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UK Civic v US Civic Hybrid?

Created January 24, 2005, at 9:27 am by Anonymous

My brother lives in England and I notice that the Toyota Prius just got European Car of the Year.

Now - remember that the UK gallon is 10% bigger than the US gallon.- but adjusting for all that the regular UK Civic (non-hybrid) is rated at : 42 / 58 mpg urban/extra urban and
the US Hybrid is 46 / 51 mpg for the manual transmission (both cars).

I compared the European emissions control to the US ULEV. Toyota rave about their Prius only having 105g/km emissions - but the UK Civic only has 115g/km (non-hybrid!).

Something does not jive here - but I've not been able to find out exactly what! Take your pick - is the way urban/non urban tested really 40% more lenient than US city/highway?

The Toyota Prius has about the same #'s both sides of the pond - 61mpg.

Anyone have any clues here how to compare apples to oranges - or cars to cars?!?

Anonymous

7 years ago

I think I have solved my own question here!

I was missing something - the UK Civic has the IMA in it! So its cutting off fuel to 3 cylinders when its not needing them. Then the only difference is the electric motor in the US and Japanese Hybrids.

The Japanese Civic Hybrid gets 29.5km /l http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/civic-hybrid/environment/performance.html

UK one uses 6l for 100km - so that is 16.6k/l urban and 4.3l /100km which is - 23.25km / l - so this is making more sense now!

That means the UK Civic is one nice little vehicle - but obviously having the electric motor in it as well would make it better yet!

Anonymous

7 years ago

There is an article you may find interesting from Green Car Congress that compares four different types of Honda Civics: hybrid, diessel, CNG (natural gas), and gasoline. The diesel is available only in the UK.

http://www.greencarcongress.com/hybrids/index.html

(go to "Comparing Civics" from December 10th)

There also was an article in Popular Mechanics, in which two otherwise identical Civics -- one being a hybrid -- drove across the US. It can be found here:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/auto_technology/1266881.html

I'm not sure if these address the "UK Civic" issue, other than related to the UK diesel in the first article. But it does give a comparison of the hybrid to other Civic offerings which are available here and elsewhere.

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