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    Hybrid/Prius, where is the savings?

    I commute 25,000 per year, and I drive a Honda that averages about 27 miles per gallon. My total fuel cost for the last 12 months was under $2200.

    I have been reading all of the comments on the Prius, so I visited the dealership. I found one thing to be a deal killer: he said the batteries only last three years, and they cost almost $6000 to replace. So while I cut my fuel cost in half, perhaps to $1200, I must budget for an additional battery cost of $2000 per year, taking my total cost to $3200. That's $1000 more than I'm paying now.

    Can the Prius owners please give me their real story?

    From my perspective, I'm better off driving my non-hybrid Honda until someone figures out a better battery system.

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    Hybrid/Prius, where is the savings?

    Keith, this is simply bogus information, probably from a dealer that doesn't want your business because they can't get enough Priuses.

    Toyota says "Since the car went on sale in 2000, Toyota has not replaced a single battery for wear and tear." (http://www.toyota.com/about/environm...04/hybrid.html)

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    Hybrid/Prius, where is the savings?

    Additional information from the Toyota brochure.

    Hybrid-Related Component Coverage: Hybrid-related components, including the HV battery, battery control module, hybrid control module and inverter with converter, are covered for 8 years/100,000 miles. The HV battery may have longer coverage under emissions warranty. Refer to applicable Owner’s Warranty Information booklet for details..

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    Hybrid/Prius, where is the savings?

    That is pretty suprising to hear the dealer spread that type of misinformation. Like has already been mentioned, the shortest warranty is 8 years/ 100K miles, with the warranty in CA being 10 years/150K miles. So no one is paying $6K every 3 years. I have heard of a couple being replaced because of abuse with about the price tag of 2-3K, some of which was covered by the dealer.

    What most aren't aware of, is that the battery charge is kept within a very narrow range of chage (about 40%-80%) so that is never completely full or completely empty and can much much longer than conventional batteries. I am not an expert of batteries, though, this information was provided by others who are on PriusChat.com

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    Hybrid/Prius, where is the savings?

    Everyone, thank you for your replies. I think I'm going to dive headfirst into a Hybrid this coming week.

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    Hybrid/Prius, where is the savings?

    Why ara amaericans so in love with a car that acheives 60mpg? I have a VW Golf Tdi which returns 53mpg & certainly didnt cost me $20000+. It's 9 years old this year & is worth about £2500 (or $4400). Yes I'm in england. So why can't america get cars like this? I'd love to be more eco-friendly, but can't afford to be at these prices.

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    Hybrid/Prius, where is the savings?

    American's simply don't like diesels. I think they got a bad rap earlier, and then the auto industry pushed petrol-powered vehicles. We're beginning to come around a little. One of my friends wants a New Beetle, and I keep pushing for her to get a diesel.

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    Hybrid/Prius, where is the savings?

    I think most of the diesels we see in the US are nasty dirty monsters. For the most part they are huge vehicles. The TDI is the only diesel I considered prior to purchasing a hybrid. The mpg was great, but my personal feeling was that the improved emissions and comperable mileage of the hybrid far out weighed the cost savings of the TDI.

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    Hybrid/Prius, where is the savings?

    The 2006 Prius, has an 8 year 100kmiles warranty on the batteries, a 5 year, 60k miles warranty on the drive train and 3/36k on everything else. The feds are giving a $3120 tax credit on the Prius until the MFR slls 60k vehicles, then it drops to $1500 for two quarters, then to $750. Consumer Reports rates it highest in terms of reliability and satisfaction and value retention. The batteries cost, per Toyota, $3000 to replace. If people question the savings, do the math. Toyota has a savings calculator on their site. Fun to visit.

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    Prius taxi driver

    Have you read of the taxi driver Prius owner first generation who after putting 200,000 miles on it, Toyota gave him a new one so they could tear his apart since that was highest mileage they'd heard of. He still was using original battery. Unlike the hybrid battery, the small lead-acid battery for lights, horn, etc. in the trunk does need replacing like those in other cars.

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