand.
cut the motor mounts out and put them in your vehicle.
4 if you chose a honda civic or a mini truck unibody import vehicle youre a dumbass.
5 put in the diesel. modify as nessecary the oil pan, suspension, fuel tank, exhaust system, guages, steering, radiator, muffler bearings, etc
there. Now spend another 2000 to 4000 with gayle banks stuff.
now you have a 300-400 hp 400-600ft lb beast when you press a button, or a tame, quiet, reliable, everlasting efficient powerplant that achieves 35 mpg when you need it to.
Gears. make sure you have really tall gears in the differentials because diesels are torque rich and h.p. poor.
OR... stop voting for republicans.
where are all of the Honda Insight owners? what kind of real MPG do you get?
I have a 2001 honda insight (5 speed). A recent drive from San Diego to Reno via the backway (hwy 395) resulted in 65 mpg to Reno (uphill) and 69 mpg home (downhill). I drive about 75 mph traffic permitting. In everyday driving around town (half streets, half highway) I get about 55 mpg. I hope this helps.
2006 AWD Hybrid escape - 800 miles. Takes about 2 miles to warm up prior to shutoff at stops. Short trips (0-2 miles) are worst case which I get about 22-24 MPG. Freeway with hills I get 28-30 MPG. Overall, I have averaged about 26 MPG on the last two fill-ups.
51.2 after about 500 miles on the current tank. Lifetime average should be about 47.5 ( I'll have to check). 2006 HCH II
2005 Prius (landed in Jacksonville, Florida)
50 mpg in Georgia, AC full blast, mixed commute.
48 mpg in Alberta, Canada, Summer fuel, highway.
42 mpg in Alberta, Canada, Winter fuel (high ethanol).
42 mpg in midwest US (high ethanol), Interstate.
Prius is lonely up here, TDI's all over the place, base price on hybrids in Canada 20% over US if take last years average exchange rate. Do the math ... and other Toyota's and Honda's don't have this premium. Probably why if you even wanted one and were willing to pay they are hard to find ... don't seem to want to sell them here.
My other vehicle (Ford Windstar) tracked my mileage swings so I put it to weather and fuel blend.
I am able to get 5 mpg by changing my driving habits but usually just drive with the traffic ... oil field pickups for local SAGD expansion.
I just did a personal record last tank for distance, but not my MPG record.
Beginning ODO 69,676
Ending ODO 70,659
That's 983 miles to that single tank and pumped 13.79 gallons to the rim for 71.28MPG.
17 miles short of the 1,000 mile barrier
Not bad
2004 Honda Civic Hybrid CVT
I am getting right at 50 MPG with my Honda Civic Hybrid 2006. Average since purchase is just a little over 48 MPG. Engine showed improvement in MPG just as 3500 miles were crossed similar to other reports.
2005 Honda Civic Hybrid
for about 17K mi, average 37.8 mpg, most of it is short distance, back roads
for the past 2K miles (almost all hgwy), average of 42 mpg and that's with the a/c on
i know i could do better but I like to speed and accelerate
HCH 2006 CVT. I have got an average of 36 mpg so far. I have gone almost 2000 miles. I drive about 60% interstate. So far I have seen about 28/47 for city/hwy miles. I am bit disappointed as I was told to expect low forties by the dealer, not the 50 mpg claim.
I hope that the increase after 3500 miles happens. It would be a pleasant surprise.
I have a 2005 corolla S automatic and just wanted to say that Ive been getting 31 in the city and about 38 on the highway at 65 mph on average. I guess thats what toyota said I would get so I'm happy. I still like the prius and hope to get one. I just dont like the beeping when backing up. Small price to pay.
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In temperatures less than 80 I can get 50 mpg easy in my 04 HCH CVT. Above that temp the a/c is generally running which pushes the mpg down to 45, sometimes 42. But in cool weather 50 is easy and I've had days with around 60 mpg. So the sticker is not off. I was afraid about that as well, but rest assured, responsible driving will get 48 and much more.
Kumar,
Don't believe the hype. Sure, there are some people who don't match the EPA numbers. But what about all the people who drive non-hybrids who also don't get the mileage numbers shown on their EPA sticker. I own a 2002 Mazda Protege5 and can assure you that I have a LOT of trouble matching those numbers.
Buying a hybrid for environmental reasons is not so clear cut. The disposal of large toxic batteries could outweigh any emission benefits and therefore the environment would be harmed more than if someone drives a regular car. Has anyone seen any analysis on this?
On my 2005 2WD Ford Escape Hybrid, I have had 35.0 mph and 38.0 mph for my last two tanks. This is a mixture of driving in town and highway. The EPA ratings are 31 highway and 36 city. I'm not sure why people are complaining about the EPA estimates as I seem to be matching or beating them. Now if one of these car companies would just get a hybrid minivan, we'll buy it.
Al,
Hybrid batteries are:
a: NiMH, hence non-toxic (as compared with the lead-acid starter batteries in most cars). They can actually be thrown in a landfill - legally if not economically.
b: Recycled, just as are most lead-acid starter batteries. Their value encourages this even more than with lead-acid starter batteries.
Question. I recently purchased a 2006 Civic Hybrid and my MPH right now is only about 36 mpg. The car is only in its first 200 miles, does it take a while for them to break in?
Also..are all hybrids created equal? The disparity of mpg reports seems high. Do some just get better than others (even in the same model) like luck of the draw?
Where are u getting $3 a gal wow thats cheap
TCH only 400 miles on, already getting 37 MPG average.
2007 HCH getting 51.5 average in town commute but have seen single tank averages as high as 56.5 mpg. Got a lot better after around 14K miles.
I just bought a used '05 HCH Automatic CVT from Hansel Honda in Petaluma. I live in a very hilly area. The car generally gets between 35 and 40 MPG. In flat areas maybe better. The car has so little power it can barely get into my steep driveway unless I floor it. Even in "L" the car is weak. Also, it feels "all over the road" and the cop who pulled me over agreed I was riding the fog lines. It's a smooth ride--I'll give it that. But the poor mileage combined with poor power makes me wonder if I bought a lemon. I feel misled by the stated ~49 MPG. Also people are swerving around me because I am driving too slow. I hope I get more used to it because as of now the car feels dangerous.
It takes about 3000 miles before you start to hit the sweet spot I found out.
I drive a 2007 Camry Hybrid, I am currently averaging 35 in city and about 45 on highway, take in mind that i drive about 90+ on highway and a heavy lead foot in city. But if I have normal driving habits i get around 65 in city and about 55 on highway. When my more conservative friends drive my car they get 75 in city and 80 on highway. With my hybrid its all how you drive the car, you can't trust EPA for the fuel esitmates. You just have to learn how your hybrid system works and how you have to drive it to get the best mpg's out of it. I will soon put a K&N air filter in my car and a Tornado Air system in my car a total work price for 130.00 to help improve my fuel economy. They are another consideration to help improve your mpg's. I know they do work, I currently own 24 vehicles that me or my family drive regularly and have seen significant efficiency improvement of 6 to 12 mpg. From a 94 corolla to a 2002 porsche carrera gt, and even my 2006 dodge ram pickup 2500 mega cab diesel. All my vehicles have shown improvement with this system. even though i made these improvements, you still have to keep in mind,that the best way to get efficiency from your vehicles is to learn as much about it as possible and then learn to drive it to max efficiency. every vehicle is different. every vehicles has to be driven diffrently to get the efficiency you want
I own an 08 FEH FWD and average 32-34 miles per gallon. I love it!
What people need to remember is the constant stop and go traffic is what increases your gas mileage. When your vehicle breaks it recharges the battery, when you start from standing still it uses the electric motor and then engages the gas engine. The longer your commute and higher speed you travel the worse your mileage.
As for the batteries, there are still many many toxic items in them regardless of what you have been told. Many are manufactured oversees because our environmental laws would not allow economical production or them or safe disposal of components.
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