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    THE EV ADVANTAGE

    Its been about a year ago that I ordered my FWD Ford Escape Hybrid. The first thing I did was get on the web and try to find all the information I could about the FEH. Hybridcars.com was a great place to talk to people that slowly started to receive theirs units. Got mine Feb. 14, 05 and right from the start, I was driving in Electric Vehicle. Top speed in EV was about 31mph then and I could go about 1.3 miles before the engine would start and recharge the battery. Driving in EV and a light foot got me 40mpg, far better than I expected from this new vehicle.

    With a little over 15,000 miles, I'm getting much better mileage with a lot less work. There is no question in my mine that the Ford Escape Hybrid has "THE EV ADVANTAGE" over other Hybrids. Not to take anything from the other great Hybrids, but if you want to drive electric, buy a FEH.

    Top speed after break in is about 38mph. The cruise control can be set on flat roads at 35mph in EV now. Range at that speed in cruise is between 1.3 to 1.6 miles till the engine (ICE) starts. Range can increase at slower speeds and no cruise.

    The ICE can recharge the battery in about 1.8 to 2.0 miles at 35mph. However, recently (the last few months), many FEH owners have discovered ways to greatly shorten that distance to recharge the battery. Thats right, the FEH can recharge itself with the regenerative system without the brakes. This shortens the time and distance that the ICE has to run. More important, as the ICE begins to recharge a drained battery, it consumes gas at a faster rate (21mpg @ 31mph). Near the end of recharging the battery, the ICE is getting about 36mpg @ 31mph. Granted Ford designed the system to burn a smaller amount of fuel at a slower rate near a full battery as most drivers would only use EV for short take offs and parking lots. When you drain the battery and the ICE starts, it still has a big percentage of charge left but the FEH computer system will not let you tap it.

    There are three ways to use the regenerative system without the brakes to recharge the battery. The regenerative system uses the moving tires and axles to turn the generator which charges the battery. I've given them names for ease of explaining them each time.

    1. "THE LOW GEAR ADVANTAGE" (LGA)
    2. "THE FAKE SHIFT" (FS)
    3. "THE FAKE SPEED SHIFT" (FSS)

    When using these methods, refer to:

    4. "THE EV ADVANTAGE" (EVA)

    The LGA is a method of shutting down the ICE below 40mph, setting the cruise between 30-35mph and using the tires and axles energy to charge the battery at any speed below 100mph. Placing the gear shifter in "L" and letting off the gas pedal will allow this. The cruise should be preset between 30-35mph (depending on your FEH EV top speed) with the ICE running on flat roads. Increase speed to 43mph, shift to "L" as you let off the gas. ICE will shut off at 40mph. Coast to preset cruise. If the ICE starts, try a lower setting and repeat. If you need to charge the battery, use "L" when slowing or stopping.

    The FS and FSS is a way to charge the battery and lower the RPM's. As you let off the gas, the tires and the axles will also shoot a charge into the battery. This can be seen by the charge/asist gauge. The reason I call this a fake shift is because you simulate letting off the gas long enough to drop RPM's and change a gear in a manual tranny. In the FEH, I use this to keep the RPM's from running away as you try to increase speed. I try to stay under 2,000 RPM as much as posible. The FSS is a way to keep the same speed but pump fast charges into a drained battery. Example, the ICE kicks on to recharge to battery at 35mph, let off the gas like you do with a fake shift but just maintain 35mph repeating fake shifts one after another till the battery is full or a point you want to go back to EV. You don't have to increase the RPM above where you were at 35mph. Always apply gas slowly to conserve fuel.
    This method can cut recharge time and reduce recharge distance from 1.8 miles to 1.3 miles.

    GaryG

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    THE EV ADVANTAGE

    I would be interested if anyone can reproduce this. This looks like an ad.

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    THE EV ADVANTAGE

    I thought I'd share this info on Hybridcars.com to help FEH owners boost mpg Doc. Its all true, check out Greenhybrids.com. This is what you can pick up from a great bunch on that forum. Not everyone will drive EV like me, but very few can get over 44mpg in a FEH either.

    GaryG

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    THE EV ADVANTAGE

    Didn't mean to offend, but this is the first I have seen for the milage in the FEH. I am looking at the prius, but at that milage the FEH is much more appealing.

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    THE EV ADVANTAGE

    Doc, this is without the A/C or defrost. You can get 28-34mpg without serious EV driving. I make it a point to drive roads with low speed limits and traffic when I can.

    An example of my driving this pass week which I filled up yesterday and got 41.49mpg on the tank. I drove the coast line here in South Florida on my commute of 40miles a day. I drive EV till the battery drains and start a recharge with the ICE and LGA for charging. I just discoverd and tested the Fake Speed Shift and found the great results a few days ago so I would not count that in this tank.I've been using the Fake Shift since it was new.

    During this tank, I drove with some A/C and some freeway because my wife and kid like to get where their going and get back in a hurry. Most of the driving was my commute which I can get close to 60mpg average. The other driving brings my average tank down but 41.49 is much better than most.

    The point of my post is to let people know you can get from point A to point B and back if you choose using EV, charge, EV charge over and over. I do it every day. If I didn't have to mix up my driving, I could get 55-60mpg in my FEH driving EV like this only.

    GaryG

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    THE EV ADVANTAGE

    Note to all readers. Gary is clearly doing what I would call "Extreme driving". This is in no way "Normal Driving" and few people on this list are in a position where they can hope to get anywhere near this kind of mileage.

    The slow speeds he's travelling at reduce affect of the 'barn-door' aerodynamics of the FEG so I'm not surprised at this performance. Doing the same kind of Extreme driving, you'll probably get about 80 mpg with a Prius or HCH.

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    THE EV ADVANTAGE

    Ex-ev1 driver, that's not true. It seems you have a problem with the truth. If I owned a Prius or a Honda, I would drive it to the max when I could in the area it would get its best mpg. There are those areas in all Hybrids where they can't shine and the mileage drops. For the Honda, its in the city. For the prius, its on the highway. For the Escape Hybrid, you get the biggest choice. This BS that you pull of 80mpg come from where? Your an idiot with a problem.

    Now tell us how a prius or a Honda will get 80mpg you fool!

    GaryG

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    THE EV ADVANTAGE

    Chill, GaryG. There's folks reporting here who have gotten 100 MPG with Priuses by driving 35 MPH on the freeway...and got flamed for it.

    My HCH gets 40 MPG at 80 MPH for hours on end, and 80 MPG at 40 MPH for short runs (but I'm not patient enough to do 40 MPH for very long....).

    Honda Civic Hybrids don't have an EV mode, so I can't do what you're doing with your FEH - but it sounds like fun.

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    THE EV ADVANTAGE

    Paul, don't the 06 HCHs have an EV mode?

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    THE EV ADVANTAGE

    Doc, yes they do, according to what I've read. The electric motor/generator is still hard-splined on the engine's output shaft - the engine "freewheels" by opening valves, which has got to be a drag.

    But my 2003 HCH definitely doesn't have an EV mode.

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