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    Yes, class action suit is

    Yes, class action suit is totally inappropriate! There was no negligence in the poor design, probably just trying to save money since so much was put into the technology. As for me I would far rather have an Excellent seat than the keyless lock, etc., and I intend to tell Toyota customer service this too.

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    Just look at the Prius

    Just look at the Prius chair. It scopes your lower back so that your lower back sinks in. And notice how the head rest pushes your head forward. This causes your shoulders to hunch forward, putting the weight of your head and shoulders in front of your spinal center. This means that your muscles have to work extra hard to compensate for the shift in weight. For some, this may be ok if you recline the seat, but still your back is not straight. For those that value good posture, this may not be the car for you. For myself this is one of the worst seats I have ridden in. My wife likes to drive straight up (without reclining). She developed so much back pain, that after only a year and a half, we are selling the car. For those that find this seat comfortable, please read up on what makes a good ergonomic chair. I know people that likes to sit with their shoulders hunched over. I just kringe at the thought of how much back problems they will have as they get older. Just because if feels comfortable doesn't mean its good for your back. Just because you don't have back pain now doesn't mean you never will. Please note, that I have the Prius 2. I don't know if the upper model is that much better. I am just terribly disappointed in Toyota. A Prius isn't a low end budget car. A car at this price range should have better seats with more adjustments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ;133901
    Just look at the Prius chair. It scopes your lower back so that your lower back sinks in. And notice how the head rest pushes your head forward. This causes your shoulders to hunch forward, putting the weight of your head and shoulders in front of your spinal center. This means that your muscles have to work extra hard to compensate for the shift in weight. For some, this may be ok if you recline the seat, but still your back is not straight. For those that value good posture, this may not be the car for you. For myself this is one of the worst seats I have ridden in. My wife likes to drive straight up (without reclining). She developed so much back pain, that after only a year and a half, we are selling the car. For those that find this seat comfortable, please read up on what makes a good ergonomic chair. I know people that likes to sit with their shoulders hunched over. I just kringe at the thought of how much back problems they will have as they get older. Just because if feels comfortable doesn't mean its good for your back. Just because you don't have back pain now doesn't mean you never will. Please note, that I have the Prius 2. I don't know if the upper model is that much better. I am just terribly disappointed in Toyota. A Prius isn't a low end budget car. A car at this price range should have better seats with more adjustments.
    What did you end up doing? selling the car? I am a new Prius Owner, about ready to lose a lot of money selling a 4 day old car because the seat is HORRIBLE. no after market pillows, etc. are working.

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    Also having burcitis and sciatica

    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Jean View Post
    What did you end up doing? selling the car? I am a new Prius Owner, about ready to lose a lot of money selling a 4 day old car because the seat is HORRIBLE. no after market pillows, etc. are working.
    I bought a new 2013 prius II. After 3 months and 10k miles I started having sciatica and leg pain. Now the bursitis is so bad I have difficulty wailing after sitting more than 10 min. I had never had any previous back pain. Now I need to get away from this car. I'm not sure it would work to fix the seat because it is so low in the chassis, my knees will always be higher than my hips. What did others do? Is there an aftermarket seat? Are other to Toyotas just as bad? I don't want to trade this in on a car with the same problem

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    I wish I saw this thread before I purchased my Prius Four about a month ago. I started having back pain after the first two weeks of driving. It first started with my tailbone now my upper back is hurting also. I never had back problems before. I have the Four so the seat is fully adjustable seat but I still can't find a comfortable position. I am short and my previous car was a Lexus, not sure if that makes a difference.

    I tried an aftermarket seat cushion but it didn't help. My next step is go to the Relax the Back store to see if they can help. If not, I may end up having to sell. The back pain is just not worth it! It's too bad because otherwise I like the car. Whoever designed this seat at Toyota needs to be fired.

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    This might help.
    I just recently discovered this issue in the two months after buying a 2014 Prius V 2.
    Chronic neck and back pain that my chiropractor couldn't fix, because I was so locked up with muscle tension.
    I swapped out a head restraint from my wife's Prius 4 passenger side, and that helped.
    I added a Sacro-ease similar to this http://www.relaxtheback.com/mccartys...FYMF7Aod1DoA-A
    Now I can at least tolerate being in the driver's seat long enough to get to a job.

    I just saw this, it might work and it's less expensive than the Sacro-ease.
    http://www.activeforever.com/obus-fo...t#.VCmtv0sZguI


    If you have time, please contact the NHTSA about this. Complain that the new head restraint and seat regulations are causing you pain and that seats should allow adjustment for different body types and postures. I just got off the phone with them and the rep said if enough people complain they might open an investigation. I know, it sounds like bureaucratic runaround but if lots of people let them know, it might work. It's probably the only way it will change.
    NHTSA 1(888)-327-4236
    http://www.nhtsa.gov/Contact
    I have also written my US Congressmen and Representative.

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    Hello ,there ! Thank you very much for all yours posts refering to Priuss II seats . Thanks to yours complains, and my early sciatica (unknown till know back problems ) ,I was encouraged to swap the seats with something more comfortable.

    After visiting a local car salvage scrapyard I scoped the leather seats from a SAAB 95. I bought'em for 62 USD ,each.
    I made a small team welder + upholsterer , and I used a Saturday day for doing the work.
    The final results are good, my back doesn't complain about Prius anymore , and here, is the visual : https://yadi.sk/d/6wmUMUFLhHtRN
    Last edited by HerrBulles; 06-17-2015 at 12:36 PM.

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    Back problem started when I got my Prius in 2008

    Yeah, I can't believe I've been putting up with it that long either. But I did figure out it was the car, and have been trying to find something to do to fix it every since, because other than the seat, I LOVE my Prius!

    Am I correct in interpreting even the folks with the electric adjustable seats still have problems with their back? I was hoping that would help and was looking into trading for Prius with that option.

    Whoever said the test drive doesn't let you know you have a problem totally hit the nail on the head. You have to be in the car for about an hour before you start knowing there is a problem, and that's only if you have a back problem to begin with. I took a 3 week trip with no prior back issues and developed pain that has been with me every since, so beware!

    Are there any other hybrids out there that are comfortable for those of us with back problems? Something affordable. I can't afford an outrageously expensive car. I get used autos that are reliable. They are not by status symbol.

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    Prius seats the worst!

    I was gifted a 2013 Prius C a few years ago, but the minute I drove it, I could feel the seats would be a problem. Not wanting to look a gift -horse in the mouth, I kept quiet, accepted the generous gift and hoped that I\\'d break the seats in with some mileage and everything would be fine.

    Wrong. After 27,000 miles, my back/hips are so screwed up now. Do not buy a Prius! I cannot drive longer than 20 min. in the car without pain in my back/hips to the point where I can hardly walk. I am 5\\'7\\\".

    Have tried multiple cushion options, taking off the forward-tilting headreast, but nothing has worked.

    I am at the point now of looking into replacing the seat with Recaro seats or selling the car. It\\'s not worth the torture.

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    Severe back pain because of Toyota Prius car drivers seat

    Around November 2013, I bought a 2012 Regular Toyota Prius car and couple of weeks later I started noticing pain in my back but never thought that it was because of the poorly designed drivers seat until lately I saw this thread when I was searching if car could be the problem for my severe back pain. I used to drive a different car for 6 years prior to Prius and never had any back problems. I was even hospitalized last year 2014 for rib cage strain and after some medical tests I came to know that the upper back muscles have become so tight that lead to rib cage strain. This is bad. I tried different medicines, chiropractor, physio therapy and all that I can do but nothing is working as I have to get back on the same car to office /hospitals or anywhere which is not allowing any procedure work on my back and reduce pain. I tried different seat cusions but nothing worked as well. I raised my concern to the Toyota customer care(1 800 331 4331), they inspected my car and said that the drivers seat is as per the factory specifications and we cannot do anything more. I don\\'t really understand how come such a drivers seat which is causing back problems to most of the customers is as per factory specifications and a company like Toyota is not taking care of it.When I asked the same to the Toyota customer care, she said nobody else raised this concern. When I said that I saw many concerns about prius drivers seat in google, she said it was not reported to them. I wonder how all those people who are raising a concern here in this site did not raise a concern with Toyota customer care. As I will not have access to their customer tickets/cases, I don\\'t know the truth .If anybody raised this concern to the customer care and got some help, can you please post it here. I took this car on loan. I cannot drive on this car anymore and spoil my back even worse. Toyota is not trying to help to get the drivers seat modified or get replaced. I am still on treatment. Can anybody advice how they solved their issue with the drivers seat. Do I need to sell this car and buy something else which will have good erignomatic drivers seat. If so, how to sell this car which is in loan? Or is it something that if more customers raise concern to Toyota , they will start looking into it and give some help?? Can anybody advice?

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