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  1. #231
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    Diesel vs. Hybrid: A Point Missed

    I wonder what the range of the EV1 would have been for a hypermiler? 200 miles? 300 miles?

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  3. #232
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    Diesel vs. Hybrid: A Point Missed

    exEV1:
    Check out this link:
    http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX?14@@.f0ca82a/173

    -Steve

  4. #233
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    Diesel vs. Hybrid: A Point Missed

    The original PbA (lead acid) EV1's only got about 60 miles per charge and were limiting, the Gen2's had NiMH batteries and got the 120+ mile range. If you've got a 100 mile daily, commute, I am sorry. Were 120 mile EV's available, you could possibly top off a bit at work. I worked in 5 buildings in 3 cities during the time I had an EV1. One building was only 1/2 mile from a public charger, the rest less than a couple of blocks. That was in California. If cars are available, chargers can be installed.
    The best mileage on a Gen2 I ever did was 140 miles (135 of them on the freeway). I believe the record was around 180 miles.
    The range of the EV1 was a soft thing. Even when 'empty', you could still crawl a long way (20+ miles) at under 35 mph (kind of like a golf cart). It screamed and yelled at you but it wouldn't let you down.
    Today's Lithium batteries, of course can offer ranges up to 300 miles on a charge.
    By the way, charging time seldom approached 6 hours excepte for the time I went 20 miles past empty on a very hot day (I think it was just part of the punishment). With a 220 volt charger, one charged at about 25 miles per hour (4 hours to go 100 miles). Charging time is mainly limited to the power available. Commercial chargers could charge in less than an hour easily but houses are normally limited to 240 volts/30 amps.

  5. #234
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    Diesel vs. Hybrid: A Point Missed

    Ex_ev driver...I dont think you understood my write
    up...I said most people need an electric car for
    commutes of less than 50 miles. I NEVER wrote
    that they cannot or should not be able to go further.
    An electric car with a short range would likely be
    cheaper than a 300mile range car.
    Beside a PV sunroof there should be a small generator available to take along

  6. #235
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    Diesel vs. Hybrid: A Point Missed

    I understand.
    I assume you're referring to a DIESEL generator no doubt :-)

  7. #236
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    Diesel vs. Hybrid: A Point Missed

    LOL...no in this case a gasoline generator just to
    be used when out of range or where there are no
    outlets available. But I would want my other car to
    be a diesel...like this one except I would prefer
    the steering wheel on the left side

    http://irishcar.com/opelvectra22dtrbb.htm

  8. #237
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    Diesel vs. Hybrid: A Point Missed

    Some how "name" does not show up in blog...but
    it was supposed to be signed "Bjorn"

  9. #238
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    Diesel vs. Hybrid: A Point Missed

    "LOL...no in this case a gasoline generator just to
    be used when out of range or where there are no
    outlets available"

    Something similar to a plug-in hybrid?
    :-)

  10. #239
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    Diesel vs. Hybrid: A Point Missed

    exEV1 driver, I hope you don't mind if I copied/pasted your whole response to my earlier EV1 data sheet posting here.

    If you wish, you can view it here:
    http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX?14@@.f0ca82a/177

    Thanks in advance
    -Steve

  11. #240
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    Diesel vs. Hybrid: A Point Missed

    Hot Georgia,

    Keep spreading the word. The more truth (good and bad) that gets out there, the better!

    Thanks for cross posting.

    BTW, I just test drove an awesome new pure EV today. Stay tuned for a new topic with details soon.

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