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Replacing headlight bulb on Prius

Created August 29, 2006, at 1:12 pm by Anonymous

Crazy about my '04 Prius . . . until this week.
A month ago, the passenger side headlight blew out. The parts guy at the dealer just stuck a new one in, in 5 minutes.
This week, the driver's side headlight went out, and I was told that the bumper needs to be removed so they can then remove the fusebox, and then to the bulb. Cost? (Take a breath.) $196. (You read that right!)
Is this actually the case or am I being taken for a pidgeon here? Do you think I could get my "regular" mechanic to do this? Any thoughts out there?
-Larry G

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4 years ago

I want to change out my 2001 Prius headlights for a more powerful bulb.

Will I have to take off the bumper as above or can I do this at home.?

What brand/make of bulb can I use to get mor elight on the road. I know
that lumens/candlepower is the better measure of the amount light that
get put out.

I have googled for bright bulbs and think that I want a PIAA HID for a replacement bulb.

Suggestions or answers ?

thanks

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4 years ago

I can only speak to the 2008 Prius.

I have the factory shop manuals. The proceedure for changing a headlight
is:

Remove fender well trim ( a few screws)
Remove front bumper COVER (not the bumper- the plastic cover)
About 14 screws. Mostly on the underside, get a creeper, and a few
on the top.

Remove the (left or right side) Headlight assembly ( a couple more screws).
One assembly contains the headlight, turn signal and running light. Unplug
the electrical connector from the assembly. All bulbs remove from the back
of the headlight assembly. Headlight is held in place by bail wire, smaller
bulbs are 1/4 turn.

I don't see anything here you can't do yourself in under 1/2 hour with just a #2 phillips screwdriver.

RW

3 years ago

I have a 2006 Prius. The driver side head light goes out now and then as I am driving. It is unpredictable. If I turn the lights off and then back on, the light works again.
The dealer said that it will cost about $450 to replace it. Does anyone have any idea what is wrong with it. It doesn't seem to be getting worse over time, and it does not go off too often.

Barbara

3 years ago

I have a 2006 Prius. Last September (at 46k miles) one head light went out but when I turned my lights off and on it would come back on. In replacing this bulb the cost at the dealership would have been $300. The Service Dept. thought it equally ridiculous that the bulb would go out so soon (no longer under headlamp warranty, of course). They paid for the replacement, minus the $50. deductible. A week later, the other headlight went out. The dealership paid for that bulb completely.
I am now at 70k miles and have a headlight again winking at oncoming traffic. I bet the dealership doesn't replace it this time. I'm starting to sense a pattern here that could prove to be very expensive.

Chris Stokes

3 years ago

I just replaced one at the dealership for $347, now the other is going. Yes, there is a pattern and someone is losing. Prius owners like you and I.

john barton

3 years ago

All bulbs remove from the back
of the headlight assembly.
http://usautolighting.com

Chris Murphy

3 years ago

Please refer to http://www.wikihow.com/Replace-Headlight-Bulb-on-2005-Prius Those directions are for replacing the drivers side. My passenger side just blew out this week, I guess I'll be listing step by step directions for that.

Jim McMahon

3 years ago

The wikihow article posted by Chris worked perfectly. The only frustating part is the lack of visibility, most of the procedure has to be done by feel. Thanks for the link Chris!

Marcie Latham

3 years ago

We got all the way down to the spring clip and can't seem to get it off. Is it open at the top? what was the trick to getting it loose?

Oh yea 350 is ridiculous. Cost of any dealership work with Toyota and their refusal to certify or teach mechanics that aren't at dealerships is my biggest gripe with the Prius. since I drive my vehicals 2 - 3 hundred thousand miles being able to get my local mechanic to work on them is pretty important.

Shelllvis

3 years ago

I just experienced EXACTLY what everyone is posting about: a Great Car with crappy headlights. This is called a PRODUCT DEFECT. The dealership blew smoke up my "tail-pipe", and quoted me $367 for a LIGHT BULB!!! ?????

What are they smoking????

This calls for a class action suit, or a cumulated message to Toyota to own up to 1) their headlight production problem, or 2) their crappy quality control; or 3) their deceptive trade practices.

This is the sort of lame answer that Cheverolet gave when 25% of all corvairs sold rolled over and killed someone.

This is Corporate Gobbldy Gook.

This is "Sugar Honey Iced Tea"!

As for me, I love my Prius, but I want new headlights that work.

Please reply to me at shelllvis@yahoo.com

.

I will cumulate the responses and send them to every major US newspaper and to Congress and to DOT and we WILL Force a recall.

You anbd I will get our defective headlights replaced. FREE! Again, I LOVE my Prius, but I don't like getting smoke blown up my tail pipe.

If we unite and fight back, we will have justice.

shelllvis@yahoo.com

Tom Mac Mullin

3 years ago

I, too, have a 2006 Prius. My version was package 7 (bluetooth, GPS, Leather the works) So, my head lamps are the most expensive - HID (high intensity discharge) I was quoted about $1000 for mine to be replaced. Obviously I will live with flipping my headlights off and on. However, I will add, I have been stopped over 7 times by the police and have gotten warings all but once. The last one was by the Mass State Police which I will fight as the only reason I was stopped was for "defective equipment" since my right light (passenger side) was out. The head lamp is not defective though as I can easily resolve by simply turning off then on the lights and they appear to work fine for a few minutes, at best. then they it will go out again. This problem is very consistent.

Al L.

3 years ago

I just had to replace driver side light and dealer wanted $459! I have 42,000 on my prius so wasn't covered under extended warranty. I complained to dealer and they are going to replace for $100. I couldn't believe it! But I will have to suck it up and pay the 100. Pep boys has a regular bulb that would work for $10. Next time I will have to go with that even though it isn't the high intensity.

Lisa

3 years ago

I too went to have my right side headlight bulb replaced today with one that I had purchased from an auto parts store. They looked up the make and model to get the part #. The cost of the bulb was $8.55. I then followed the diretions in the owners manual to replace the bulb but still couldn't reach it. I made an appointment to go to the dealer and was informed that it was not the correct bulb and I too needed an HID bulb which would cost me $300.00, which did not include labor and was told it is not covered under my extended warranty. They would not put the other bulb in the car for me and told me it is still working just at a different intensity and that the bulb may be on it way to burning out. It works intermiitently.

Bill Freedmon

3 years ago

You guys should have bought an American Car.

Look at the weird problems you have. These issues and expenses will cost more than the gas you save.

shirley Rosa

3 years ago

Same problem. You may add my name to your list. THanks

Bob Tandorelli

3 years ago

2008 Prius with 15K and the driver's side HID light goes out after about 3-5 minutes. It is yellower than the passenger side. Turn lights off and on, it reappears for a few minutes, then goes out. On a mountain road this defect can be fatal.
These cars should be recalled.
File a complaint at [https://www.FTCComplaintAssistant.gov/] and get the ball rolling. $400 to replace one lamp!

Matt Durant

3 years ago

I have a 2006 Prius and am dealing with the second headlight right now. Drivers side went out this spring and was replaced under warranty. Passenger side is now intermittent. Same story with replacement from dealer, about $400. I am on the phone with Toyota USA right now registering my complaint, then its off to FTC website to log one there. I will post Toyota USA's response to the complaint here. As far as a recall, I don't think the car needs to be recalled just the headlights. Perhaps Toyota needs to extend the warranty for these HID headlamps to the life of the car. I will say that the service manager at my dealer was very sympathetic and relayed his own experience with his Prius and BMW needing these bulbs quite frequently. Of course this does not make up for Toyota's disregard of, in my opinion, defective parts.

KENT WARNER

3 years ago

About 45K miles and the same story of headlight on and off. I agree that Toyota should be held responsible. However in the meantime isn't there a replacement bulb that will work and not go out so quickly? Kent

KENT WARNER

3 years ago

Al, did you put in the cheaper bulb, and does it work? Kent

KENT WARNER

3 years ago

I changed my right headlight. Got it at NAPA for $88 and paid a mechanic to put it in taking 3/4 hour. Lots cheaper than Toyota!

Mike Horan

3 years ago

2006 Prius. Same issue. driver's side light works fine for awhile, flickers, then goes out. next morning seems OK.
I would be for some type of class-action...

Larry Federman

3 years ago

Please add my name to the list as well.

David

3 years ago

Message to Barbara:

Which dealership did you go to that replaced your headlight bulb for you minus the $50 deductible? I am in the same position: 2006 prius, HID goes in and out at 46,000 miles. Dealership in San Francisco wants to charge $150 for diagnostic check, $250 for new bulb, and $45 labor. Ouch! I need to go to your dealer.

Thanks!

Susan DeBAcker

3 years ago

2006 Prius with the HID lights - both sides go out at different times. Both lights have gone out at the same time - this is really scary. I drive early and on a lightly trafficed interstate, i need lights!
Dealer is aware, and has filed a case with Toyota in my behalf. I am hoping they pay for the headlights. Quoted at $900 to replace both.
I will keep you all posted.
Add me to the list for formal comlaint.

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3 years ago

wait...
is this the same bulb, but on the opposite side?
these mechanics cannot be trusted.

do you really think toyota would build a car where you have to remove the bumper just to replace a light bulb?

I highly doubt it

change your mechanic

Mike M

3 years ago

Exact same issue. We'd turn the lights on and randomly would either get 1 light, 2 lights, or no lights. Flicking the switch again would usually give us more (or less). Just took it to the dealership and I just about had a baby (I'm a guy) when they told me it would be $800 to fix it. It's partly because we have the HID lights which are a price of (~$350 a piece). To tell you the truth, I didn't really know what the HID lights were for when we got the car. My wife and I both agree that these lights were actually harder to see the full field of vision with. Man, if I could build a car out of parts from the dealership, it would probably cost at least ($100,000). After I heard the $800 thing, I told them to just leave them in. I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet. By the way, does anybody think this is actually extremely dangerous. In fact, so dangerious that someone is going to get hurt or killed especially when unknowingly driving with one light or even none (as I have a few times on accident).

Add me to the list,

Mike M
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3 years ago

are you sure it was the bulb?
it sounds to me like it was more of an electrical connection problem or maybe a wiring problem.

then it would make sense to remove some of the body parts in order to fix it.

Tim Brown

3 years ago

I too have had same problem with my 2007 Prius. Both lights have been replaced for free after warranty by the dealership. The second at 49,000 miles. I have ordered a pair of bulbs from plasmagarage.com for $229.00 for the pair. My right light went out last night and I don't think the dealership will replace it at 71,000 miles so I will either replace myself or get a mechanic to do so. Add my name to the list of disgruntled Prius owners but I still am really happy with the car itself.

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3 years ago

Prius headlights are HID lamps. Kind of like a florescent lamp on steriods.

HID lamps have both ballasts and starter circuts, like florescent lights. And when they go bad, they start to flicker and continiously restart.

Joseph

3 years ago

"You guys should have bought an American Car."

I LOVE America, but when it comes to production it comes to lousy work, over paid laborers, lazy workers, all supported by unions who do nothing but protect jobs by creating more, it sickens me, I will not pay extra for that when I can get a better product at a more reasonable price from people who know how to work, and not rest on the unions' idea's of "work".

John Butler

3 years ago

DITTO! I have a 2006 Prius with 47000 miles, left light was replaced at no charge at 34000 miles by a dealer that I did not buy the car at in Pittsburgh, now the right light has been going out for the last 7 months. Of course everytime I take it to the Toyota dealership, it works. This headlamp issue began after owning the "new Prius" for 7 months. Finally today it was not working and i took it to the dealership. They want $492 to replace the bulb. I do have an extended warranty, but it does not cove "wear" items. I do not understand their explanation for the light going out and back on. They claim that the filament can refuse itself?????? I really like the car, but this headlamp issue is making me crazy. I am in Newnan, GA and the dealership is going to contact Toyota Monday morning to see if they will do anything about it. I do not have much confidence is a positive outcome. Add me to the list of unhappy Prius owners because of the headlamps.

Jim Henry

3 years ago

I took my 2007 Prius (I have an extended 100,000 mile warranty) into the local dealership in Monroe, LA. My passenger side headlamp would go on and off randomely. It seems to be most prevalent after washing (by hand or machine) or during a rain event. The dealer said $375 just for the lamp and plus it is not a warranty item. Plus, they had never heard of thios happening. I'll keep flickingh mine until a recall. I was told I could go to the NTSB with my vin number and register a complaint. If enough register Toyota will have to recall.

Jim Henry

3 years ago

Go to www.NHTSA.gov and go to "File a complaint about your vehicle or Child Seat". You will need your VIN number to file.

Gary

3 years ago

I have 3- 2006 Priuses and ALL have the same headlight problem. Toyota refused to fix them. After seeing the overwhelming case histories above it is amazing that Toyota is not fixing the problem on thier nickel, OH! not a nickel- for me it is going to cost $2478.00
Not so sure the gas mileage is making up that cost.
Very disappointed!

payton fletcher

3 years ago

My Passanger side headlight went out off and on and would "re-set" when turning the light on and off. Both went off two weeks ago at night and reset with one on off cycle. Lukily I saw that it was out when my wife headed for work one morning so we swapped cars and I took it to tyhe dealership. They replaced the passngaer side and assured me that they would replace the driver side if I observed it going out again. Tonight first the driver side then then both went out as she was driving. The first trip they replaced the right front Headlight ECU 81107-47150 Computer sub assembly. One of the papers from the dealership has $278 handwritten on it. The one I signed and returned said $335.

I am going back in the morning and let them have another try.

This has got to be tough because the problem is only apparant when the dealership is closed - so figuring out what is really wrong will be tough.

I am convinced that Toyota wants this fixed - we just have to make sure we help them figure out what is going on...

Jacques Depart

3 years ago

Same here. The price is going up I was quoted $466 for the bulb alone at the dealership in Tallahassee FL

Judith

3 years ago

My headlights keep going off and I keep having to turn my lights off and then back on again to get them to work. I had to do this 7 times this morning on my way to work -- I drive 70 miles to work and the 7 times happened the first 30 miles. Last weekend, I was at the dealership and had asked them to look at this because I thought it was happening. They found nothing.

Yesterday, I did some internet searching and found out that this is a computer problem and not a headlight problem, but the computer can damage the headlights, causing you to replace them.

I now have another appointment with the dealership tomorrow to look at this. It will be interesting when I hear what they say the problem is -- if they do indeed determine there is a problem. If it is not resolved, I will be filing a complaint. Eventually, they will get the message after we have spent $$.

R Gonzalez

3 years ago

Yes, we are having the same problem. Add our name to the list. Today, after weeks of timing the flickering, buying the wrong bulb, not being able to get to the bulb, thinking it was a wiring problem, etc., we took our 2006 Prius to the dealership. The cost for us here in VA was $352.76 for the driver's side HID headlamp. The dealership suggested that I file a claim with Toyota customer service. I did.

But now, I'm concerned. Will the other go out? How long will this one last? They say it should last 10 years. But ours lasted 2.5 years and 45K miles.

From the history here, it is definitely a chronic problem with the model. I think Toyota should find the source of the problem and fix it on all affected models.

Would we have bought the package knowing this? NO. I let Toyota know that I have bought Toyotas since the early 80s and have always been satisfied … until now.

jon

3 years ago

My dealership actually told me that I had to replace BOTH lights if one goes out, for $990, as the lights come in pairs. My driver side headlight is out, the car has less than 30k mikes...In reading this blog, it is clear Toyota has an issue...I'll be contacting Toyota USA to file a complaint.

George K

3 years ago

My 2007 had intermittent failure of the driver's side headlight near 50k. I drive with the headlights on all the time. Dealer got Toyota to supply both new bulbs ($335 each), but I had to pay over $200 labor for the replacement. I have the next to the top line model and would never have chosen it had I noticed the HID lights (which everyone hates to see coming). Should be a delete option at least. Dealer said the "computer" which operates the lights would be over $600 if it needed to be replaced. Remember when you could get a complete headlamp for under $10?

As delivered, the headlights were awful. I had them aligned when the bulbs were replaced and they are now the best lights I have ever had. So check the alignment if they are not doing the job.

It does appear that this is design or manufacturing defect, otherwise we can only think it is a good way to wring out a few more $$ and much owner anger. I have been a solid Toyota man since 1985, but this gives me pause.

bruce berry

3 years ago

yup, that much.. mine for a 05 was $350 at the dealership.. and it is burning out when it starts goingoff by itself.. save you tax rebate for the other light bulB!

Deborah Garbe Denogean

3 years ago

After reading all the comments about the headlights on the Prius, this looks like a class-action suit just waiting to happen. We have been experiencing the same problem with the lights going off & one for a few months on our 2006 Prius. We have taken the car to the dealer twice and had a bulb replaced but they said they could not find any other problems with the headlights. They said they thought there might be a recall from Toyota re: the headlights but they were not sure. We found these comments after doing some on-line searching before calling the dealer for the third time. We will be showing the dealer all the comments we found from people having the same problems and see if they are willing to replace at no cost.

Terry Wehrman

3 years ago

Have the same problem with my 2006 Prius. Took it the dealer and htey wanted $300.00 each to replace the headlights. The car had less than 37000 miles on it. Now my wife tells me the passanger light is going out again with 46000 miles in it. If I had known of this headlight issue and the cost for a headlightI would never have purchased the car. I have owned 6 different Toyota's in my life. All have been brand new. I still am driving a 1991 Celica with 210,000 miles on it. This headlight issue on the Prius is a terrible design or a very bad technical problem with Toyota designers. This light problem should be a recall issue by Toyota. If the problem is not resolved, as much as I like Toyota's, I will never buy another one. Add me to any list of unsatisfied Prius owners.

Terry Wehrman

3 years ago

Have the same problem with my 2006 Prius. Took it the dealer and htey wanted $300.00 each to replace the headlights. The car had less than 37000 miles on it. Now my wife tells me the passanger light is going out again with 46000 miles in it. If I had known of this headlight issue and the cost for a headlightI would never have purchased the car. I have owned 6 different Toyota's in my life. All have been brand new. I still am driving a 1991 Celica with 210,000 miles on it. This headlight issue on the Prius is a terrible design or a very bad technical problem with Toyota designers. This light problem should be a recall issue by Toyota. If the problem is not resolved, as much as I like Toyota's, I will never buy another one. Add me to any list of unsatisfied Prius owners.

Terry Wehrman

3 years ago

Have the same problem with my 2006 Prius. Took it the dealer and htey wanted $300.00 each to replace the headlights. The car had less than 37000 miles on it. Now my wife tells me the passanger light is going out again with 46000 miles in it. If I had known of this headlight issue and the cost for a headlightI would never have purchased the car. I have owned 6 different Toyota's in my life. All have been brand new. I still am driving a 1991 Celica with 210,000 miles on it. This headlight issue on the Prius is a terrible design or a very bad technical problem with Toyota designers. This light problem should be a recall issue by Toyota. If the problem is not resolved, as much as I like Toyota's, I will never buy another one. Add me to any list of unsatisfied Prius owners.

Kathy Wilds

3 years ago

I also have a headlight that went out a few nights ago. My 2008 Prius has only 18,000 miles on it. I was shocked at what the mechanic has to do in order to change the bulb but I was even more shocked that the headlight has went out in only 7 months. I do not have the cost of replacement yet. I will pick it up today.

Mark Burke

3 years ago

Although I must have missed the distinction in the initial discussion and comments, it appears that this is entirely about HID headlights that come with the Prius package #4, 5 and 6. I bought the package #3 2009 Prius, and it appears that it uses the commonly available headlamps, which can be replaced with blue or bright white higher intensity bulbs if desired by merely twisting them out as you do on most cars. I checked under the hood, the left side looks pretty easy to replace, the left side has little room, pretty darn tight, but I was able to feel around and reach it by hand, which is all that's needed pop it out. I might have to remove a panel or air vent to make it easier to get to if my paws are too large. What surprises me, is that for years, the entire headlight assembly could be removed from Camrys, Corollas, etc., by removing one fastener, and then use the heel of your hand to "whump" it in a forward motion, and the entire headlight assembly would pop out, almost seemed too easy. That's not an option on these HID headlights apparently. Darn if I'd pay the labor to replace these bulbs, I'd get familiar with a #2 phillips screwdriver and buy a $10 manual or find a web link that gives pretty good directions. For the guy that said we should have bought an American car, I would have, the Chevy EV1, but their primary interest was in building vehicles that could tow 10,000 lbs and all that stuff. After owning a Chevy Monza (read - Vega) and a Chevy Citation, both of which were a disaster, and after an Uncle of mine owned a Corvair years ago, it will take a LOT to get me back into an American owned car. If I had to change anything on the Prius, the AMERICAN Toyota organization, which calls some of the decisions on this car, need to put fully adjustable seats in these cars like everyone else is doing now, and let the seat go back another 2 inches, which shoudl be a cakewalk and cost virtually nothing more. Geeze, even my brother's Cobalt that costs $10k less, has seats that'll go back further and offers more leg room. Who is making these decisions at Toyota, a bunch of $!@%## midgets? Whoever it is, needs to be fired, there are as many complaints about front legroom in these cars from drivers over 6' tall, as there are about the HID lights.

Matthew Keedy

3 years ago

2006 Prius at 50,000 miles: Noticed drivers side headlight out but was on again when checked later. Now at 56,000 miles, same headlight is going in and out about once every couple weeks but is always fixed by turning lights off and on again. Haven't even checked local dealer for replacement cost but I'm glad I found this forum in time to warn me!!!! Put my name on any list to get Toyota moving on this.

jason novotny

3 years ago

same problem as the rest of you all. when i called the local dealer there was no mention of a possible issue across all cars with HID lights. i have an 05 package #7 with 23000 miles (not much driving in my opinion) and this is a real disappointment. toyota should step up to the plate if this is so common. i would have thought my platinum warranty would have helped but no go from the dealership here. any advice is appreciated

Eric Imley

3 years ago

I have the same problem, I paid the dealer the $450. I have even had the dealer replace the bulb once. A few days later it looks like its coming back. I am going back to the dealer

Joe McCann

3 years ago

I filed a report with the NHTSA today on the HID light failure which I am now experiencing in my 2006 Toyota

Judith

3 years ago

Hi everyone. I have good news. It cost me around $400 to fix my passenger-side headlight, but the corporate office of Toyota is going to reimburse me. They are aware of this problem for some of the Priuses. Apparently, one of their vendors made deficient headlights. That is why they do not do a recall for all Priuses because not all Priuses are affected by this. Last Thursday, my driver's side light started going off and now I am working with my caseworker to pay for that also. They gave me an 800 number for you all to call: 800-331-4331. Prius owners actually get a caseworker assigned to help them. I am hoping all of you will get reimbursed! This is the corporate office -- not the local office. Good luck!!

suzi

3 years ago

Does anyone have more information about the replacement policy by Toyota for those of us affected by the apparent defective HID headlight bulbs on some of the Pruises?
I was just told by my caseworker at the National Toyota Consumer Office that Toyota would replace the cost of the bulb but not the labor. That policy does not seem satisfactory since I was also told that IF Toyota would offer reimbursement, then I would have to go through a Toyota Dealer for purchase and installation (which then commits me to their labor charges).

Walter Kimmel

3 years ago

My 2007 Prius has about 24,000 miles on it, and the passenger side HID light has been having the same symptom, increasingly over the past 2 months. Now, the driver's side light is doing the same. I am about to go to the dealer, but I am not very hopeful.

Bruce Rose

3 years ago

I have a 2007 Prius and just started to have the same issues with my passenger side headlight. I will first follow the suggestions and call Toyota Corp. and see what they will do for me. If I have to I will cause a big rukus outside the dealership and tell whoever I have to to get what I want and that is replacement of a defective product that I should not have to pay one dime out of my pocket. Wish me luck.

Bryan Rupp

3 years ago

Bruce, please email me and let me know what happened. I talked to Toyota today and the offered to pay for the parts about $1350 and asked me to pay the labor cost of $400. Plus they want me to pay for all of it up front and they will reimburse me after about 4 to 6 weeks.

Bryan Rupp

3 years ago

I have a 2006 Prius. The driver side head light goes out now and then as I am driving. It is unpredictable. If I turn the lights off and then back on, the light works again. It has been going on for 2 months. Now the other light is doing the same thing.
The dealer said that it will cost about $1726.00 to replace both H.I.D. headlights and 2 computers. I talked to Toyota customer relations (800-331-4331) today and the offered to pay for the parts about $1350 and asked me to pay the labor cost of $400. Plus they want me to pay for all of it up front and they will reimburse me after about 4 to 6 weeks. I DO NOT THINK I SHOULD PAY A DIME. THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT SHOULD BE A RECALL.

Bryan Rupp

3 years ago

Everyone who has had this headlight issue needs to file with NHTSA.com. If we all file a complaint, we should be able to get this issue turned into a recall and get our money back.

Bryan Rupp

3 years ago

Here is what happened with my case of the defective Prius headlights.
After reading all of your comments, I was unhappy with the settlement Toyota offered. This is a widespread SAFETY issue and Toyota should issue a recall and assume all responsibility.

I talked to 2 Operations Supervisors (Lorraine C., and Naomi Torres). Neither were of any help. They refused to give me their Supervisors name and said there is NOTHING more that they will do.

I would like to file a law suit if anyone is interested, email me bryandrupp@gmail.com.

Gary L.Robison

3 years ago

My rt headlight has been giving me trouble (the intermittent blinking or just turning off) for several months.I have drug my feet a bit I suppose but in the mean time i have purchased a bulb from an internet advertiser. It was. of course, the wrong one and wouldn't fit I did learn how to change them. During the time i've been playing with it the left side bulb has given me trouble by going out twice. So far they always come back on when I turn the switch off and on. I can only imagine how conkfusiong it must look to the people coming the other way. Are the replacement bulbs at the dealer, or elsewhere faulty too? Is there an "elsewhere" at a reasonable price? I have news for the comment about having good milage and paying for it now. If I have had a great timein my Prius because my wife and I can drive and do the things that we used to do when gas was less. That freedom "pays for it now". I'll jump on the band wagon to encourage Toyota to step up. They've done well with Prius. They should be willing to deal with the part maker or help thier customers.

Jerry Lindgren

3 years ago

I have a 2007 prius and was told today that the headlamp burned out the computer causing the lamp to wink. The dealer said my warranty covers the computer but not the lamp. He wants to charge me over $300 for the new headlamp. This is rediculous.

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3 years ago

I also have a 2006 with the HID headlights. Before the warranty ran out the driver's side headlight would go off and on, and strangely when it did this the Bluetooth for the phone would stop working, and when the light came back on so would the phone. Of course they told me neither was connected and looked at me if I was stupid for even connecting them together, but of course they always went off together. Now the other headlight is going off and on and I'm out of the regular warranty but do have the extended, which doesn't mean much in this case.
They told me the bulb is going bad and would cost $400 and they just happened to have one in stock....lucky me! Installation would be another $85....at first I said yes, but then declined their wonderful $500 to replace a light bulb offer. I think the cost is higher because I live in Santa Monica and they can charge an arm and a leg. I've been reading all your posts (thank god for the internet) otherwise we'd all be in the dark (not a pun) about this obvious defect with these headlights. I figured I could buy the bulb much cheaper on the internet, and I've found various sites for these bulbs. But my intention is to harass Toyota until I get some kind of satisfaction about this issue. I've made note of all the numbers and websites you guys have included and will follow through on this whole thing and will post my results here. I think the tack to take on this whole issue is the one of safety.....we cannot be driving at night with lights going off and on at their whim. One is not terrible, but what happens if you are doing 70mph and the headlights fail you? A horrible thought and a major class action lawsuit would result from this, not to mention personal injury etc.
Let's all stay on this issue guys. In my experience if we're civil, persistent and won't take NO for an answer, we'll get some satisfaction. Every time you get somebody on the phone who says, "I don't have the power to do anything about this."
I respond without being rude, "Then why am I wasting my time talking with you, please let me speak with somebody who can actually do something for me."
This is so logical they usually get somebody.
Good luck, everybody.

JR - "Worried Prius Owner" from Indiana

3 years ago

Hey fellow Prius Owners... Thank you for all of the information! I recently had my 2006 Toyota Prius with 50K miles serviced this past Saturday (11/08/08) and my headlights were working just fine... but I get out of work Tuesday night (11/11/08) and guess what... my Driver-side headlight is out! Is their some kind of trend here??? I have read all of the entries from this site and the outages range between 30K - 50K miles on the Prius? Now my car is NOT equipt with the HID lights, so is the design defect the same on my vehicle? And is the labor and headlight bulb replacement charges the same for my model??? I am pretty mechanical, does anyone know... is this a car project that can be handled on a weekend over a couple of hours and a few beers? Or do I run the risk of voiding whatever warranty (extended to 100K miles) I currently have... or worse yet... this is an electrical repair, do I run the risk of getting electricuted?

Toyota Exec's should consider a major recall to save credibility and retain loyal consumers. Is it worth someone dying by trying to save money during these tough economical times and attempt to make the repair themselves? I wrote down the 800 phone number down and plan to call Toyota.

Thank you all for the forum and the shared information... we should all band together and fight this! After all, while the politicians, media and others are simply "talking" about what should be done to help with Global Warming, Oil & Gasoline issues, and polution... WE PRIUS OWNERS HAVE TAKEN THE FIRST STEP AND "WALK THE TALK"!!!!

We are:
"P"eople-Who care about our world and others.
"R" esponsive-Not waiting for someone else to do something first.
"I" ntelligent-Forward thinking, looking into the future.
"U" nited-In the fact that over 1,000,000 owners truly care.
"S" aving-Our planet, our enviroment, our money, & our future!

Thanks again all and GOD Bless!,
JR from Indiana

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3 years ago

go back to the top of this topic, and read my posting (3rd from top). Get a #2 phillips screwdriver and go for it.

Bryan Rupp

3 years ago

Hello JR,
I do not know about the non-HID lights but I would take your car back to the dealer and let them know that your lights worked fine when you brought your car in and now they don't. Maybe you could get around this crap we are dealing with.

Dennis Hamel

3 years ago

I own a 2007 Prius and I am fumming! The dealership wants $356 for the bulb. I have no idea what they want for installation. They can pay me $28,000 for the car. I'm ready to trade my Prius in for an american car. Toyota should step up and fix the problem.

Corrinna

3 years ago

Me too - 2006 Pruis (18,000 miles), intermittent headlight failure on passenger side. Dealership quoted 3 hours and $480 to diagnose and replace the lamp.

Alan Strunk

3 years ago

Have a 2006 with HID lights with same problem which started at 57k miles. Had had issues with my dealership in CT, have extended warantee, and dealership only seems to warm towards me when I mention contacting the attorney general office for consumer issues.

Let me know how you do.

Thanks

Leslie Kagan

3 years ago

I have had problems with the headlights on my 2006 Prius as well (package #7). I reported it to the dealer this summer (around 30,000 miles). They said they found nothing wrong. The other day, I came home having had great difficulty seeing the road - no wonder, as I had neither headlight working. When I left my car for its 35,000 mile service today, I told the dealer again of the problem. I returned after 5 1/2 hours to find that they had done nothing - the headlight was "performing" and all the components looked good and they didn't have time for further diagnosis (they had my cell phone and could have called me to let me know).

I am disheartened to realize that this is a manufacturer's flaw and that the response from Toyota is inconsistent and dealer-dependent. With this information, I will contact IRA Toyota in Danvers, MA and see if they will do something more. Please count me among the dissatisfied.

Kyle

3 years ago

I had the exact same problem as everyone else and called the corporate office: 1-800-331-4331. Someone called my dealership the next day and arranged for the parts to be covered. I am going to pay for it and they are going to reimburse me. So basically, it should just be the cost of labor if you get in contact with the corporate office.

jeffrey

3 years ago

this problem with prius headlight is very common, happen with me twice one in each side.
the first time the warranty cover this time my extended warranty didn't cover light bulbs and the dealer want to charge me 278,00 for a light bulb.
I sad [&#@%!] no. I went on eBay and bought 2 for 79,99.
they are the Phillips d4r from Germany is the same exactly one I had in my 2006 prius,
I have no mechanic skill at all, but I did myself anyway, is a easy as chance a regular light bulb from the house.
turn one Black thing, unplug the plug, have a hold iron that u just press to come out and take the light bulb and put the new on in and reverse the process.
save me over 300 dollars, and took no more then 15 minutes
the passenger side is a little more difficult, because you got to remove the windshield fluid tank, but is only one screw and 2 plug.
if anybody have any question can email me and I will be more then glad to help out.

Judith

3 years ago

Everyone, please make sure you know what kind of headlight you have. The problem is with the High-Intensity lights, referred to as HID for the Prius. It is not included in all packages of the Prius. I have been told by several auto parts places that these particular lights can only be bought through the dealers and are not available anywhere else. They are still a relatively new product. It is the entire light that has to be replaced -- not just a bulb. So, please be careful about buying things over the internet.

Within a week of fixing my light, the other side started having problems, so I have had it fixed and am waiting for my reimbursement for both lights now.

I would also like to remind people about the low maintenance of the Prius. So far, I have had very little, minor things like oil changes and replacing a windshield wiper and air filter. On the whole, Priuses are very low maintenance. It is unfortunate we all did not realize this problem with the lights and how expensive they are to repair, but I am still a fan of the Prius.

Bob A

3 years ago

Same problem with my 2006 level 8 headlights. Can I replace with non HID light?

Barbara binkieg@sbcglobal.net

3 years ago

Same problem with my 2005 Prius. Somewhat later then most of you poor people, at 55,000 miles. Right headlight out...went to dealer, they wanted $450 to replace a bulb that is NOT burned out, but goes on and off at will. After I picked myself up off the floor, I got real mad. Then I went on this web site, and found out what a real problem we all have. This is an eletrical issue and a saftey issue and Toyota needs to stand behind their cars. We all need to get very vocal and call Toyota and anyone else who will listen. I can't believe all the money spent replacing bulbs, when this isn't the problem. Someone is going to have to lose their life before anything gets done. What a crying shame. Please become proactive and get the word out there anyway you can. I am going to call Toyota, the newspapers, the dealerships, and anyone else that will listen. Sooner or later we will find an ear, that will listen. Toyota complaint # 800 331 4331

JR from Indiana

3 years ago

Thanks "gschaut" and everyone else that made helpful suggestions.

I bought a replacement headlight bulb at an auto supply store for under $10 (I do not have the HID lights most of the reports have been about) and within 1 1/2 hours (and after reading the Toyota Prius manual) in my garage with phillips screwdriver, a flashlight and a dental mirror, I was able to replace my driver's side headlight myself!

I can however see why the dealership wants to charge close to $500 bucks in labor... it was a challenge getting my "man hands" in past the fuse box and twist the plastic boot off. Also... VERY IMPORTANT there is a clip that secures the bulb to the headlight housing... be patient and do not forget to have some electrical grease on hand to prevent any moisture from penetrating the light or wiring harness. It definately was time consuming, but worth not shelling out $450+ and doing it myself. Again... my 2006 Prius does NOT HAVE THE HID headlight option, mine is a standard bulb.

Good luck to you all still having issues with your Prius'.

GOD Bless,
JR
from Indiana

Alan S

3 years ago

I have a 2004 Prius w/85K miles, out of warranty, and the right HID headlamp has been going off (and on) intermittently for almost 20K miles.

I called the Toyota corp # provided earlier (thanks!) and filed a complaint, and received a case number.

When asked what I wanted, I explained that replacing a headlamp for over $400 (parts + labor) was unacceptable, especially when the cause was not "normal wear and tear" but faulty parts.

A Sylvania HID bulb is about ~$110, and the process of replacing the bulbs (documented several places) takes about 20-30 minutes (for those comfortable working on cars). Even if I were a $300/hr lawyer, that would make the labor only ~$150 for a total of ~$260.

So, I would be satisfied with Toyota if they replaced the headlamps with quality replacements at no cost to me, and, also provided a list of acceptable replacement headlamp bulbs for those owners out of warranty (like myself) who are willing to do their own replacement.

I'm not going to hold my breath for this issue, but I can't expect things to change if I don't give feedback.

S.C. Richardson

3 years ago

It's amazing to see how many complaints there are about Prius headlights - which I Googled, of course, because I'm having the same problem, and I'm in shock about the estimate from the dealer ($900+ for both lights). I filed a complaint with Toyota and with FHSA, but it seems crystal clear that Toyota needs to step up and admit the problem.

Tom J.

3 years ago

Well, add another to the list. My wife's 2007 Prius is having the same problem with the drivers' headlamp....On and off when ever it wants.....The car is also having problems with the drivers's rear tail light......I will be taking the car in soon for it is still covered under warranty.....I agree also, that this is a big safety issue that Toyota needs to adress....I will be calling Toyota also at the above number and filing a complaint....

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3 years ago

I just found the Hybridcars.com website; and more importantly, the chat string regarding the Prius headlights fiasco. I just paid $332.50 to have my 2 headlights' HIB bulbs replaced - and that DIDN'T include the parts cost because I provided the HID bulbs from an online auto parts supplier.

The symptoms were the same as noted by so many other Prius owners on the chat string: frequent loss of light from the headlight, and recovery by rotating the light switch off then on again...only to have it re-occur a few minutes later. Each headlight had its own pattern of inconsistency, but both had the dysfunction. I have received two traffic citations for driving with a headlight out.

The dealership in Glen Burnie, Maryland quoted me a price for one HID bulb of $351.02
I was able to find the exact bulb online at Partsquick.com for a price of $57.27
That's right, the dealership wanted to charge me $293.75 MORE per bulb.

I purchased two online, which - with free shipping - cost me $114.54 for both.

Do the math...for two light bulbs only (not counting labor) online I saved $587.50

Had I not purchased the bulbs online, the total out-of-pocket to replace both headlamp bulbs would have been:

$ 702.04 parts ($351.02 x 2)
$ 332.50 labor
$1,034.54 Total

This is insane.

Please let me know if there's anything else I can do to help you get Toyota to address this highway robbery.

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3 years ago

All,
I just called the Toyota National Headquarters at 800-331-4331 and gave them a full report of my problem. The young lady was extremely professional and courteous, despite my anger. She said she is handing my issue over to a case worker who will contact me within the next 24 hours to talk about a remedy.
She actually encouraged me to share their number with any Prius owners who are having headlight issues so they can become aware just how pervasive the issue is. The number of reports they receive from owners directly influences how likely they are to see this as a big (recallable) issue. PLEASE call and give them your story and complaint.

Dipak Bhakta

3 years ago

I have the same problem with my passenger side HID headlight. Works if I switch lights on and off. Dealer quoted me about $550 including parts and labor, which is crazy for a lightbulb. Futhermore, from what I am reading in the forums, it is not guaranteed to work becuase the new bulb might have the same problem too.

We also have a BMW with Xenon HID headlights that are 5 years old now and never had any problems with them. So this problem is with TOYOTA only.

Please add my name to your petition if you are doing one.
Thanks,
Dipak Bhakta
California

06_Prius

3 years ago

There is really good information about this at PriusChat. This is a safety issue and you need to file complaints with the NTSB not the FHSA. The complaint form is online at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/. Contact your dealer's service manager. The manager in the service bay works on commission. If your dealer's service manager isn't able to do it comp, then call Toyota national.

Bryan Rupp

3 years ago

EVERYONE NEEDS TO FILE A COMPLAINT ON THIS WEBSITE. http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/
When filing the complaint, make sure to reference this hybrid web site. http://www.hybridcars.com/forums/replacing-headlight-bulb-t910.html#comm...

Toyota said they would pay for the parts and I needed to pay for the labor. I had to pay for everything $1726.00 and then they would send me a check for the parts portion $1300.00.

It has been 1 month and 1 day and I have not heard anything from Toyota. I called Toyota and they could not give me any info as to when my check will be mailed to me. They also told me that there was no Supervisor that I could talk to.

There customer service is the worst.

Jim Boyle

3 years ago

I have a question after reading all (and I do mean, all) the posts here. Have we concluded that the problem lies in the computer or the HID bulbs, themselves? Obviously this is a recallable issue. I like the Partsquick solution for the parts, but the labor costs are absolutely exorbitant. I always avoid the dealer for parts or labor if I can. My problem is exactly the same as everyone else's, with a few variation. My '05 Prius, package 6 has 154k miles on it and the passenger side headlight thing started about 20k miles ago. It never flickers and the driver's side hasn't even thought about giving me a problem. The passenger side starts fine but in about 5 minutes of driving, it shuts off. Haven't tried the reset trick and am waiting for the "fix it" ticket from the CHP. Hmm. I just wonder if the HID bulbs from Partsquick is the direct replacement or generic. Thanks for all the comments and the consensus. All need to tell Toyota, not just a few. They will listen to our money, or lack of it, a lot better than to our voices, esp with the economy as messed up as it is. This is how we change things. Thanks again.

Gary Goetz

3 years ago

05 HID 14,000 miles RH bulb comes on turns pinkish and goes out. A search at http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProducts/AutomotiveLighting/LampReplacem...
shows The 2004 and 2005 use the Osram Sylvania part # HID-D2R while the2006 and newer use the Osram Sylvania part # HID-D4R I will attempt the DIY purchase of a bulb and install and report my relative success. Since I got 14,000 miles and 4 years I do not feel my bulb failure is unexpected especially since I use the headlights as DRLs and drive a mailroute which is exceptionally rough.

Gary Goetz

3 years ago

uh sorry that is not 14,000 it is 114,000 miles!

Kim LeMasters

3 years ago

Owner of 2006 with 31K and exact same issue with headlights. Sharing the same concern as other postings, I don't really understand how the bulb can be the problem since a rapid on/off turns the lamps back on. Has to be a PCB, computer, relay, resistor (less likely) glitch since recharging of the system (the act of on/off) resets the lamps.

Judith

3 years ago

Although I had found information saying this was a computer problem, Toyota told me that it is a light problem. I believe they said it overheats. That is why it goes off again. I found that if it is off long enough, it will stay on once I flipped it back on -- but in most cases, keeping it off is not a possibility.

I am currious about the HID lights people have found on-line . Are you absolutely sure they are the correct lights for the year of the Priius you have? If not, Toyota may be able to nullify any warranted parts the lights may affect.

I did receive my check from Toyota, but it does take a little while.

Bryan Rupp

3 years ago

I just got my check from Toyota $1312.00. It took 6 weeks to the day. I paid $1629.00 11/7/08. They paid for parts, $1312.00 and I had to pay for labor $317.00. If this was not a defect in need of being escalated to recall, I would be happy to have made this deal with Toyota. I want my $317.00 back. With all that is going on I have not had the time to pursue legal action but I fully intend to.

Anyone wishing to contact me is welcome at bryandrupp@gmail.com

Bryan Rupp

Tonya

3 years ago

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. I have a 06 with 60,000+ miles on it. Just took it in for the major service and found out the right headlight went out. I too drive with my lights all the time. They told me it would cost $220 for one light to be replaced. I don't have HID but 60% of the cost was for labor. I balked at the price and I was able to get them to offer $140 for one side. I figured that if one is out then the other was going to go soon so I asked what would offer to do both...They came back with $250 for both light. I still think it's a rip off but I'm not going to crawl under and do it myself so I guess I'll have to pay it!! Try talking to the service people...they have the power to deal a little and if they don't then go to their manager. It can't hurt to ask!

Ted Crawford, Indiana

3 years ago

2006 Prius - Let me add to the weirdness here. I started having tailight problems at 30k...bulbs kept going out. I have replaced 5 tailight bulbs. However...I have noticed that even after replacing them sometimes they just don't light. Other times they are just fine. I also noted that the license plate lights go out and come back on....I just assumed it was a loose bulb and they are working right now so I figured I would wait for warmer weather to take them apart.
45k miles - Driver's headlight went out. I am, just starting to analyze if it is related. I had heard the ridiculous cost of replacing a headlight stories that are now circulating. Sounds like Toyota might have to learn a lesson on this. I suspect there is a looming electrical design problem on all of these cars. Toyota may be hoping it goes away. I will let you know what i find.

Ted Crawford

3 years ago

2006 Prius- My good news is that my Prius does not have the HID headlights and the bulb was $40 and labor was only $25. The dealer said that Toyota was trying to make the cost of replacing bulbs easier on us.
My bad news is that because changing the bulb is so difficult the mechanic accidently gouged my bumper cover and now the dealer will have to repair or replace it. They felt badly and will take care of it.

I wonder if you guys can bailout on the HID headlight bulbs and go back to the conventional ones that mine uses. The dealer said they are trying to reduce even the HID bulds to $150.

Looks likethey may be getting the message...so there is hope.

John in Virginia Beach

3 years ago

Add me to the list. Same random headlight problem first right side only for about a month, now both sides. sometime one or the other sometimes both at once. I have filed with NTSB. Thank you all for taking the time to post as it was VERY helpful to me.. I will try calling Toyota ahead of going to the shop to see what they say.

T

3 years ago

Ok I know this is a Prius blog, but here is the thing...the headlight problem isn't just a Prius issue. I have an infiniti QX4, and my driver side HID headlight goes out randomly. From everything I have researched, this is an issue either dealing with the bulb, ballast, or cpu. Clearly, no one has an answer and the dealship sure as heck doesn't know. My question is, who has dealt with this and actually had a fix? What did you do? How much did it cost? What other things did you try before finding the fix?

Ted

3 years ago

I have also had the headlight issue with my 2007 Prius. The originals went out just before the initial warranty expired - about 32,000 miles - so there was no charge to replace them that time. Now my car has 60,000 miles and the 3rd one failed - to which my Toyota service dept. quoted me $550 to replace ($350 for the HID headlight and $200 to install. In order to replace the entire headlight - housing and all - the bumper needs to be removed. After doing some hunting around (checking with various repair shops in the area and checking information out about the headlight issue online) I ended up with a VERY NICE ALTERNATIVE!!!! First, you CAN replace JUST the bulb and while it is more involved than most cars, it does NOT require removal of the bumper.

I ordered a service Manual: [url="http://www.tradebit.com/filedetail.php/4587180-toyota-prius-factory-service-repair-manual-2004-2009"]Prius Service Manual[/url] and printed out the pages that had to do with installing the headlight - to give to my service mechanic in case he hadn't done it before - which turned out to be a good thing!

I ordered two new bulbs that are brighter and come with a 1 year warranty: from [url="http://www.carhidkits.com/toyota-97/prius-hid-kit-352/"]IMPROVED Prius bulbs[/url]

When the bulbs arrived, I took them and the instructions to Pep Boys (who had told me over the phone that if I had "bulb in hand" they would install it for me.)

Since it was the first time they had done this at Pep Boys it took them nearly 2 hours to do the job (it should take about 30- minutes each once they get the hang of it).

Because the new bulbs were brighter and "prettier" than the original, I had them install BOTH new bulbs and give me back the one that still worked which I now have a s a back up.

Cost? $105 plus sipping for the bulbs = $115
Labor at Pep Boys: $129 for BOTH bulbs.
Service Manual: $20

TOTAL COST for TWO headlight replacements!!! $265 - as opposed to $1100 that it would have cost if I had gone to Toyota. I have a back up headlight bulb AND a service manual, and best of all, my new headlights are AWESOME!!!

David Coberley

3 years ago

My 2007 Prius just developed the headlight problem. I have a manual but was dismayed to see what it takes to simply change a light bulb. What a terrible design!

I'll probably try it myself if my local dealer won't do it under warranty. I don't trust the dealer (Rosner Toyota-Stafford, VA) where I bought it. They've already proven themselves untrustwory on a repair shop issue.

I'll go to the FTC site, but if anyone takes it to a class-action suit, please contact me.

Good luck, everyone.

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3 years ago

I need to replace 2007 driver side headlight. It would seem simple to do by just removing the fuse box. Is this easy to do?

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3 years ago

Well I contacted Toyota about my headlight issues. (By the way, have you noticed how many Priuses are driving around with either a headlight out or a taillight out....scary) Got the thing reviewed by a manager, and after some days they declined mending the light. They told me this was based on my Toyota ownership history and dealer history.
I would not accept this decision and called back a week later voicing my displeasure. I have owned a Corolla and two Priuses, but they had no record of the other cars in their system....scary!
What it amounted to was Toyota saying I hadn't owned enough of their cars, and I hadn't used their dealer enough for servicing.
They did offer me a $250 voucher for any future service, BUT it could not be used for the headlamp problem.....very bizarre!
This was like not admitting to the headlight issues, which is very strange indeed because the first person I talked with admitted to the problem and said a team were working to resolve this issue.
I didn't decline the voucher or accept it, but I have since supplied them with the Vin numbers for the Toyota's I have owned.....we'll see what happens next.

Z

3 years ago

I changed the driver side light bulb in about 15 minutes on my 2006 Prius. Yes it was difficult, but it did not require any tools.
1. I removed the fuse box cover.
2. There is a spring covering the light bulb. You will notice the bottom of the light will move back, but the top stays fixed. I am not clear how I removed it, but it does unclip a swing toward the outside of the car. You need to have it out of the way to get it back in.
3. I pulled both the light and cable over the fuse box.
4. I put the new light in place, hold it with a paper towel to keep it clean from dirt or oil.
5. I put the light back in place and some how reattched the spring.

Cristhiam Cano

3 years ago

Hi, I have a 2004 prius with exactly the same problem. I was going through Texas around July 2007 and the driver side headlights start giving me problems. The Toyota dealer told me that the all the wires and on that side need replacing and it will cost me more than $900. I did not want to spend that kind of money. A close friend had the same problem with a 2004 Toyota Sienna so I sort of guessed that this was an issue. Now my passenger side light has started to go off more frequently. I have taken the Prius to dealers here in South Florida but they couldn't find the problem. Their response was to replace both light bulb for a cost of each one of $400 plus labor, that service tech did not convince me at all because the parts department told me that when those light bulbs stop working they do not work anymore. and besides the service guy told me that it has something to do with filaments on the light bulbs itself. I am wondering if those HID lights in my car had those filaments that he is talking about. He did not give me any guarantee that the problem would go away anyway. I think that Toyota is one of the best companies in the world but I think that quality is going down now that they became the number one car selling company. Another friend of mine spent a lot of money to have the engine in his 2000 Solara replaced because it was giving him a lot of problems and soon after the 3.0 liter engines in these cars were recalled. They didn't even take care of his expenses even though it was just days before it was recalled. It's starting to look like they do not care about you. It seems that they are becoming like most companies that put out a product with known defects and just wait until there is a big enough noise to do something about it. I feel that if I am going to purchase a Toyota car that is so expensive that you should get your moneys worth and that you will trust that it last you more than that. After all we are buying not just a car but their word and trust in their word that it is a good product.
If in the end, though we only have one resolution,
let's sue those Mother F*&(&^&. Sorry for my french

JD

3 years ago

Add another to the list! My wife owns a 2006 Prius pkg 3 with halogen (non-HID) headlights. After initially losing a drivers headlight bulb in July, 2008 another failed in November. Thankfully I am a former mechanic so I am able to perform this contortionists act fairly easily. I thought it odd that another had failed so quickly, but at 29.99 a bulb isn't nearly as painful as the price of HID. Last night I returned from a stint out of town and while driving to dinner noticed the drivers light out again. 3 bulbs in 6 months is not right on any vehicle, so I decided to do a search. Wow!!!
Much to my chagrin I found this thread.
My issue is different in that it is a non HID pkg, but 3 bulbs in 6 months? Lets be serious!!! Someone please advise this thread when there is a class action suit, as it may be the only route to achieve satisfaction from Toyota. From the above posts Toyota have been far less that helpful. Just imagine the number of actual problem vehicles there are considering we that have found this post are certainly few.

Jayne W. Dye

3 years ago

2007 Prius. Passenger side headlight and taillight are not functioning. Rt. Turn Signal lilght works.
Add me to the list of disgruntled and unhappy owners.

Roger Roberts

3 years ago

Add me to the list 2006 80,000 has anyone changed the lights and fixed the problem??

Paul T. Ivancie

3 years ago

OK. I'm going to weigh in on this problem.
I own a 2001 and a 2006 Prius. Headlights have never gone out on the 2001 after 150K miles.
Just a few hundred miles shy of the 36,000 mile warranty (just on the headlights), my left side headlight went out. When flipping the high beams on did not light the offending bulb (I did not at the time realize that HID headlamps do not have separate high and low beam filaments, but simply change the focus of the one HID capsule.), I immediately stopped into a parts store and bought a replacement bulb (non-HID). I did think it strange that the lights both went back on when I got back into the car, but I decided that I should replace it anyway. On the next day, I removed the offending bulb (not as difficult as some people seem to think) and discovered that it was some sort of rare-earth discharge lamp. Because this type of illumination system should be very reliable (there being no fragile filament to fatigue and break), I figured that I just had the bad fortune to run into a rare case of infant mortality, or just a defective bulb to begin with.
I took both new and replacement bulbs with me as I walked the mile to my Toyota dealer. The service person had no idea what I held in my hands. But the auto parts store across the street, where I had bought the incorrect bulb, took it back and warned me, "This could be expensive... more than one hundred dollars." He could not get me one... or even order me one, so he couldn't predict the exact price.
Fortunately, I got both lights replaced (the right side went shortly thereafter) under warranty. (Plus $80 labor)
Now, at 82K miles, here we go again. This time, I called Toyota (using the number mentioned above) and read them the riot act.
I first did some snooping on the Web, so I had some ammunition. I could get absolutely no commitment out of the representative, but he insisted that my local dealership must diagnose the problem before he could make a decision on a "possible reimbursement."
I had to make an appointment with my local dealer for them to have the car for a whole day. "What if the headlight does not go out?" I asked. "Are you going to drive it all day, using my gas and causing wear and tear?"
"Nope. We will not be doing that much driving."
So... Toyota will call the dealer and then me back on the day after the appointment with a determination as to what they will do (or not do).
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I am a retired Electrical Engineer, and I am hopping mad. This is a safety issue, if I ever met one. We simply cannot be driving around at night flipping our lights off and on willy-nilly. It's got to be so annoying and distracting to other drivers, to say nothing about: What if we flip the lights off in order to relight one and neither comes back on? What then? Arrrrrgh!
A "super" lightbulb that costs THIRTY times as much as an ordinary one should last longer... a LOT LONGER... than the cheap one. The CFLs that we are all replacing our ordinary bulbs in our homes with are "guaranteed" to last as much as seven times longer than the incandescent bulbs that they replace. I should think that these HID capsules should outlast the car itself!
If any issue deserves a class action lawsuit, this one sure does. I might eventually get my headlights replaced for free, but what about those loyal customers who just take the "expert's" word as gospel, and shell out the better part of a thousand dollars to replace one lousy headlight?? They deserve their day in court.
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Have a nice day!
Paul

George Campbell

3 years ago

I too have same experience with 2006 Prius HID D4R bulbs. The first 1 I got replaced luckily though my insurance because of their warranty as a result of comprehensive damage and it was under 3 years, 36,000 miles. The passenger side just began doing the same thing, now it is over 3 years and 36,012 miles.
I see OEM replacements online, but even my mechanic does not know how to replace it. Is there a manual you can buy to do the work yourself? I posted a complaint with the NHTSA and am planning to call Toyota. Maybe if enough of us call Toyota, they will do more.

George

Paul T. Ivancie

3 years ago

Progress[?] report:
The "winking out" phenomenon is getting worse, so I was able to drive to the Toyota dealer with the headlight in its OFF state. They removed the bulb, cleaned up the contacts, replaced the bulb, and then could not repeat the failure. However, before I arrived at my home (2 miles away now, since they have moved to their new building), the light was out again, so I drove right back to the dealership for them to observe the pesky thing one more time. I have just called my case worker at Toyota, and he will consult with the service manager and call me back. Wish me luck, everyone. I want another free bulb!
Paul

Paul T. Ivancie

3 years ago

George,
The driver's bulb is easily removed and replaced, after a minimum of disassembly inside the engine compartment (a few fasteners holding the plastic fan shroud). The passenger side requires an additional removal of the windshield squirter fluid bottle. Then, you have to unfasten spring clips holding the socket into the headlight shell. Be careful to NOT TOUCH the bulb. (This also true of any headlight bulb. One fingerprint left on a bulb can seriously degrade its life expectancy.. even cause it to explode.) Use a clean unused paper towel if you are unsure. It is not rocket science, but you must move carefully.
Paul

CG

3 years ago

Hello all,

I had the same problem that most of you are having. Contact Toyota, they seem like they are actually doing everything in their power to refund all out of pocket expenses. Per discussion with my case manager the are issusing me a check for the full amount and i should receive it within two week. I will post again if that doesn't take place. To get started call 1-800-331-4331 and get a case started, unfortunately you will have to front the money, after you get the bulb replaced either fax or mail a copy of the invoice to your case manager.

If you multiple Toyota dealership in your area i would recommend shopping around i got mine replaced for under $250 but received quotes for over $500 originally. Save yourself money up front and save toyota money in the end. I truly have to admit that i have been impressed by the way they are owning up to the problem. Probably why Toyota is number 1 overall. It hurts me to say this considering i have always been a Nissan fan.

Lastly it does sound like they will be covering this problem even if the car has over 36K miles.

Nihar Upadhyaya

3 years ago

I have the same problem. Took the car to the local dealer and he wanted to charge me about $400 for replacing passenger side headlight bulb. Which includes the $158 for the bulb itself and rest for the labor. Which according to me is a bull... but came home and went online and found a pair of headlight for 06 prius for $10.00 (including shipping). Going to post the message once I get them and whether they work or not!!

Wanda Beckworth

3 years ago

I am having the sam problem with my 2007 Prius. took to Toyota today to be told after a three hour wait it could be the bulb for $191 or the chip $349 which was not covered by my extended warrenty. I love my car but hate the cost of repairs.

Paul pennsylvania

2 years ago

our 2006 Prius has the dropping headlamp problem and the problem was the headlamp computer board covered under an extended warranty. Don't let them sell you a new bulb, it probably does not need it.

Steven

2 years ago

Same problem as posted above with my 2006 Prius. Just got the passenger side light replaced for $252.21 and two days later the drivers side light has the same problem. Thank God for this forum. I was feeling mighty peeved at this expense. Called the suggested Toyota number 800-331-4331 and they were very friendly and helpful. They knew about the problem, assigned me to a case worker and will coordinate with my dealer to get the problem resolved. Exactly what they will reimburse and what I have to pay for it still unknown but at least I won't be paying it all.

Thank you to everyone who posted before me. Certainly helped my day.

JR from Indiana

2 years ago

Hey Prius Owners...
I've been a "die-hard" Toyota fan... but in today's economic times... consumers are only going to buy or make purchases from auto makers that TAKE CARE OF THEIR CUSTOMERS, especially issues that could jeopardize the safety of their consumers! If it's customer satisfaction and reliability you all seek, take a look at the 2010 HONDA INSIGHT? It's a carbon copy of the Prius styling and look, gas mileage and price tag. If Toyota doesn't want to admit they have a "recallable" issue... I'm going over to HONDA for my next purchase! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!

Good Luck to all of you still having Prius electrical issues... be safe out there.

May GOD keep you and be with you all,

JR from Indiana

Kai Price

2 years ago

My Prius dealer told me bulb replacement would involve removing the bumper, for a whole lot of time and money.
My local mechanic, just squeezed his hand in there and did it, for very little time and money.

Guess which option I chose.

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2 years ago

The moral of the story, find a mechanic with small hands.

Damn, I miss the good old days of child labor.

Aaron Reiff

2 years ago

I changed my own bulbs in my 2006 Prius in 30 minutes for the paltry sum of 37.99 + tax (usd). Tight fit but I got them pulled out and replaced. I came here to complain about the size of the opening but never mind...Page 420 in your owner's manual...

Suzan Davies

2 years ago

TOYOTA CALLED AND SAID THEY WILL PAY THE DEALER DIRECTLY AND THERE WILL BE NO OUT OF POCKET COST TO ME!!!!! ----- I have a 2007 Prius with 42k miles on it. My headlights have been going on and off for a while now. I recently got a fix it ticket in California so I took the car to the dealer. Guess what? Not under warranty! Both HID lights need to be replaced for a total of $450. I left the car at the dealer and called Toyota at 800-3331-4331. They opened a case file for me. The next day a case worker called me and told me that they would pay the parts and I would cover the labor. (they would reimburse me) I told her I did not have the $450 and would have to wait to do the repair. She told me she would check to see if they could pay the dealer directly and call me back. Within a few minutes, the dealer called me and said Toyota is paying for the repair and my car will be ready tomorrow. Right after that TOYOTA CALLED AND SAID THEY WILL PAY THE DEALER DIRECTLY AND THERE WILL BE NO OUT OF POCKET COST TO ME!!!!! I still love my Prius! Toyota came thru for me. I was ready for a fight, but did not have to at all!

julie lowell

2 years ago

I tried that number and it brought me to family life. Any other thoughts?

julie lowell

2 years ago

oh, it is 800-331-4331

Paul T. Ivancie

2 years ago

OK, I promised an update on my status, but have been remiss until now.
Toyota reluctantly agreed to replace my 2006 driver's side HID headlight, but said that this would be my last free trip to the well.
(Read my appends above.) I had to front the money first. They will reimburse me now that I have FAXed them the dealer receipt.
I am now in the process of waiting for my passenger side headlight to go. (My first pair of headlights went bad within a little more than two weeks of each other, both within the 36,000 mile warranty period. At that time, the bulbs would have cost $308 apiece and the labor was $80 to replace them. Today, the bulbs are nearly half the former price, but the labor cost remains about the same.)
I will try Toyota once more, but if they refuse to cough up any more dough, I will do it on my own nickel.
First, I will try to contact Aaron Reiff (see his append just above) to find out where to buy the new lamp. That price he mentions ($37.99 + tax) is the best I have heard about so far.

Paul T. Ivancie

2 years ago

Aaron,
Where do you get the HID capsule for $37.99?
adTHANKSvance,
Paul

Esther J

2 years ago

I would like to hear what information you have about this. The same thing is happening to my car! I've been quoted $250 by the dealer for it.

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2 years ago

he probably has the lower package Prius with the plain old tungsten lamp.

John Devine

2 years ago

I removed the passenger side HID headlight myself (I do have somewhat smaller hands) after an hour and a half struggle brought it to our local repair shop and was told I probably wanted to check whether the warranty would cover it as the cost they gave me for the bulb was $275. I went to the dealership and indeed it was covered under the original 3 years and 36,000 mile warranty. Of course the driver side didn't go out now until I'm at 41,000 miles so now although it is less than 3 years I have no coverage. When I told the Toyota dealer repair manager that it made no sense to have a mileage restriction on this part given that there is no direct correlation to miles driven and light bulb lifespan he simply shrugged. I greatly appreciate this forum as I now have some potential resources to explore that may reduce the cost I was quoted of $455. Ridiculous! Remember that old slogan, I love what you do for me - Toyota! Like everyone else here, I wish Toyota would get in the driver's seat (pun intended) and accept responsibility to satisfy their customers. Becoming and staying the #1 car seller in the world is entirely driven (again) by customer loyalty which takes into account not only the purchase experience and the on the road experience, but perhaps most importantly the service experience. I will definitely be calling the 800-3331-4331 number listed previously and filing a complaint at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/.

bethamacclain

2 years ago

I, too, have a package seven 2006 Prius and am furious about the headlight issue. I had a package 5 2006 that I replaced and IT had headlamp issues, too, but I had the extended warranty. The original dealer has agreed to take care of me, so I will take it there tomorrow. I think that there must be some known issue or they would not be replacing bulbs for free after the warranty expired. And this was implied when I talked to them, though not stated explicitly. It is clearly a defect that can have serious safety consequences. This really must be a recall issue or else a class action. Put me on that list.

Paul T. Ivancie

2 years ago

Hi, Everyone!
I thought that you could all use a quick overview from an Electrical Engineer.
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HID = “High Intensity Discharge”. In order to light up one of these babies, you need to apply very high voltage to the lamp module (commonly called the “capsule”). The application of high voltage actually strikes up an “arc” (just like lightning) across the terminals inside the capsule. Once the arc is established, if measures are not instantly taken to limit the electrical current, the process will run away and the high current will destroy the capsule (and anything nearby). Current limiting is performed by a device called a “ballast”. So… in order to produce light, we require this thing that everyone has been calling a “computer” (a high-voltage power converter), the ballast (correctly named), and the “bulb” (more properly called the “HID capsule”).
What may be causing premature failure of the light (I may be wrong) is excessive depletion of metal on the contacts inside the capsule perhaps in combination with the release of contaminants trapped in the metal. I theorize that each startup of the headlights (in states with DRL requirements, every time the car is turned “on”) causes a few atoms of metal to be eroded from the electrode(s), and secondarily may release impurities trapped within the metal. Eventually, either the electrode(s) shrink to a size insufficient to sustain the arc, or the vaporized impurities interfere with the arc and cause it to be extinguished. This would explain the symptom that the light can usually be coaxed back on by cycling the headlight power switch. My headlights would never restart on their own, but if I interpret some of the previous appends correctly, some owners have seen theirs do so spontaneously. Perhaps the power converter is smart enough to automatically attempt to re-strike the arc.
It is obvious to me that the headlamp lighting system has one or more engineering insufficiencies. The system should be investigated, the failure mechanism uncovered, the guilty part(s) determined, and the system should be re-engineered to eliminate (or mitigate) the failure.
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Paul

Louise Morgan

2 years ago

Add me to the list. I was stopped by the Oakland police this evening and issued a warning because the driver's side headlamp on my 2007 Prius was out. 27,000 miles. After reading all these posts I feel better prepared to confront my dealership service manager tomorrow. Thanks.

mcr

2 years ago

I am with a law firm that is currently investigating complaints that the HID headlights malfunction in certain Prius model years. Check us out at http://www.girardgibbs.com/prius.asp, or give us a call toll-free at (866) 981-4800. You can also reach me by email at mcr@girardgibbs.com.

Anonymous

2 years ago

The filament breaks and sometimes when you turn off/on it welds itself together.
It won't stay fixed.

Anonymous

2 years ago

The filament is broken. Turning off/on welds it back together. It will not stay fixed.

Daren Yeo

2 years ago

Pruis 2005 owner. My non-HID headlights go out (and stay out) about every 3-4 months. Very annoying! However, I replace them (as they go) with generic Auto shop bulbs for less than 10$ each. The drivers side takes about 5 minutes to replace, the passenger side 10 minutes and only a couple of plastic covers removed from under the hood. I am not a auto-phile, so most anyone even mildly handy should be able to do the same. Let me know if anyone is interested in a detailed description of the procedure.

Sarah

2 years ago

My husband notice my 2007 Prius 45,345 miles, had a headlamp out last night. But this morning (foggy) strangely it was working again. This page was the first return on my metasearch. Thanks all, lots of good information. Sounds like I'll need it.

Sarah

Gary Goetz

2 years ago

Bought two eBay HID bulbs for my 2005 cost was 32.00 for both including shipping. My passenger headlight was the bad one off cycle switch on but pink then back off. I replaced the passenger side by myself not a lot of fun some of it is by feel because it is impossible to see what the hand is doing. Here are how to replace instructions on Priuschat
http://priuschat.com/forums/knowledge-base-articles-discussion/38842-how...
My new bulb has been in for 3 months now so it seems ot be reliable. Stock bulbs are 4100K or so most replacements are 6000K or higher I put in 8000K but would not recommend any higher than the 6000K bulbs.

Kamilla Wright

2 years ago

Yes, Please help!! I am having the same issue. What do I ask for and how do I install? email: kamillawright@srctn.net

powder_chowder

2 years ago

My wife loves her 2005 Prius. Purchasing it was a political statement when shrub stole the election for the 2nd time. Personally I think it drives like a golf cart, but that's because I drive a SAAB 9-3 wagon with 2.0T and 17" wheels - I don't get 43mpg, but I do get 34mpg. The Prius is a great around town car but it’s too squirrely on the highway and mountain roads for my comfort. Certainly can't complain about mpg or being green though...

Anyway, I was looking here to find out how to replace her headlamp. I'm glad we didn't go the high intensity bulb route when we bought it. She had a 1994 Camry before this (great car) and I remember replacing headlamps on that car caused me grief too. Thanks for posting the link to the detailed instructions.

Should have bought an American car? If I’m in the market for a huge SUV or pick up with a triton V-12 dually, super heavy duty extra cab, sure, the USA makes great trucks, but I’m not a farmer or construction worker, I’m a family guy. As for buying an American car, I don't think so. First, tell me which American CAR (not truck ro SUV) is available with a 6-speed manual transmission (yes manual), a torquey 210hp 4 cylinder engine, leather seats, sport handling and gets 34mpg, then I'll consider one. And don’t say Ford Focus, because that’s an Opel made in Europe. Geez, now you got me started…

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2 years ago

Powder_chowder:

If your Prius is "getting squirrely" on the highway, I would have the front end alignment checked.

My Prius hugs the road, straight and true. With the engine, electrical system and battery pack all located very low in the chassis, this car has an excellent center of gravity. And unless you are on snow/ice, this car should steer with no problems.

Unless your front end is out of alignment. And that can be a problem after you hit one-too-many potholes in the winter...

I. Kersey

2 years ago

Yeah, I had the problem intermittently for months. 2007 Prius with 42K+ miles. Got pulled over by highway patrol, he said passenger light was out. He stood in front and I turned the lights off and back on again and both came on. Finally getting it replaced. Not happy about cost.

Anonymous

2 years ago

I had to replace both headlights after 54k miles last January for $750. Now 14 months later, my passenger headlight went out and dealer is wanting $$475 to replace 1? The manager is working on something to reduce to price but has not have an answer yet. Can't afford $500 for a headlight annually and reading all these comments, sure that the other one is going to go out soon.

Mike Disgusted with Prius

2 years ago

Check this out. I wonder if it will work? Two conversion kits with two headlights and two computers and all wiring and instructions.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H4-HID-CONVERSION-KIT-HEADLIGHTS-01-08-TO...

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2 years ago

The headlight problem on the Prius is not with the headlights themselves it is a faulty ECU board. HID headlights should last at least 3,000 hours or about 90,000 miles for the average driver. (www.jdpower.com) (mine is a 2006 with 85,000 and the bulbs are fine). The problem is that Toyota is banking on the fact that they can continue to fleece its customers by telling them that the bulbs dim, flicker, have filaments that burn out, and a bunch of other garbage. When an HID headlight burns out, it burns out, just like any other light bulb. It won't magically come back on (customer service said it was a safety issue to warn drivers that it needs to be replaced) SAFETY??? Driving down the road in the middle of the night and having your headlights fail completely is a "safety mechanism". BS!

The problem is a power interruption with the ECU board that powers the headlights. STOP replacing headlights and start filing complaints to the NHTSA, and Toyota customer service!

Another issue that I will warn you about is the ABS/Regnerative braking system. I had my brakes replaced by a non-toyota mechanic. (Sorry, It's routine maintence, and any mechanic should be able to replace brakes, change headlights, oil, etc.) When he finished bleeding the brakes the ABS remained on. He drove it and noticed the driver's side rear brake was sticking. Hooked it to the computer and nothing kicked out a code. He called Advanced Auto parts where we bought the brakes and they had a service warning that indeed it will not kick out a code and the rear brakes will stick. The fix was to take it to a "toyota certified mechanic". So, I called the dealership and was told, "yes, we need to reset the system for you (for $84 = ONE hour of labor!!) but in the mean time it's perfectly safe to drive you just don't have ABS." Well, I drove it the next day. I had a car pull out in front of me. I hit the brakes and did a 180 into oncoming traffic at 50 mph. Luckily I was not killed! I called Toyota customer service and informed them of the issue, and the fact that I had already reported it to the NHTSA, as well as being in the process of looking for a lawyer willing to file a class action lawsuit. Within 30 minutes I recieved a call back from customer service, they agreed that it was a safety issue and stated that they will be putting out a service warning. They also said, "ma'am, the dealership where your car is currently also noticed that your ECU board may be faulty when they were servicing your brakes. We are going to replace it for you free of charge." HHHMMM... magically they want to replace the other problem I've been fighting with them for 6 months now once I told them I filed a complaint. Seriously, this car is a death trap. The only way to force a recall is to report it to the NHTSA. Stop letting Toyota get away with this!

Dano

2 years ago

I have the same problem with both headlights, primarily the passenger. I understand it is the ballast thing on the HID headlights....yes I think that Toyota should fix it, yes I filed a complaint because this is a safety issue and changing the bulb doesn't fix anything...

Michael Armand

2 years ago

The NHTSA has started an investigation. The NHTSA Action # PE09019. They have requested a ton of information from Toyota which is due 7/24/09. There has been over 100 cases of both lights going off at the same time at speeds up to 70 MPH. Go to NHTSA to get the Defect Investigation; bring to dealership or mention when call Toyota. And MOST IMPORTANT, file a complaint with the NHTSA!

Ken Smith

2 years ago

First of all, I love the Prius and won't buy anything else as the overall quality of the vehicle is great! I also had the problem with the driver headliight going out on me intermittently. I traded that 2007 model in for a 2008 model and at almost the exact same mileage the driver headlight went out. I have 61,000 miles on the vehicle now and the car is starting to lose both headlights. I recently noticed that turning them off and back on quickly resolved the problem only now it seems to go off sooner and my high beams are also failing. I keep my fog lamps on just in case all else fails when driving at night. We just returned from a vacation in the smoky mountains. I was driving around the winding mountain roads and wahlaa! Out go the lights. You wanna talk about a sonnabitch moment! Toyota needs to do something about this. I took the care to the dealership and was quoted $380 parts & labor to fix the problem. That was just for one light. I'm thinking about just using standard halogen bulbs. Anyone know if that is ok to do?

Anil Khare

2 years ago

I have same problem with 2005 Prius with conventional bulbs...

5 min and 10 min solutions will be great! Any information will be very helpful to me.

Please help.

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2 years ago

If you have the "standard" filament lamps (not HID) then headlight change is a :30 job, and new lamps cost less than $10.

DO NOT GO TO TOYOTA!!! They will rip you off!

Bulb are mounted on a 1/4 turn socket that just pulls out from the back of the bulb housing.

HID lamps are a little more involved. Need to use a screwdriver to pull some trim off the car, to get a bulb housing. But still nothing you can't do yourself. Or local garage can do for only a few $$$.

See previous posts on this topic.

Paul M

2 years ago

Sounds like the case referenced above "The NHTSA Action # PE09019" has been closed. http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/defect/results.cfm?action_num...
"THUS, A SAFETY DEFECT TREND HAS NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED AT THIS TIME AND FURTHER USE OF AGENCY RESOURCES DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE WARRANTED. ACCORDINGLY THIS INVESTIGATION IS CLOSED. THE CLOSING OF THIS INVESTIGATION DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A FINDING BY NHTSA THAT A SAFETY-RELATED DEFECT DOES NOT EXIST.

Does no exist my @ss.

Danny

2 years ago

you probally have to take off the front bumper but IAm not sure if you send me a picture of the engine i could tell you but most likely you have to I work on a toyota prius 2006 and it had the same problem with the head lights

SDH

2 years ago

My 2005 Prius with HID headlights has begun to behave as everyone here has so well described. I have been stopped only once so far (I guess I have been lucky). The problem is the passenger side headlight that randomly goes out and does come back after turning them off and on again.

Another problem I have had intermittently that may be related (??) is that my car alarm goes off in the middle of the night for no apparent reason (changing out the small battery in the front and emptying the overhead sunglass compartment did not solve the problem).

After reading the entries in this blog I am confused about some things:

1. Is NHTSA or Toyota planning to offer a solution to a serious this serious safety issue ?

2. If not, is there an active class action lawsuit in the works ? If so, can someone please post the contact info.

3. Does replacement of any of the parts (bulb, ballast, electronics, etc.) remedy the problem ? If so, can the replacement be done without resorting to a mechanic ? Are the parts readily available at Pep Boys, etc., or only Toyota ?

4. Does replacement with non-HID lightbulbs remedy the problem ? Is it safe to operate the car with an HID and non-HID headlight, or must they both be replaced ?

Thank you for the information.

Cindy Hart

2 years ago

Prius Headlights shorting out - both went out the other night, very scary on a dark road. The dealership in Santa Cruz?Capitola said the cost to replace the bulb will be $250, but how will replacing a bulb fix a short???

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2 years ago

Usually, it's not the lamp's fault. The lamp gets blown up by a bad power supply. HID lamps do NOT run on 12Vdc. Like florescent lamps they need a power supply transformer and ballast. Usually it's the power supply board that needs changing.

but Toyota dealers seem to be famous for replacing the lamp, but NOT the power supply. So a month later, your new $250 lamp burns out as well.

First, find out if you Prius has the standard lamps, or the HID lamps. Then find a REPUTABLE service shop to fix the problem RIGHT.

bigtoe

2 years ago

I have 40K and 4 years on my '05. I just change both my Headlight bulbs(not HID) about 1 month ago. Even those were a bitch to get to. Took me a little over an hour. Might take me 30 minutes top for next time. Probably pretty soon since I found out my Sylvania Silverstars won't last a year. Probably looking for Sylvania XV or Osram Silverstars(Euro) for replacement.

Got to them partially by feel. Didn't realize I was suppose to take off the bumper. I heard the Yaris manual also recommend removing the bumper. Thank G.O.D I didn't get a Pri with HID.

Oh yeah, my previous life was a mechanic. (Not Auto)

Email me if you like to know my experience with the Infamous Silverstars on my Pri.

Lisa Gilkerson

2 years ago

Why isn't there a recall on this issue? I have actually had both headlight go out at the same time....turn off and back on and they're fine. You never know when it might happen and they are so darn expensive it's ridiculous!

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2 years ago

Recalls only happen after you have dozens and dozens of dead bodies on the highway.

No car is EVER recalled because of "danger" or "hazard".

You MUST have a substancial body count to get recalled.

dsskipper

2 years ago

Same problem - 2006 Prius, Pkg 7. First time we had the problem was actually very shortly after purchase ... the dealer checked every connection and could not find anything ... they isolated the problem to a short in the bulb itself - their words, not mine. they paid for the replacement. passenger side developed same problem later ... we had to pay, but dealership comped us the labor. we called the regional guy for toyota and complained, as we have had several other electrical problems: window motor burned out, both tail lights have gone out, brake light ... seems to be generally a crappy electrical system ... toyota basically did nothing for us ... now driver's side bulb has developed prob again ... 3 bulbs in 3 years ... i have driven other cars more than 10 years and never replaced a single bulb! so now i want to change this bulb myself ... any advice on a source? i have xenon HID bulbs.

Eric

2 years ago

Same with me. 2004 Prius. Bought used. Replaced my driver side headlight. $350!!!!

Someone PLEASE do something about this?

Cindy L

2 years ago

My headlights eventually both went black at the same time! I followed these steps I found from someone else, and it worked! Car was fixed free of charge:

If you are experiencing the Toyota Prius HID headlight defect failure you may be looking at a repair cost of up to $1,800. Here's a recommended approach for getting Toyota to take responsibility for the defect and to minimize your out-of-pocket expense:

1) Take your car to your dealer's service department and tell them that the HID headlight(s) are unexpectedly shutting off. Let the service writer know that you are aware that this is a common problem with HID equipped Prius (seems to be mostly 2005-2007). You should mention that the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA) has registered over 480 Prius HID headlight safety complaints. You can review the complaints by downloading the attached NHTSA database file or visiting the NHTSA database at: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/index.cfm. You can also mention Toyota's Technical Service Bulletin: T-SB-0030-08 "HID Headlight System - Diagnostic Tips". If your car is still within the 3 year / 36K mile warranty period then Toyota should cover the repair cost 100%. If your service writer tells you that the repair is not covered (he may say that the bulbs are not covered under the warranty or point out that your car is beyond the 3 year / 36K mile warranty period) then ask if the service manager would contact Toyota corporate and seek Toyota's approval to cover the cost under Toyota's customer goodwill or loyalty program. If your dealer refuses to fix the HID defect free of charge then get a repair quote and move on to step 2.

2) Call the Toyota "Customer Experience Center" (This is Toyota's corporate customer service) at 1-800-331-4331. State that you have a safety defect with the headlights on your Prius. Say that you would like to report the problem to Toyota and open a case asking that Toyota repair the defect at no cost to you. The customer experience center representatives are extremely polite and will offer to open a case. They will supply you with a case number. They may take your information immediately or they may have someone call you back. You may want to call the 800 number and ask for Teresa at extension 73837. Teresa is very knowledgeable and helpful. She will know exactly what you are talking about when you mention the Prius headlight issue. You should be polite but firm. This is a serious safety problem and you know that it is a common problem on HID equipped Prius. They may start out by offering to cover 20% to 50% of the repair cost. Be firm and insist on 100% coverage.

3) File a formal safety complaint with the NHTSA.
Headlights that unexpectedly shut off while driving is clearly a safety issue. And it does appear that HID headlight equipped Prius indeed contain a design defect. Reporting a safety defect to the NHTSA is the first step in forcing Toyota to conduct a recall.

There are three ways to file a complaint:
Call the Vehicle Safety Hotline
Call 1-888-327-4236 or 1-800-424-9393 toll free (1-800-424-9153, for use by persons with hearing impairments)

File the complaint on-line
File the complaint on-line at the NHTSA vehicle safety Web site: www.safercar.gov. Select “File a Complaint” within the Defects and Recalls section of the home page.

U.S. Mail
Send a letter to:
U.S. Department of Transportation
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
Office of Defects Investigation (NVS-210)
1200 New Jersey Avenue SE

Neil and Stephanie

2 years ago

Please add my name to the list!!!!

The dealer was sympathetic (yeah right) and offered to replace both at once for $550. It would take 2 hours of labor. The bumper needs to be removed. (This is not even accurate and is a glaring rip-off. Everything that dealer does is overcharged by a factor of 2. We walked into a warranty that requires that they do the service (and my wife is a little conservative.....)

Nothing related to the lights is covered under warranty (2007, 32k miles).. I would not have bought the car if I had know this BS would come up.

I don't give a rip about HID bulbs. I just want a simple, reliable car that gets good mileage. It is actually cramped and quite small // so you better make sure you are not taller than 5' 10". They made the decision NOT to let the drivers side seat go back anywhere as far as it should. The space is there. Maybe Japanese tend to be shorter.

I am looking for the solution to the light issue that I can take to my local mechanic, complete with a cheap bulb and explicit shop instructions. When/if I can pull this off, I will add a complete and explicit report to this blog. The mechanic is good, reasonable, and smart.

Please forward manual pages or / where can I get them? The shop manual may cost $900.

Neil Timm

2 years ago

I am reading this blog for the first time, having just lost my drivers' side light -- or had it just go flaky. It worked at the dealer -- you get the drift.

I am going to contract GM and FORD. They have and are developing new hybrids. They just might be interested in debunking the Toyota quality myth -- and the serious lack of ethics. Please add my name to any list.

John S

2 years ago

Yet one more name for the list. Both headlights on my 2007 Prius were affected. Either one would shut off without warning, sometimes both. If I turned them off and back on again, they would resume working.

I was bound and determined to not have the issue repaired until Toyota (hopefully) announces a recall, but I was cited by the State Police with a Repair Order. I had 10 days to have the situation rectified. The end result was replacement of both HID bulbs at a cost of $503.

I have a long commute to/from work and passed 36k miles in about a year and a half, so no warranty coverage.

This is clearly not an isolated incident. Toyota needs to admit to the issue and make the people who have had to correct this problem whole.

James Marciano

2 years ago

First off, thank you all for your info... I was driving home last night when I noticed my passenger side light out. This morning it was fine. I called the dealer where I bought it and they said it was a bad light bulb - $150 labor + $150 for the part. Funny enough, when I talked to Parts, they said it sure didn't sound like a light bulb problem - exactly. So I called another dealer (Thompson in Doylestown, PA) and the service guy John (x2103) knew all about it - he said it's a bad computer blowing the bulb. So the solution is to replace the computer and the bulb. I have 51,500 miles on my 2007 Prius Touring Model (HID lights), but I have the extended platinum warranty (bought it for $900 from Toyota of Greenfield, MA) so they will cover the computer and all the labor, but I have to pay the $150 for the bulb. I called Toyota HQ and a case manager is calling me back tomorrow. Fortunately all I have to do now is ask for them to pay for the bulb ($150) since that is not technically covered under warranty. But given that the dealer is saying that the computer caused the bulb problem, this shouldn't be too hard to get accomplished. btw, I was told that Toyota has recently lowered the price of the bulb (to $150) so even though they still aren't allowing dealers to treat this for what it is (a defect) they clearly understand it should be. This is a pretty half-ass attempt to make it right. btw, my mother bought a Prius in 2001 and is now on her third one. I bought my first one in 2007 after owning two Corollas as a kid (my Porsche sits in my garage - that's how much I love my Prius), and I just convinced my brother to get the new 3rd generation Prius (under the Clunkers program). Toyota shouldn't be pissing off loyal customers... they need to take some responsibility here.

James Marciano

2 years ago

Update from last post .... so when I get to the dealer, the same guy who told me it was the computer now says they have to inspect it anyway (and btw, he hadn't put my appt in the book). Frustrated, I left and hoped for the best but suspected the worst. I called them at 1pm to check-in and the woman (Beth, part of the Gold Team), told me that they had replaced both bulbs under "good will" warranty. So the new theory is that the supplier of the bulbs was at fault, and the new bulbs should be fine. They had gotten permission from their local Toyota rep to replace both bulbs on three 2007's that very same day. So I'm happy to have the new bulbs, but a little annoyed that I still can't get a straight answer ... oh well, guess we'll just drive and see. btw, I did call Toyota HQ and had a case opened, but then I called and closed it .. probably best to work it out with the local dealer first (had I known they would replace the bulbs, I wouldn't have bothered calling HQ).

Paul T. Ivancie

2 years ago

Everything that has been posted to this blog lately has already been covered (a number of times) in previous appends. Look back a week to Cindy L.'s post. She sums up what to do pretty well. Be sure to exhaust every avenue before ponying up your hard-earned dough. I am about to turn over 100 thousand miles on my 2006, and I have already gotten three free replacements from Toyota, so I just bought a pair of HID capsules for about $100.00 on the Internet.
(check out http://www.carhidkits.com/toyota-97/prius-hid-kit-352/)

I will have to replace my passenger-side headlight very shortly, since it has started to wink out with increasing regularity. Both lamps can be swapped out without having to remove the bumper! I will probably replace both sides, so that oncoming drivers will be symmetrically blinded by two new 6000K bulbs.

Justdidit

2 years ago

Let me see if I can flesh this out a bit for the headlamps - it is in the 2008 Prius Owner's Manual and I am not a mechanic though I am mechanically inclined but I believe anyone can do this if they are attentive, careful and determined.

Passenger side headlamp:

Remove left-most pop-screw from black plastic bumper cover. Carefully lift left-hand side of bumper cover that you've freed and pry the plastic peg up and out that is securing the air intake. Remove the portion of the air intake that you've freed and set aside.

Next, unplug the electrical connection to the headlamp and gently attempt to direct it to a location where it will not interfere.

Now, unscrew rubber gasket seal by pushing down on the tab toward the inside of the car and lifting the tab opposite of it (by the passenger fender) which will cause it to rotate about 1/8th of a turn. Trick: Make sure you are rotating the gasket as far as it goes AS you attempt to loosen it from it's capture screw-ring, which is done by pulling on the tabs away from the headlamp or in the direction of the rear of the car. Tug gently but firmly to remove the rubber gasket seal after it has been released from the screw-ring - set it aside.

Finally, locate the bail wire and push in and then up on the hook side of the wire which is toward the passenger fender.

Remove the headlamp!

Hope the rest is obvious! But some tips:

Do not touch the bulb itself on the lamp you are installing (follow directions on lamp packaging)

Once the bail wire is back in place securing the new bulb, fit the rubber gasket back on by first carefully placing the center hole around the plug end of the bulb, which can be accomplished by careful feeling with a finger through the hole of the rubber gasket seal. It took a couple tries for me to secure the rubber gasket seal in the capture screw-ring - be patient, don't force it and you will get it.

Don't forget to plug the electrical connector back in!

Check and make sure it works before you replace air intake portion and complete the reassembly.

Hope this helps and will inspire someone to do it themselves - you'll get a little dirty but that's what they make soap for!

Heidi

2 years ago

My 2007 just needed the second headlight replaced. The first one went at 37,000 miles, just out of warranty (the dealer did let me slide for the labor) and this week the second one went at 78,000 miles. I have been driving my own cars for at least 40 years and have replaced only one other headlight in these cars. There is definitely something wrong with these lights. Why won't Toyota pony up and admit it and repair them? In these tough times Toyota should accomodate its customers or they'll be someone else's customers. A letter is going to Toyota today; hopefully I'll get a satisfactory solution to this problem.

Heidi

2 years ago

I just paid to have the second headlight replaced yesterday. The first one went at 37,000 miles, just out of warranty, now there are 78,000 miles on the car. I have owned cars for over 40 years and have replaced only one headlight in all these cars. There is definitely a problem. Toyota should pony up and take care of its customers. In these tough times, they should be accomodating their customers or soon their customers will be someone else's customers.

Heidi

2 years ago

I just replaced the second headlight on my 2007 Prius. Love the car, just don't like the headlights failing. I have owned cars for 40+ years and have replaced only one other light. Toyota definitely has a problem as evidenced by the above comments. If they want me to continue as a customer (this was my 3rd Prius) they should stand behind their product.

pedro-jorge

2 years ago

Same exact problem as everyone else; dealership insensitivity and all. I just paid a reputable local mechanic $20 to change the bulb and it works fine. Interestingly, on my first visit to the local dealer, one of the assistants pulled me aside and asked "would you have bought the car if you knew a light bulb costs $350?"

Joel Cordeiro

2 years ago

I too have a problem with the headlight HID. I have a 2006 Prius with only 18,100 miles and the driver side light went out. I messed around with it and it went back on, but while driving it went out again.
This is just wrong of Toyota!
There is a class action against them. Please see the link.
http://www.girardgibbs.com/Prius.asp?_kk=prius%20headlight%20hid&_kt=c46...

Now do I pay for a new one?
Thanks for listening.
Joel

Frank Andersen

2 years ago

My passenger side HID headlight went out within the first 10,000 miles on my 2006 Prius. A friend told me that it was out but when I checked the light it was fine. I thought he was pulling my leg. By the time the light was out most of the time and after being stopped by the highway patrol it was way out of warrenty. I took it to the Dealership in Portland, Oregon and they acknowledged that it was out and the computer was out and I only had to pay $780 to have it replaced!!??!! I thought that was the going rate but I see by reading other Prius's owners experiences that maybe I paid a tad too much for the replacement. By the time I had driven less then 10 miles, my driver's side light was becoming a 'blinking' light as well. I haven't had it replaced but I have been stopped twice by the highway patrol to let me know it was out. When I turn the lights on and off, it comes back on and I haven't received a fix it ticket yet. However, the light is pretty much going out constantly so I will have to replace it.
I have figured out that if I have to pay $1500 for headlights that any advantage I had in gas mileage has been lost. So, I will not be buying another Prius! I had plans to until I saw the price of replacing the headlights. Honda hybrid is high on my list for a replacement car. I hope Toyota fixes the problem as well as helping out the present Prius owners by paying for their defect.

Dave B

2 years ago

That's an ignorant comment. The Prius is made in America!

PC Ovando

2 years ago

I have a 2005 Toyota Prius and the driver front light blew out. I went to the Toyota dealer in Downtown Los Angeles and they gave me me a quote of $618.

$421. for the light bulb and $217. for labor. I told him about the computer malfunction and that other dealers charge less. He said that each dealer sets their own prices. I was really upset and disappointed that Toyota is charging and arm and leg, not to mention that I already have two fix tickets. I called HQ and after 30 minutes of waiting, I finally talked to someone and they wrote down my case and someone is going to call me back. Will see what happens!

I know for sure I don't want to pay $618. So much for saving money on gas. OUTRAGEOUS!!!!

Traylor

2 years ago

Just Called Toyota as well. They also said someone will call me back tomorrow. This is pretty freaking ridiculous. The guy on the phone seemed nice so hopefully something will come out of it. Hopefully.......something......

geoff

2 years ago

dont trust pep with crap. if you buy the bulb there put it in yourself otherwise youll be in for a world of problems. i myself had them improperly install a water pump,my old gf had a corolla needing an oil change got it back and it would not start not to mention that they triple charged three diffrent prices same invoice for a dist. cap. and etc. also my old manager took a rare camero there to have a ball joint diagnosed. pep said it was fine untill the car dropped like an accordian and whoa and behold the balljoint WAS cracked. hmmmmm

sam bradley

2 years ago

i have a 2006 prius,22,000 miles.so far no headlight problems,crossing my fingers.

Susan Mazur

2 years ago

I was grateful to find the directions to replace the headlamp on my 2005 Prius last year (the driver's side). A year later the passenger side went out and I just purchased a bulb on-line for $80 (last year it was $116 but the dealer wants $350!) I see ads for even better prices now that I'm looking once again for the directions to replace the passenger side but it's too late to cancel the $80 one. Oh well.
I have anxiety about changing the bulb because it was a real pain doing the driver's side - I eventually got a friend to help me and had to stand by and be supportive. I'm hoping he'll have some "muscle memory" from his previous experience. Maybe I'll buy him a 6 pack before I ask him. Anyway, thanks for the directions - I hated the idea that replacing a bulb would cost more than $400 at the dealer. Shocking!

Jeff Lawson

2 years ago

I have a 2007 Prius w/ 52k miles on it. 3 months ago the passenger head lamp went out. We didn't really care due to the driver side was still on. Plus the passenger comes back on when restarted. Called Toyota in Wdbg, VA for replacement bulbs. $170+tax(each). quoted around $600+ to replace bulb in shop.. Driver side started going out but turning lights off then back on worked. I called local auto stores for HID bulbs. Bought pair at Amazon. Halo D4R 10000k for $95.00. Followed instruction from gschaut (2nd posting). It took a little longer than ½ hour but great instructions. I used 10mm socket instead of the Philips for underneath screws. New lights don’t work the greatest though. Have to turn off then on a few times before they stay on. Any ideas, suggestions?
Ballast bad? Computer controls need to be reset (if any)? Bad replacement bulbs?

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2 years ago

HID lamps are essentially florescent lamps on steroids. HID uses a ballast system, similar to florescent. but HID ballast is usually a small electronic circut board, as opposed to the giant brick shaped ballast resister found in old florescent light fixtures. I'm not 100% certain, but I think Toyota buries the ballast circut inside one of the car's main computers, neccesitating the replacement of a computer module to fix a bad ballast.

IF the ballast circut is going bad, it can kill the HID lamp. And when you put a new lamp in, the ballast starts to kill the new lamps as well (by allowing excess electrical current thru the lamp).

The only suggestion I can make is that if the new replacement lamps go bad in two years, you can either replace your headlights every two years, or take the car back to Toyota and pay thru the ****** (body orifice description deleted) to have the ballast system replaced.

Of course if the lamps start burning out FASTER, then you may end up having no choice but grab the lubricant, bend over, and visit the Toyota dealer.

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2 years ago

Oh, and sorry about the 1/2 hr time estimate. I'm an engineer, and I keep forgetting that not everyone owns right power screwdrivers.

If you have to pull all those screws out with a hand screwdriver, it definitely takes longer.

Dean

2 years ago

I just heard from the dealer -- we've had your car running for three hours and the headlight is still on. (Thanks Idiot)

I told them to drive it -- in 10 minutes it would go out. Dealer admits there is a problem with bulbs but had to see that the light actually goes out :-(... before they can recommend a fix.

This is a work in progress -- I will not retreat. This is a safe driving issue especially as we now start to drive home in the dark. UG!

Stand by.

Dean

2 years ago

They want $600 to fix the problem... a new bulb. I said no way -- they had better figure out a way to make this go away. We'll see what they say.

Aziz Ahmed

2 years ago

My passenger side headlight died (or at least - I thought so!) a couple of weeks ago. The Toyota Dealer told me that it is not covered under my extended warranty as it is a bulb issue. They asked for $380 to fix it. I thought they were trying to make some money for a simple fix; I did not fix it as I was planning to take it to other non-dealer service for alternate quote. Last week, my driver-side head light died when I was driving at night (a horrifying experience)! I stopped the car on the side, turned it off, and turned it on again after few minutes and found that my driver-side headlight is working again! Just to make sure that it is going to work, I turned the HLs off and on - a couple of times. To my amusement (:-), my passenger-side HL also came back to life!

Here is what I am thinking: Is Toyota management so dumb to not see the danger? It will need one accident (it can be fatal if lights go off at night while driving - like it did in my case) to undermine all their achievements through PRIUS. The lights work but there is an issue that is creating this dangerous safety issue. Toyota knows this and still not doing anything to fix it or recall it: thats a dangerous self-distructing business policy.
If I'm at their higher management, I would have thought that a "Toyota Brand" reputation is worth in saving than a few million dollars; I wouldn't try to rip-off people to fix Toyota's design fault!

Debbie McArthur

2 years ago

Most of the comments are from a year ago. Has anything new happened with the NHTSA or from Toyota. Mine is a 2008 and 45,000 miles later, the same thing happened to me. Passenger headlight out. Went to dealer, told $300 to change. Obviously not much has happened with this issue since 2006! I wish I had known, I would never have bought this car. Wait till the battery goes out! God knows how much that will cost. Becasue of their lack of concern, I will NEVER buy another Toyota product. And the NHTSA is obviously in cahoots with Toyota because there is no way that The NHTSA cannot find this a terrible safety issue. Hmmmm...How much do you think it cost Toyota to keep the NHTSA quiet???? Ojur tax dollars in action....

steve martin

2 years ago

NHTSB decided this is not a safety issue (previously posted above).

There is a class action lawsuit (also posted above) underway.

Also posted above was a great process for taking your car to the dealer, calling toytoa customer complaint(?)s, and filing with the NHTSB.

Looks like we all need to wait until somebody dies before our govt, or toyota do much about this.....

Richard Brewster

2 years ago

Hi Jeffrey,

I have a 06 Prius and just found out that the driver side lo beam is out. Read a letter from a guy saying that you had to take the inside fender and bumper cover off. Is that so? I can see the light connector but it's blocked by a black box of some sort.

Any suggestions?

Richard Brewster

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2 years ago

Richard: The black box contains MUCH wiring, and should not be tampered with. The procedure Toyota recommends to it's own mechanics is to remove the bumper trim, take out the screws holding the lighting module (head light, turn signal, marker light) in place and slide it forward. THEN you can get at the connectors on the back of the headlight, and replacement is simple.

Jeff Miller

2 years ago

There is at least one class Action Lawsuit in the works. Go here to help it go further http://www.wcclaw.com/CM/ClassActions/Toyota-HID-Headlights-Investigatio...

Jeff Miller

2 years ago

Go to this link and become a facebook fan to stay informed. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Prius-HID-Class-Action/195351592664?ref=ts

Karin Chamberlain

2 years ago

We are having the same problem. In the last two years we have to replace 4 bulbs. We realize that this is one year from when you made this comment; have you had any success in getting a recall or dealer compensation or anything?

Karin

Dave Hamner

2 years ago

07 Prius with HID headlight, passenger side quit and came back on a few times in the last month. Mostly it stays on, but I don't trust car companies (any car companies) as far as I can throw them, so as an emergency backup I'm planning to install driving lights with a separate switch. It's cheap insurance! Be safe, each of you, and a happy holiday.

dh

Dean

2 years ago

My Prius is a 2004 and Toyota refuses to admit this is a problem. I feel GREAT frustration and don't really know what to do. It DOES seem like the NHTSA and Toyota have made this problem go away. I hate the fact that someone will have to die (like the floor mat issue) until someone really looks at the prpblem.

I am befuddled.

Jeff MiIler

2 years ago

For automatic updates on Action taken against Toyota on the headlight issue, How to do it yourself, Class Action updates, and other info become a Fan of this page

-http://www.facebook.com/pages/Prius-HID-Class-Action/195351592664?ref=ts

To see a Video on how to change the your headlights yourself for only 50 bucks go to the Facebook Page and watch this video

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QPvUgs9Bgo

James M.

2 years ago

I have a 2007 Prius. At about 45,000 miles the headlights started flickering but would stay on most of the time. The dealer said it was the lightbulb and would cost $350 just for the bulb! Scoundrels!

I was driving on the highway at night at 65mph with traffic and both bulbs went out at the same time! I could have been killed! How dare they let such a defective product and safety issue go unresolved!

Sign me up for the class action lawsuit!

vkf

2 years ago

Walter, did you ever get a response? I was just told by the dealer that the bulbs are under warranty for 3 years/36,000 miles. I had to buy a new bulb and I hope it does not go off and on for 100,000 miles! although I am going to follow up on this investigating situation. The service desk did not mention anything when they sold me the bulb, although I guess they took pity on me and gave me a 15% discount, only $155!!!

Kenneth Bradley

2 years ago

I have two 2006 Prius's. One has the HID headlights and the other does not. I have around 40,000 on each vehicle. The one with HID has already had one bulb replaced by Toyota and now has the same on/off issue. The one without HID has had no problems. I read above where someone said NHTSA has decided there is no safety issue. If there is no safety issue, then why can police issue a ticket for defective safety equipment (one headlight not working)? Anyway, after reading all of the posts, I am going to register with the FTC, NHTSA, and sign on with the Girard Gibbs class action suit. I will give Toyota a chance by calling the 800 number but I had an experience with them before and was not satisfied with the results.

Terri souder

2 years ago

I have a 2007 Prius, there are 42,000 miles on it and my HID bulb just went out. I paid to get that fixed at $300, now the other one just went out a day later. This is ridiculous, any ideas?

EVON JORDAN

2 years ago

I just had a headligt replaced on a 2007 toyota prius for $254.00 any class action lawsuit I would like to be a part of. Toyota should correct the problem. Sometimes while driving at night my light would go out, lucky for me each time my husband was driving ahead of me and called and ask that I turn the lights on and off, of course it would come on then. I to ask the question must someone die before something is done?

evon jordan

2 years ago

Update on the replacement of the headlights on 2007 toyota prius, actually paid $385.- to have both headlights replaced. Initially told $245.- for each, once my husband told them that I was reading on line about the problems with the headlights. Said I should have the other change also, because in a short time will have to have it replaced. Initially said nothing was wrong. Agreed to do both for the amount above. I called Toyota and lodged a complaint, contact the firm about the class action lawsuit and now I will lodge a complaint on NHTSA.

Tom

2 years ago

Dave B - Since when has the Prius been made in America?

eric roche

2 years ago

add my name to the list... passenger light went out...rear left goes out too. 3 tickets later....this is BS. And turning the lights off and on while driving is crazy!

Marie Soler

2 years ago

First off I own a 2007 Prious Touring model with 60,00 miles and originally purchased it to "save money". I had a friend notice recently that my headlight was out but when I checked it there was no problem. That was weeks ago and now, one police warning later, much to my chagrin have attempted to replace the bulb. Easy right...LOL?

After visiting 3 auto parts store to no avail I went into the dealers parts center with the offending light which was easy to remove, if you're an amazingly strong elfin waif of course. This feat was accomplished by my boyfriend's strength, my small hands, a compact mirror along with instructions found on the internet (http://www.wikihow.com/Replace-Headlight-Bulb-on-2005-Prius). I was so proud to have been able to bring in the bulb and was expecting to overpay at least three times as much as the $10 average price of bulbs at the auto parts stores. As I was given the price I stood and stared waiting for the guy to quit joking around. After several moments of this faceoff I realized he was serious and wondered how this guy was able to tell me a light bulb was $159 with the tax and keep a straight face. I found that exact bulb online NEW for $49.99 on ebay (Toyota Prius 06-09 Philips D4R XenEco Xenon BULB) and a similar bulb at 2 for $49.99 (http://www.highperformancebulbs.com/hipexed4rhid.html). I'm going for the twofor since I'm pretter sure I'll be replacing the passenger side soon.

Just hoping this fixes the problem and isn't like the ones described above being a constant intermittant problem.

Hope this helps those who'd rather do it themselves. I can't see how the deler can justify charging so much for a lousy bulb and add insult to injury by charging labor when two non-mechanical people were able to access the bulb on their own within 15-20 minutes with just a screw driver to remove the dust cover. Which by the way removing the dust cover is the only instruction given in the owners manual. Everything else was removable by hand but the online instruction were what did the trick.

Marie Soler

2 years ago

First off I own a 2007 Prious Touring model with 60,00 miles and originally purchased it to "save money". I had a friend notice recently that my headlight was out but when I checked it there was no problem. That was weeks ago and now, one police warning later, much to my chagrin have attempted to replace the bulb. Easy right...LOL?

After visiting 3 auto parts store to no avail I went into the dealers parts center with the offending light which was easy to remove, if you're an amazingly strong elfin waif of course. This feat was accomplished by my boyfriend's strength, my small hands, a compact mirror along with instructions found on the internet (http://www.wikihow.com/Replace-Headlight-Bulb-on-2005-Prius). I was so proud to have been able to bring in the bulb and was expecting to overpay at least three times as much as the $10 average price of bulbs at the auto parts stores. As I was given the price I stood and stared waiting for the guy to quit joking around. After several moments of this faceoff I realized he was serious and wondered how this guy was able to tell me a light bulb was $159 with the tax and keep a straight face. I found that exact bulb online NEW for $49.99 on ebay (Toyota Prius 06-09 Philips D4R XenEco Xenon BULB) and a similar bulb at 2 for $49.99 (http://www.highperformancebulbs.com/hipexed4rhid.html). I'm going for the twofor since I'm pretter sure I'll be replacing the passenger side soon.

Just hoping this fixes the problem and isn't like the ones described above being a constant intermittant problem.

Hope this helps those who'd rather do it themselves. I can't see how the deler can justify charging so much for a lousy bulb and add insult to injury by charging labor when two non-mechanical people were able to access the bulb on their own within 15-20 minutes with just a screw driver to remove the dust cover. Which by the way removing the dust cover is the only instruction given in the owners manual. Everything else was removable by hand but the online instruction were what did the trick.

Mark Svendsen

2 years ago

I just finished replacing the driver side HID on our 2006 Prius. We also own a 2001 and 2005 that have done fine with 190k miles between them, so I am suprised to see the amount of difficulty everyone is having. Using a mirror and being astounded with the work my dentist does while seeing everything in reverse, I got the bulb replaced in about 45 minutes, counting the 20 minutes travel to Advanced Auto parts. I bought a $23 bulb. After reading these posts, I now wish I had found a "better" bulb. I found that inverting the rubber boot helped in getting it into place, then pushed and prodded it into position. We used to take gallbladders out in much the same way, but never had to put one back!

Trudy Schrader

2 years ago

2007 Prius Touring with same problem. Does anyone see a pattern here? Most of us have the passenger side headlight going on again/off again. Was asked if It went out when I hit bumps or went over railroad tracks. NO, there is no pattern to it.
I agree, this is a Toyota problem, did not look to see if in there line up of cars it is only the Prius that is doing this.

They better get on track, lots more brand name hybrid cars coming to the showrooms near us.

roni kendall

2 years ago

after reading all of the entries regarding the 2006 HID headlamps I called the Customer Experience Center at Corporate Toyota.
The agent was very respectful. He told me that since last year's complaints about the Hight density lamps,,, they did research and determined it was a problem specific to the bulbs and not to the central computer module. They don't feel the module should be replaced but said that they did reimburse people who intially had the central module replaced. Now they have reduced the cost of the High Intensity light to be comparable to a normal halogen head light. It appears I will have to pay for labor to replace the bulb. I have been told that in order to have any future follow up support from Toyota regarding my headlights... I will have to go to a dealership to have it replaced. I have a call in to one of my local dealership's Service Manager. The other dealership I went to over the weekend did not tell me anything about the Customer Support Program for the 2006 Prius HID headlamps concerns.
I'll let you know what happens. If you have this concern too, I recommend you call Corp Toyota Customer Service Center at 1-800-331-4331

Stan Virkler

2 years ago

I have the same problem with the driver's side headlights on my 2008 Prius. It kept turning off, and then would go on when I turned the headlights off, and then on. I had it replaced (about $350) about 6 months ago. Three months ago, the brights quit working completely on the driver's side--they work fine on the passenger's side. I am not sure what to do. If you have any ideas, contact me at svirkler@fbibuildings.com.

GoKingsGo

2 years ago

Thanks for all your good comments here.

Mine: 2005 with HID driver side lamp out

When I remove rubber boot I see some kind of silver metal cap over the lamp base and can't seem to get that off of the lamp base. Trying to work this from the top so may need to take bumper cover off, etc.. and remove entire lamp assy as dealer suggests. Is there a site or instruction for this process?

TIA.

GoKingsGo

2 years ago

Answering myself. there is a video on youtube on how to take the bumper off to replace the driver side lamp. Question: Has anyone replaced a 2005 driver side HID from the top and NOT taken the bumper off? thanks in advance.

Wink

2 years ago

We are having the same problem with our 2006 Prius. We love the car but were astounded by the dealerships price of $350.00 to replace the passenger headlight. Any luck confronting Toyota?

Tisha

2 years ago

Hi, I found this site because my Prius headlights suck in the amount of light they give and I was trying to find a fix. I saw all the other posts about the first headlight problem I had, so I thought I should post....

I had to replace my 2006 Prius headlights three times at two different dealerships. The third time, I finally got one of the mechanics to admit that they have a lot of Prius' with headlight problems. I decided to be the squeaky wheel and called Toyota headquarters in Torrance, CA through their 800# several times. After several calls, I got them to replace the headlight again (through a local dealership) and refund me the money for the other two times. I'm pretty sure they replaced something besides the headlight because I haven't had any further issues for two years now.

The rep that helped me was sure to throw in a disclaimer that the money they were refunding was "an act of goodwill" and was not an admittance of an ongoing issue.

Tisha

2 years ago

Hey, same issue here three years ago with my 2006. My car was less than a year old and I replaced my headlights twice and on the third visit to the dealership, a mechanic admitted its a common issue. So instead of replacing it again, I called the 800# on Toyota's site several times (over two weeks) and they finally arranged to have my headlight replaced again. I was the annoying customer caller, but needed to be. They also refunded my money for the other two replacements (I had to fax in receipts) and they made sure to throw in the disclaimer that the money was "an act of goodwill" and not an admittance of an ongoing issue.

I'm positive they replaced something other than the headlight because I haven't had the issue since 2007.

On another note, I don't think the Prius headlights give off enough light. Any fixes, please let me know.

GoKingsGo

2 years ago

FWIW:

I changed out my 2005 driver HID light myself without taking the bumper off. Watch the YouTube video to see how the lamp asszembly/housing comes apart and you can actually stick your hand in there and do it from the top. You will need to remove the fuse box cpover and the nearest two big fuses to get leverage. Also, a small mirror to look at the wire pins, etc... help also. It took me all of 4o minutes.

PePBoys has the HID lamp (Osram 35w 4300) bulb for $119. You can get it online cheaper but I wanted it today.

Good luck!

GG

2 years ago

About the 2004 headlights. According to the owners manual you don't have to take off the bumper to put in a new headlight. I had my local mechanic do it for thirty bucks. I put in the hot blue lights and now one blew out or maybe the wire is loose but check out the manal and you will see that you merely take off the front cover and then unplug the connector. The unplugging of the connector is tricky and I don't know the name of the tool. Its kind of a sideways plier. So yeah either do it yourself with the user manual or bring it to the local guy who you trust, (there are so many bad mechanics out there) and have them do it.

DAVE MORTON

2 years ago

I just got a letter from Toyota saying that they will reimburse anybody who has had to replace the headlight bulbs etc. and the headlight ECU if you had to replace that, though they admit it didn't need to be replaced. They are also dropping the price of the bulb to $150 as they realized the other price was to high.
I fought with them for two months before they reimbursed me for the price of my bulb replacement, which was actually $480.
So everybody here who kept hounding them payed off in the end.
Good job, and good luck.

Bob Young

2 years ago

I got my letter also. This does not fix the problem. The lights still go out and Toyota makes $300.00 in parts, not including labor. Its a pacification of the REAL problem. I'm glad that those who paid for unnecessary repairs are getting reimbursed, but we still need to keep up the pressure for a recall on this problem. As I read the entries, seems to me that even replacing bulbs does not correct the problem as many times folks have to have work done several times? Join the Class Action @ http://www.girardgibbs.com/Prius.asp?_kk=prius%20headlight%20hid&_kt=c46...

Mick

2 years ago

I've been reading all of these comments about the problems with the headlamps on the Prius, here, and on other websites. I don't have a Prius, but have been shopping for a pre-owned one. I've wanted a Prius for a long time, but, after reading all of this, I think I'll just have to settle for a Civic Hybrid :-(. I'm so dissappointed, but I can't afford a car with such an expensive problem. Besides, all of this has shaken my confidence in Toyota, along with the "floormat problem", and I've read many complaints of the paint chipping too easily. I'm very dissappointed in Toyota. I wonder if they're having the same problems with the ones that are made in Japan? Sad. I think I'll call Toyota and let them know how their terrible handling of all of this has affected my decision. I hope you all win that class action law suit!

tony spina

2 years ago

Well it seems I just joined hundreds of Prius owners on on this "rip Off" on replacing a headlight bulb. First off at 80 years old, I am not crawling under the car, or open the hood to go inside of the engine compartment unit to fix it even if I knew how. The next real problem was stopped by police and detained about 20 minutes checking to be sure my car was not stolen??Then I turned the deadlights on & off and sure enough the left (drivers side) went on, but the officer said I must give you a ticket as there was no light on when I was stopped. I had to have the light replaced in 24 hours to have the summons voided out. So off I went to the dealer. who are nice enough to the tune of $150.00 for the bulb, plus $80 for labor plus tax. for a grand total of $250.00. I was tole this was a real bargin as the bulb has a $300 retail, and Toyota people are giving us a break. I think ( hard to recall) but in my 62 years of driving, I might have replaced a seal beam once, if at all. Oh, I forgot the passengers side looked dim and they suggested I replace that bulb also. So whatever money I saved on gas ( reason why I bought the 2007 Prius,
just went out the window). As soon as things change around a bit and see what the other makers are doing, like Ford or Chevy, thats when the Prius gets traded in. I see by the hundred of letters posted here, it is a waste of time, to even consider Toyota to do a recall I see it does not pay to be loyal and have all your work done at the dealer, like oil change, tire rotation etc.So this is where we get seperated, and for good reason

d morgan

2 years ago

Gary,
You say you have learned how to replace you bulbs. My passenger side bulb is out but when I try to replace it, the W/S washer tank is in the way. Do you have any suggestions on how to remove it?

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2 years ago

You need a screwdriver (phillips) and if you have a power screwdriver, even better.

You need to remove the plastic cover from the front bumper. It's held on by about 14 screws. A few on top, but most on the underside of the bumper. You will need to lay on the ground, on your back to get at them, so you want to do this INDOORS.

After the bumper trim is off, you will see the screws that hold the "Headlight Assembly" in place. That's the whole unit that contains the headlight, turn signal and parking light.

You unscrew and pull forward (gently) the whole headlight assembly, and then just take the bulb out of the back, it's a quarter-turn lock.

Then re-assemble.

There is NOT enough room behind the headlight to remove it while the headlight assembly is mounted in the car.

With a power screwdriver, about a 20 minute job. If you have to take all those screws out and back with a hand screwdriver, you will need to go slow, or have a very strong wrist.

Andy

2 years ago

I've had two Prius'. My 2006 has headlight problems. I too, love my Prius, and came here to get instructions on how to install my own headlight. Shouldn't we send this site to Consumer's - Newspapers, etc. Think people should be informed about this problem, so they can decide if an Insight might be a better deal.
Maybe if this problem showed up on a CAR TV show - Toyota would due a recall - like the brakes.....

MaxPrius

2 years ago

I have a 2007 Prius. Both headlights have gone out, one at about 35K (which was under warranty). The second went out at about 39K and I called Toyota. Toyota (via a woman named Heather who said she is a Chicago regional manager) led me to believe they would cover the cost of the repair because this is a "known issue," but I had to pay for the repair upfront. It cost $230 at a Chicago-area dealer. After the repair, Heather said Toyota would cover parts at $150, but not labor, which is not what they initially led me to believe. The bottom line is this is a Toyota problem - clearly they purchased and installed subquality headlights - and there should be a recall. Contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration hotline at 888-327-4236 or online at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm to file a complaint, even if you've done the repairs. I just did. Also, if you have this problem, make sure you contact Toyota headquarters at 800-331-4331 to make them pay for at least part of it. Heather, if you're in Chicagoland, is at x73833. Just don't believe her if she says Toyota will pay for the whole thing.

david allen

2 years ago

Yes what you say is true. With a few false ideas. What i look at when buying a car, is first who gets the money. Since the 1960 and 1970, and 1980 kids are buying German and japan our quality of life keeps going down hill. The $13000 that my dad made per year I need to make $87000 to live the same life. my kids have nothing till I die and give them my million dollars. This is money i have saved by buing American cars and driving them 20 years plus. Sure Toy and Bmw, etc are made in USA. At farm land that we got food from. Less farm land, higher prices for food. Lost thousands of jobs when our factories closed, but german and japan gave us a few hundend jobs when they came here. Also sure some parts last longer on those cars, but if they cost $$$$ more than American cars savings are gone.Lastly people say americans are poor quality. Well who is working at the german, japan car places in the USA? Also does that mean you in your job isn't doing the best you can?
Go to japan and german and see all the cars made in USA, england, Italy. No way. these countries protect thier industries first then screw Ameican. We don't need another world war. We will lose when the other countries stop shipping products to us. I could go on and on, but keep buying japan. I am in the last 20 years of my life and will be able to still live the american dream. I am just sad that i had children and there life is not as good as I had.

Joe Chiaraluce

2 years ago

Same problem with the headlamps. Add me to any list for a class action suit.

Erica

2 years ago

Add another "yup" to the list.

I have a '04 Prius with about 110K miles.
Never had to replace the headlights before.

One headlight and one foglight were out, so I chose to replace both headlights (to leverage some of the labor cost) and the one foglight.

Estimate was just under $600.
I'm actually thinking I got a bargain for 3 lights compared to what some have paid for 1.

But, this still feels like robbery.
My expectation was to spend $100-200, max.

Hopefully I'll be able to go another 100K miles before having to replace these!! Ouch!!

Jo

2 years ago

Same headlight issue. We took it to the dealer and they said the headlight ECU needed to be replaced. That was under warranty, but after an entire day wasted at the dealership getting the car serviced the problem still remains. Now they want $500 to replace the headlight - similar to what other people have stated here.

I just submitted my contact info to get updates on the class action suit, thanks for posting the link.

http://www.girardgibbs.com/Prius.asp?_kk=prius%20headlight%20hid&_kt=c46

James White

2 years ago

I have the flickering headlight on the passenger side. I just received a letter from Toyota stating that you only need to replace the bulb for these problems and they have decreased the cost of the bulb from 300 to 150 saying that 300 was excessive. I would say that both are excessive.

Michele

2 years ago

2007 Prius headlights went out on a dark mountain road.

Billy Bob (not Thornton)

2 years ago

Well it took me quite a while, but i read this blog completely through. My assessment on this whole thing; not a bulb problem, something prior to that in the circuit path. Headlight problems in the non HID systems also, make me lean that way. I've owned a multitude of cars in my 35 years of driving, and the # of times i've had to change a headlight, other than a result of an accident, can be counted on 1 hand! Headlights generally last quite a while. Most cars i've owned never needed replacements. Toyota, (in my humble opinion), is trying to "weasel out" of any responsibility. I just received "the letter" offering a 50% discount on bulbs. A move to appease the submissive, not admitting fault on their part. AND, they're still making profit on the bulbs they sell! HELLO AMERICA, WAKE UP!!! The # of people having to replace multiple times, of short lifespan timeframes, tells the story. I'll try to get results from my dealer this week, although i don't have a "warm, fuzzy" feeling about it, LOL! Mine is an '06, with less than 40K miles. The driver's side is the fickle one. Works, goes out, comes back, etc., etc....TOTAL B.S., a definite safety issue, and one that Toyota should research, find a fix, and "pony up" the complementary repairs for all owners!!! Wish me luck with a "comp" fix this week. Because if that's not the case, i'll do things myself. AND, should that happen, i'll post exactly what i find out doing it, right here, for at least all '06 owners to benefit from! OH YES... Let's all notify NTSB, NHTSA & Toyota corporate about this travesty, make some noise before someone does get killed from "lights out"!!!

Dx

2 years ago

I also love my 07 Prius, but the headlights have become horrible.

One shuts down. I turn them on and off and they both run fine for a while. Then it shuts off again or maybe the other shuts down or sometimes they both go off and I'm driving in darkness.

I'm currently at the dealership and they ate jut giving me the run around. It's horrible. They quoted 4 hundred plus dollars to fix it and I told them exactly how ridiculous that was. I have been a loyal customer of Keyes Toyota and done all my servicing there, that will nit be the case now.

The service guy asked if I had had any other problems with the car!!!! Haaa. I said no. But I guess they think that makes this maaaaajor problem ok. So lame!!!!

Extremely Beyond Words Frustrated,

Dx

Shirley

2 years ago

Yes, I too have been a victim to Toyota's malfunctioning headlamps. I do love my Prius, but for my headlamps to go out intermittently, unpredictably, and without warning is not just a flaw in the design. It becomes criminal intent when complaints have been filed yet nothing has been done by the manufacturer.
My husband mentioned to me that he thought I had a lamp out, but when I drove the car both headlamps worked One night when returning home I noticed I was not able to see very well, but I attributed it to dirty lenses. The following day as I started my car I made notice that my headlamps were operational and was determined to clean the lenses that evening. While I was driving to work (in the dark) I rounded a corner and I once again could not see very well, so I stopped to car, kept the engine running, and checked the headlamps. One of the headlamps had gone out. I turned the control off then on again and both lamps worked. This has been a situation that has been repeated over the past week.
Does it take a horrible accident with a death for Toyota to own the responsibility of fixing this problem. Do I really have to say: Having working headlamps is a fundamental function for driving a safe automobile.
If it cannot be remedied then Toyota will have to let someone else come up with a safe product that is also environmentally friendly.
I am not even going to talk about the ridiculous cost of replacement bulbs!

Denis Abercrombie

2 years ago

I've had the same problems with my Xenon headlights on my 2006 Prius. Replaced them for big bucks after only 18 months and now one of them is "winking" and fading off and on again. Today, I got a letter from Toyota that helps some - they are issuing $150 refunds for folks that have replaced this before at a Toyota dealer; also they found their dealerships replacing a related part when it was not necessary (an ECU, or Electronic Control Unit) - for which they are issuing full refunds. Also, they have cut the price on the bulbs going forward.

Lam Nguyen

2 years ago

I have an 05 Prius w/ 120,000 miles on it when the passenger headlight went out. It was not a HID so the dealer charge $120 to replace it, becasue they have to take out the bumper and everything else to get to it. 1 hr of labor.

Now at 127,717 miles I had a new problem. I could not stop the engine when push the "start/stop" button on the dash. I then leave the engine on in Park for about 30 minutes. Then I can turn it off. Does this cover by warranty? does any body ran into this problem.?

Thanks,
Lam

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2 years ago

I'm guessing with more than 100,000 miles, you are out of warranty. But I would ask the dealer if it is under warranty before authorizing work on it.

My first guess at it is that you are developing a short in the push button itself. It would be like developing a short in the ignition switch in any other car.

In the meantime, you can try this: try pushing and holding the start/stop button down for at least 3 seconds and see if that kills the engine. Pushing and holding the button down should kill the engine even if the car is in motion. If that doesn't kill the engine, you should have it looked at right away because that's a safety feature.

Dave Kelly

2 years ago

Whole Toyota and lights thing reminds me of how the US carmakers handled people in the 70s, early eighties...
Anybody remember how that worked out for them?

Well…I replaced the driver-side HID bulb on my ‘07 Prius yesterday. It was an adventure!

To start, I'm in Central Minnesota (St. Cloud), working in an unheated garage, .in January. So I had to take a few breaks to warm up (I thought about replacing the passenger side also, but it’s still working and weather might be warmer when it goes).

When YOU try it, borrow a couple of steel ramps. I started with nothing, then used a jack to raise the driver's side and let it down on blocks - place at the base of the driver's side wheel strut (never work under a car that is only supported by a jack – could be fatal).

Equipment:
I used a 3/8-inch drive ratchet with a 10mm socket and a short extension for all the screws (except I used a Phillips head screwdriver for the two rubber bumpers on top of the bumper cover in the engine compartment).
A small, straight screwdriver to remove the plastic pins in the wheel well and the three plastic pins at the top of the bumper cover in the engine compartment

Turn the steering wheel all the way to the left.

Start in the wheel well. I only partially removed the wheel well molding:
At the bottom of the wheel well molding there is another small piece of black plastic molding. It and the bottom of the wheel well molding are held on by two screws. Remove them. Set the molding in a safe place (do a better job than I did of keeping track of which pins and screws go where and your reassembly will be easier than mine).

Now you can see the rest of the screws and pins holding the wheel well molding in place. I only removed the ones over the front half of the tire. The tricky one was in a niche to the inside of the wheel well molding.

Then wrestle the wheel well molding away from the bumper cover (towards the midline of the car).

Next, go across the bottom of the bumper cover. There’s another piece of black plastic molding beneath the front of the bumper cover. Remove the visible screws – (maybe 5,6 or 7?) and set the molding in a safe place.

There are more screws above that piece of molding. I removed another black plastic cover, adjacent to that molding so I could remove them (But I’m not sure I needed to. I think I might have been able to get those other screws just by pulling that black plastic cover down a little bit). To do just the driver’s side light, I left the screw closest to the passenger side wheel.

Along the bottom of the bumper cover there are plastic clips. I freed the bumper cover from the clips

Now go to the engine compartment. There’s a black plastic panel over the front of the engine compartment. It’s held on by 4 or 5 plastic pins with Phillips head slots. Put upward pressure on the panel and turn the pin slightly with a Phillips head screwdriver. They should pop up. You may need to help a little with a straight screwdriver, Set the panel aside.

Remove the three plastic pins and two screwed-in rubber bumpers across the top of the car’s bumper cover

Now go back to the driver’s side wheel well again…this is the SCARY part! You do NOT want to break that bumper cover!

Grab the bumper cover at the lowest point in the wheel well. Pull down a little.. and out a little…then pop it out with your other fist (with as little force as necessary).

I used gentle pressure to flex the bumper cover enough to get at the screws which hold the headlight fixture in place. There are three – one under the top of the bumper cover; one close to the hood hinge and the third is hiding under the bumper cover where the front of the bumper cover curves toward the driver’s side wheel. Flex the bumper cover just enough to slip your 10mm socket and short ratchet extension between the bumper cover and the fender to remove the third.

Remove the electrical sockets that are highest on the back of the headlight fixture (running light and turns signal I think).

Gently flex the bumper cover with one hand and remove the headlight fixture.

Now you can easily detach the electrical socket for the headlight.

Turn the big black plastic cover to remove it; Turn the shiny steel electrical connector to remover it; release the spring wires that secure the bulb and remover it.

Now put in the new bulb (remember not to touch the glass of the bulb…or if you do, gently wipe clean with alcohol and a soft cloth).

Put everything back together.

I spent three hours at this. The bulb cost about $38 delivered on Ebay ($76 for two).

With these instructions, and a nice warm place to work, I think you could do it in an hour or less.

Even better Prius owners…. help each other…

I can help you do your first, then you can help someone else do their first etc, etc.

None of us want Toyota and the Toyota dealer making money off their mess.

will gehling

2 years ago

I need to replace my passenger bulb on 04 Prius. I have repositioned the washer reservoir, and I can reach the back of the headlight, but I can't see enough to remove bulb. What's the trick?
Will

bill

2 years ago

I replaced a driver side headlight in my 2007 Prius last week. What takes about 53 min on any other car I have had took about 45 min. I didn't a fender off or take the fusebox out but I wished I could have.
There is a trick.:
1. You have to have a strong back to support you for the 45 min it takes to fiddle with it leaning over the front grill. It also helps if your hands are small and strong, not big like mine. It also helps if you are blind because most of this must be done by feel.
2. Start by looking into the headlight to observe the position and orientation of the lamp base. Remember it.
3. Take off the black plastic front cover-not strictly necessary, but it is the easiest part of this. Turn the retainer, I think, 1/4 turn and pull them up, then pull out the larger part - a standard auto fastener.
4. Pull off the lamp connector
5. Then twist the boot outer ring CCW (I think) about 1/4 turn. Remember what this position looks and feels like.
6. Then pull the boot off the lamp. It is not easy, but that is what it does - pull off.
7. Unclip the retaining spring on the back of the lamp. Only one side unclips and it will move out of the way and stay retained on the other.
8. Remove bulb.
9. Replace bulb WITHOUT touching the surface of the new bulb. This goes strickly by feel, and u can look into the headlight to see if it is oriented correctly.
10. Replace the clip - again strickly by feel as u cannot see any of this thru your hand.
11. Orient the boot in approximately the right position and push the end onto the bulb base.
12. Place the outer ring of the boot in position (very tricky - this took the longest to get right) Once in position rotate it back to the lock position. Note, make sure it is fully seated before you turn - It won't break it but you'll just have to repeat.
13. place connector onto bulb contacts.
14. Replace the black plastic cover.

Good luck.

Sherrye Chapin

2 years ago

2007 Prius...same tune here...both sides go out intermittently. Got the letter from Toyota too. Lost my job last year and can't afford to pay the huge price to replace the light bulbs! Hubby is not mechanically inclined in any way and is 65 years old...likely would not want to even attempt the task.

I think we will try the recommendation of calling the cust experience line as recommended above and see if we can get any satisfaction!

Tim Wallace

2 years ago

I literally just changed my girlfriends headlights on her 2008 Prius package 2 in 8 minutes WITHOUT removing the bumper. The HID lights are just a scam from toyota but if you are lucky and have the headlights that are still consumer friendly, this is REALLY EASY. The hardest part of the entire job was replacing the boot on the driver side light. let me tell you, I am not a small handed person and tihs would be alot easier if i had small hands, but it can be sone by large men. First, remove the wiring harness from theback of the headlight. This may be a little tough, but can be wiggled off. It does not have a clip or button to push so the harness just pulls off. Second and the most tricky part on both sides is to completely remove the boot from the light before removing the headlight. THIS JUST POPS OFF AND ON. The problem is that it is a little tough because it is a very tight seal. removing the boot gives you very easy access to the clip that holds ths light in the bezel. To remove the clip there is a small loop on the top side of the bulb, on the passenger side OF BOTH LIGHTS that you press and pull it up. the light will come right out after this clip is removed. Simply put the new light back in and do the above in reverse. INSURE that you put the boot back on very tightly. (For the driver side, you need to remove the cap to the fuse box. It is held on by 3 clips. 2 on the rear and 1 in the front. For the passenger side you have to remove the right side of the upper shroud [one push pin] and a peice of intake tube [another push pin].) Learning how to do this WILL save you $200 because that is Toyota's minium labor for this project. I do not know, but it could be similar to do the HID lights. The lights I changed lasted fro 100,000 miles and the passenger side wnet out. I reccomend changing both though and this is why I did the driver side as well. horror stories I have heard and read about the HID lights is that they go out at 50,000 miles or less and the bulbs alone are very expensive. The cost of the bulbs in my application was $20 adn the time was less than ten minutes. Questions e mail me at timdwallace@gmail.com

Dave Kelly

2 years ago

For people using the method - not removing the bumper cover ( I gave this a good try, but couldn't do it).

In retrospect, there was no reason the wiring harness needs to be removed - When you turn the black plastic cover off, It can stay attached.

If I hadn't tried to take of that first plastic connector, maybe I could have done it this blind way

Dave Kelly

2 years ago

Where are you located?

I may be able to find someone that can help you

Dave Kelly

2 years ago

For the method without removing the bumper cover (I gave it a good try, but couldn't do it)...

In retrospect, the first plastic electrical connector probably doesn't need to be remove. Just turn the black plastic cover 1/4 turn counter-clockwise and remove both together.

The next connector (shiny metal if you can see it, just inside the larger black plastic cover) is also a 1/4 turn counterclockwise off

Knowing that (you probably wouldn't if you use the blind method) should make getting that on and off more easy.

baffled

2 years ago

If you think your a pidgeon then spare a thought for those of us whos wives own volkswagen beetles.Wife notices that for some unexplicable reason her headlight is sitting on the driveway beside the car.further investigation reveals it is in fact the clear plastic cover that protects the headlight which would appear to have some type of gasket that bonds to the metal guard.Off i trot down to the local vee-dub dealer who after having the car for two days cant seem to get the thing to bond to the metal again,Oh well i will order another one says the service manager.I respond rather sharply how much?His response would suggest i wanted shares in volkswagen.Approx $500 says the service manager.Hmmm.Why so much i ask.Well its brand new & is coming all the way from sydney he responded.I then asked if that was by private Limo.Anyway i will be glad to swap your bill for mine anytime

Barbara Bouldin

2 years ago

I have the same problem with my 2006 Prius. You cannot tell me that this is just a bulb problem. First the left headlight goes off and immediately will go back on as soon as you turn the lights off and on...on other days it's the right headlight that does the same thing. The scariest thing is when BOTH go off at the same time! When you are traveling on a dark country road, this is DEFINITELY A SAFETY ISSUE. I am livid. Toyota dealer told me today that there is no recall, just a notification...get this: they will give us a break and only charge me $150 a bulb each instead of the usual $300 each and oh, yes it will cost $200 in labor to replace them. I asked if it wasn't the bulb, but an electrical issue, would they refund me the money for the false fix. They said no. I do not have $500 to fix this issue. It is definitely a Prius issue, a Toyota issue and they ought to fix it.

Steven Schmidt

2 years ago

I have the same problem. what did you end up doing? thanks

Steven

2 years ago

this is going to be a class action suit

Ralph

2 years ago

Man, I am sorry but happy there are so many Prius owners that are having the same problem that I am just now experiencing. It's unfortunate that so many Prius owners are having the same problem, but I am glad that there is so much information coming from you. I have a 2008 and thought I was going crazy with the flickering lights since I only had around 40k miles on a car a little over two years old. I had no idea that the bulbs at the dealership were $150, reduced from the original $300 price until I received the "solution" letter.

I have not read all of the postings, so I may have missed the answer to my question. Can someone tell me where to purchase the HID bulbs that goes on the Prius for a reasonable price? I would prefer to purchasse over the internet since I don't know the location of all of these postings.

Prissilla Lopez

2 years ago

Same problem regarding headlights. I have replaced 8 bulbs, with an aftermarket bulb from O'Reiley. Cost $8.40 BUT the lights go out after a wk or two. Very fustrating!! I finally broke down and went to the dealer today. $506 was the cost to replace both bulbs. What a rip off. I guess they figure we will get tired of replacing them and the hassel of the work to replace the bulbs. What a headache. Please add my name to your list. Other than this problem w the headlights, I have no other complaints about the prius.

John N

2 years ago

I'm under 36K miles & under 3 years on a 2007 prius and both headlights are blinking out.

Are they going to charge me or this covered under the basic warranty?

Bill ELk

2 years ago

I have a 08 Prius level 2 so I don't think I have HID, just regular. Can u clerify bumper cover. Is this the entire plastic piece tha goes around the front of the car?? I am pretty handy but this sounds relaay complicated?

Bill

Susan Galbraith

2 years ago

My husband and I have the same problem with our 2004 Prius. In November 2008 we went to the dealer and said the driver side headlight goes off intermittently. When we switch the lights off and then on again, the headlight comes back on. The dealer said the bulb was going bad and quoted $340 to fix it. We decided to wait. The problem continued, without getting worse, until December 2009, when we got a ticket for having the headlight out.

Back to the dealer, where we described the problem again and were told the price had gone up, so now the headlight bulb alone is $375, before installation. We expressed skepticism that the bulb could have been almost burned out for over a year and they said they would run a diagnostic procedure for $90 to see if their hypothesis was correct.

The next day they said Yes, the bulb was going bad. We paid them $598 for the diagnostics, bulb, installation and NYS sales tax, and on the way home the new bulb did exactly the same thing as the only bulb, only it went out MORE OFTEN!

Now they say that Toyota has issued some directive that they should have replaced the controller at the same time of the bulb. The controller will cost another $300 but they will kindly install it for free. And by the way, Toyota recommends that when they replace one controller they should replace both of them, so another $300.

That would be a total of $1200 to fix one flickering headlight. No thank you! I would rather have a tractor mechanic install auxiliary lights on top of the hood and then explain to anyone who asks WHY I have defaced my beautiful Prius. What a crock!

Julie in Utah

2 years ago

I have the same problem with my drivers side light in my 2006 prius. Ive been unemployed for a year and cant afford the 200 dollars to fix the one bulb even though its a lot less than a lot of you paid. If they are going to put in 200 dollar light bulbs, they better last 10 years! My teenage daughter drives the car a lot and I shutter when I think of the possibility of both lights going out on her! I would never have bought the car if I knew about this problem.

On top of the light bulb issue, my mileage has dropped to about 39 gallons a mile for no apparent reason. The dealer supposed checked all the possibilities and found nothing wrong. So...I should have bought a Honda or a Jetta I guess. Im very disappointed!!! And I miss my Ford Escape!

Going to try the Toyota Customer Service line tomorrow. Thanks for the tips and please post any updates anyone gets!

Julie

Paul T. Ivancie

2 years ago

I have posted numerous times (above) concerning my Odyssey on these headlamps.
1. Replacement cost for the HID capsule is about 50 bucks online.
2. The front of the vehicle does not have to be disassembled. Lamps can be replaced from the engine compartment, if one is reasonably mechanically proficient (although it helps greatly to have small hands with some dexterity.) Only some minor disassembly is required. And a small mirror certainly helps.
3. Numerous comments above on the safety concerns are accurate and I think that everyone concerned is justifiably indignant at the apparent intransigence of Toyota Motors. A pox on them!
4. The company can be coaxed into replacing the lamps for free, if one has the patience and determination. In my case, I now have over 100K miles on my car, and I think that I have exhausted my "freebie" status.
5. My passenger lamp is going out at odd times now, so I bought two replacement HID capsules over the Internet for 100 bucks. I am reluctant to replace the lamps (I will replace both, even though only one is acting up) in the dead of winter, so I carry the replacements on board, to show to any gendarme who may stop me. Meanwhile, I have accumulated almost 10,000 miles with the light working most of the time just fine...
6. Since I have run out of warrantee, I purchased and installed an aftermarket EV MODE switch. It works great, but unfortunately does not help much on gas mileage. But it is nice to be able to put the car into "stealth mode" whenever I want.

Jeff

2 years ago

Go to this link and become a facebook fan to stay informed. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Prius-HID-Class-Action/195351592664?ref=ts
Info Page - HOW TO CHANGE THE BULBS FOR $50

Brek Poynor

2 years ago

Nothing against American made products but I have owned Chevy and Ford vehicles in the past. Buying 'American' does not keep you away from 'weird problems.' And, getting weird problems fixed in American made cars are equally pricey.

D O

2 years ago

Have xenon lights, passenger light on some days off others on, random. Took it to dealer 3 times, of course each time it was on. They said, "can't help you when nothing is wrong". I showed them that the bad light burned in a yellowish color while the drivers light was clearly white. Service guy claimed not to see what I was talking about, so I went into the mechanics area and asked one to take a look, he immediately noticed the different color and suggested they test the temperature that the bad light was putting off with some light temperature testing gizmo they have. THAT WAS THE KEY! Once they tested and saw that the bad light was burning way too hot, the service dick/guy said, "OK, it seems your light is defective, it is covered under the 36/3 warranty, we'll have it finished in 10 minutes". Good luck!

Patricia

2 years ago

Same problem I purchased 06 Prius in Jan 09 with 19K miles, several weeks later the driver side light went out, several people stopped me telling me about it. Then it fixed itself and I have driven to 32397 miles and it is starting again. Went out at night and today light is working again. I purchased an extended warranty before 36/3 was expired. I called the dealer yesterday and he said due to call volume he is receiving he can not help me and to call 1-800-228-8559 to find out what the extended warranty will cover. I called and they said would not cover head lamp bulbs or assembly. Would cover wiring and computer. I called the dealer back and left a message yesterday but they have not called back dealing with too many recalls. I signed up for the class action suit and called 1-800-331-4331 to file a complaint and get a case number, but they too will not take calls due to high volume. I may try to just drive to the dealer but the lines are probably unbelievable. For now I will not drive in the rain or at night until I can get this resolved. I live in Oceanside, Ca just outside San Diego. I anyone has a better solution I would appreciate hearing about it, and thank you for reading.

Rudy

2 years ago

Go to Auto Zone to buy your light bulbs, for standard bulbs it cost $15.99, for a set $22.99. For High Intensity it cost $17.99 for a set it cost $34.99 and install them your self, it's not hard just a little tight.

mark yerke

2 years ago

08 Prius. Same intermittent headlight problem as above on both lights.

Thank you to everyone on this chain of comments.

I will report back once I do my due diligence. It will be interesting to see what happens now that Toyota's problems are front page news.

Roger S.

1 year ago

PAY ATTENTION closely. A 2006 Prius. Headlight out while driving. Common in ANY car. Flicked to brights, worked; then 100% out while driving in darkness. Flicked back; 1 headlight worked. Flicked brights; 100% worked, then 100% out while driving. Naturally, flicked back from brights backed to 1 headlight. Dealer did between $400-$500 in repairs that Corporate Toyota covered. Dealer said problem was a bad bulb of course AND FAULTY resistor for the assembly. I apologize to all fellow Prius owners that I haven't filed a complaint with the NHTSA yet. I hope no one has crashed yet and got hurt. I'm busy so I haven't filed, but I promise I will between now and 4 July. I believe this is potentially way worse than the break story going on and I don't want anyone to lose their freedom forever!!!

Roger S.

1 year ago

Check for my lengthy post on here, I believe it will help with your problem!!! Mine is a 2006, so it's basically the exact same car.

Roger S.

1 year ago

Julie, I don't want to give you advise due to legal reasons, but I can tell you that if one bulb goes out it should get fixed right away. I made the mistake once of turning my brights on after mine burnt out and then all my lights eventually stopped working (see my more lengthy post on here). My repairs were between $400 & $500. My factory warranty was still good at the time, but I was lucky corporate Toyota paid for it because normally a light bulb isn't covered due to it being a user maintenance item. Just remember though parts are costly, but your child's life is priceless.

Don Queen

1 year ago

The RF headlight on my 2008 Prius is intermittent. Neither the dim or bright work until I shut the car off and start agian.

It's happended twice so far

I have 44000 miles, I guess I have a problem

Bud

1 year ago

Many models of Toyotas are made in America you dinosaur.

ms

1 year ago

Here's the latest.

Toyota of San Bernardino, Ca. (Where I bought TWO brand new Vehicles on the SAME Day):

"It's my fault that the lights have gone out. We've experienced no similar problems." and "We're not aware of any letter from Toyota, you'll have to show us."

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Glendora, Ca. Toyota Dealer:

HID Light Bulbs: $179.00 X 2 = $358.00 (w/o Tax @ 9.75%)
4 hours of mechanics time = $500.00 (w.o Tax @ 9.75%)

ATTITUDE = YOU BET! No one should have to put up with this type of BS from a Dealer!

Total = >$1000.00

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Local Mechanic:

HID Light Bulbs: $125.00 X 2 = $250.00 (w/o Tax @ 9.75%)
1.75 Hours of mechanics time = $131.00 (w/o Tax @ 9.75%)

Followed the recommended procedures for Removing and Replacing as called out by the dealer manuals.

Total = <$400.00

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Here is the kicker. BASE models (mine is a pkg-4) came without HID. You can replace the entire headlight assembly, covers, relays and connections for less than $350.00 and never have to deal with a HID screwing ever again!

OBTW..... the Non-HID headlamp assembly gives you more room (not much, but more is more) to remove and replace the bulbs, and the bulbs only cost $19.00 at the local Track Auto.

Think we're getting the straight scoop from Toyota? Think again. They're laughing all the way to the bank with our hard earned money.

.... And we're letting them!

allan birmantas

1 year ago

I am beginning to wonder about some of these horror stories about $500 headlaps.I called my dealer and found that a halogen bulb is $45 and labor $80.00.A far cry from what I read here.I have a 2007 Prius and as far as I know,the 2004-2009 models are the same.

Bill Stimson

1 year ago

Since the president of Toyota is supposed to testify at a congressional hearing (this week, I think), has anyone contacted their congressman/senator about our headlight issue? It might not make it on the agenda, but worth a shot.

Cheryl

1 year ago

Really ~ cause I owned a Ford Contour in the late '90s and I had one repair after another (living up to its moniker, fix or repair daily) ... I flipped my lid when I was told that the headlight components were going to cost me $450 EACH to replace. I had pinhole leaks in each, with dirt accumulating. I asked if they could just open them up and rinse them out. No go. That was the last straw for me!

Denny

1 year ago

Toyota Dealership Service means good and stable quality, except its price. As well as dealer workshops in quality, it is worth to select an independent repair shop which owns reliable scan tools and know-how but with very competitive price. To take models to independent repair shops is my first choice after warranty. Do you have the same comment? If so, how do you select repair shops for your car? Could you share any tips?

JC

1 year ago

I have a 2008 Prius and suffering from the same blinking headlights issue and also being ripped off by dealer for dealing with it and also being declined a refund by Toyota, Well this is my last Toyota vehicle! good luck for them finding customers for the scam boxes!

This should cause a product recall and not be pushed into customer pockets!

I do hope this does not end causing deaths and accidents like any of the other defects they swept under the rug with other cars, I do encourage those of you having these issues to file a report with the NHTSA or any other pertaining goverment agencies

Julian B

1 year ago

I have the same problem with the headlights of my 2006 Prius. They go off and on at whim. The dealer wants to replace both of the bulbs. It seems unreasonable that a bulb that goes on and off for almost a year needs replacement. The hundreds of similar complaints
seem to indicate a design or wiring defect and by this time Toyota should have made a design fix. I guess some one has to be killed in an accident before they will make a correction.

Susie

1 year ago

2007 Prius. Wow, I thought I had done alot of research on the Prius before buying this used one for problems. I must have missed this site. If I had only have known! We are repeat Toyota customers for years.....they have now lost our business for good. Dec 2009 got our 12 volt battery replaced (no problem)...next day....headlight problems, just like everyone else is reporting. I drive at nite and in the early morning hours in the dark..and when they first went out that next day, I almost went off the highway. Panic was the only word I can think off and I quickly turned off and on lights and they came back on....I thought I must have hit something on steering ...and calmed down and went down the highway to only have it happened again.......on and off I did the lights........this happens every morning/nite......took it for the oil change at 53000 miles yesterday at Larry Miller Toyota in Peoria, AZ.......I told them the problem the day after the 12 volt battery was put in...the light problem.....service guy said it was a common problem they are having with Prius'...........said it would cost $500 to replace.....we don't have $500........and beside the cost was outragious. They said it is mostly the labor cost....and they would have to take my bumper off the car.......what?????.........we wished we never bought this car. Previous postings.....saving gas vs getting lights replace....?? I will buy American next time...it will be my first, but I can't waiting to get rid of this car.......I posted a complaint with the gov't and now I am going to call Totoya customer service who aren't at all friendly...........

Susie

1 year ago

Allan,
See my post. I just went to the dealership yesterday......yep $500 to replace. I didn't have them do it because of the cost. We have owned 7 Toyota's but this is the worse yet...I am very disappointed in my 2007 car.........the service guy said it is a common problem with Prius'.....and the cost is expensive..........yep.......$500........reason he said is it they have to drop the bumper, etc.

christopher Nichols

1 year ago

just take the top of the fuse box off. unscrew the rubber cap (it says open-close on it). After you unscrew the rubber cap, remove the latch (small silver metal peace). Pull bulb out.

take the new bulb and put it in the correct spot. put rubber cap back on (tricky) with the 3 prongs out of the slot so you can plug it in.

TOYOTA was not making money off parts and to create more cash flow they made their cars more complicated with as many different little $100-$500 fix it jobs as possible. Anyways the prius lights suck. They will all start to go out. The only hard ones to change are the headlights.

Kathleen Walker

1 year ago

Another Prius headlight victim - 2006 model with only 35,000 miles and the dealer in Leesburg, Virginia swears it "just happens sometimes - and yep $500-$600 to replace ONE headlight (mine on driver's side) but of course they recommend replacing them both. And yep, I have the extended warranty but totally out of luck.
Has anyone had any luck with contacting the US corporate office?

Caren Burns

1 year ago

2006 Prius.... Passenger light goes off. I turn the lights off then on and it goes for a while then does it again. I have been told, the bumper has to come off and itis $300 per light. I thought I was alone, now look at the lenght of all the emails hear. This is huge! Toyota needs to step up to the plate. The news media does not know about the headlights or they would be all over this. Otherwise, I have no complaints about my 2006 Prius. Just the blinking headlights... I don't have $300 or $500 to replace them and I am "not" going to pay that price. I'll throw myself on the floors of their showroom floors and have a fit before I pay that price. Who do we call? Can't we all write CNN or something?

JL

1 year ago

The same happens with my 06 Prius. I think it is the headlamp module (not the bulb itself) but so far I have not had any help from the dealer with it.

JCD

1 year ago

I just resolved my headlight issues (2006 Prius with HID) so figured I should share my experience.

The headlights started having problems about 6 months ago (mid 2009, about 35k miles) - faint flickering and occasionally going out. When one of the lights went out (both were affected) I could just flip the headlights off and back on to fix it. The problem got worse over time, up to the point where they would go out every couple of minutes.

After reading the Prius forums, I decided to buy a set of HID bulbs off of eBay, $50 for the pair and listed as "TOYOTA Prius 06 07 08 09 Xenon HID D4R head Light Bulbs". I swapped out the bulbs myself, which only took about 20 minutes, but it was definitely a very, very tight space in there.

The problem seemed to go away for about a month. Then the headlights started to go out again. Except this time, rather going out randomly, they went out whenever the car would change speeds (e.g. going over a speedbump, turning, braking). I tried reinstalling the bulbs but it didn't fix the problem.

Last week I finally called up the local Toyota dealer (SF Bay Area, South Bay) and they were aware of the problem with the 2006 Prius HID bulbs. I brought the car in, paid about $120 for the inspection, and they
replaced the bulbs under warranty. Luckily I had saved the old bulbs. It would have otherwise been $150/bulb + labor.

So far it seems like the problem is gone. I was fairly convinced that it was an ECU problem after installing the aftermarket bulbs, but now it seems like installing new factory bulbs fixed the problem.

Cheryl Pescinski

1 year ago

Aaron, my 2006 needs both lights fixed. it has been about one year ago that you replaced your 2006 headlights for 37.99 plus tax. are your headlights still working? and where did you find them for 37.99? thank you for your time. sincerely, Cheryll Pescinski

Liz Pike

1 year ago

I have the same problem with my 2005 prius driver's side headlight. I appreciate the comments above. Please add me to the list for complaints. My dealer quoted me a price of over $700.00 for the one side lamp and computer module. This is rediculous!!! I am going to nurse mine for as long as possible.

Marolyn Matthys

1 year ago

same problem with my 2006 prius passenger's side headlight...sigh

Greg

1 year ago

Which Toyota dealer in SF Bay area. My right head light has this problem. Quote to fix is $500. I also have a 2006 Prius

The only relief I got was a letter from Toyota relating that they would only charge me $150 for the bulb dropping quote to $350. Outrageous for changing a light bulb!

Anonymous

1 year ago

You people are all scaring me! We have been seriously considering a Prius and now I'm not sure if we should! Would appreciate any pros OR cons. thanks

Andy

1 year ago

I just replaced the drivers side headlamp on my 2006 Prius with a replacement bulb from the automotive isle in walmart. It works fine. $20.00 and an hour of labor (my own) was all it took. So far so good. If you want info on how to do it, send me an email topham7403@aol.com

SAK

1 year ago

Had a headlight changed on my 2006 Prius a couple of months ago. Almost fainted when I heard how much. Something has to be done.

BILL

1 year ago

ANOTHER PRIUS HEADLIGHT VICTIM ...absolutely no help from dealer... wants to sell me a $300 bulb ... it would probably fix it for a while... then all over again. Toyota needs to step up to the plate and issue a recall and fix. This is nonsense...

R Grater

1 year ago

2007 Prius, at about 23k miles, passenager side light went out. At 47K miles, the driver side light went out. I believe these light bulbs were faulty from the start. Too many people (1000's) are having this problem. The NHTSA investigated this and dropped the investigation. See web for details. There are class action suits in progress to get people reembursed for their expenses. Toyota sent out letter say they have dropped the price of the bulb to $150 and if you paid more let them know and they will refund you the difference. I think the class action suits will get some positive results.

Angry Prius Owner

1 year ago

My 2004 Prius just started having issues with the headlights about 6 months ago. I had just taken it in for a major service, and I had no idea about this problem until I got pulled over.

At first, the Driver's Side headlight would just go out, no flicker, no fade. A quick flip of the light switch seemed to remedy the problem- it would come back on as bright as ever. Then, after a few weeks, when I would flip the switch to fix the Driver's side light, the Passenger's side would inexplicibly go out. A few more flicks of the switch and both would come back on perfectly fine.

I decided that I would have the dealership look at it when I took it in for the recall 2-3 days ago. I took it to the San Francisco dealership on Geary where they have obviously (from the above reports) seen this before, yet they still tried to tell me that the bulbs were 'burnt out'. On top of it all the dealer was very condescending and rude, and I doubt he even looked tested the lights.

They told me that it would be $250 for each bulb and minimum $155 service fee. I can't afford this- I just got laid off last month. Also, from the other reports, it is VERY CLEAR that replacing the bulbs will not fix this situation.

Last night I had to drive from San Francisco to LA to visit my family. BOTH headlights went out numerous times, while I was driving alone and in the middle of nowhere on the freeway. The only reason I didn't crash was because there was a full moon out and luckily I could see the road. I had to repeatedly flip the switch to get the headlights to come back on. (As always, they are very bright and in otherwise great condition.) I eventually pulled over to wait until the morning so that I could continue driving.

It is definately NOT the bulbs. I don't know what it is, but is not the bulbs. I'm frustrated, worried, and don't know what to do.

Allen

1 year ago

We had the headlight problem. They would dim then wink out. Turning them off then on again they would come back on, at least for a while. Took it to the dealer. They wanted $800 dollars to replace the two. Told them no thanks. I went to autozone and bought 2 HID headlights(that's what my prius has) $100 a piece. Bought a $10 shop manual for the Prius. Replaced the two in about an hour and a half and they seem to work fine.

My thoughts.

1) Toyota doesn't have a very good design. Duh.
2) The dealship and from the comments here it sounds like many dealerships are taking us for a ride. If I had done this repair once before and if I had the tools and lift all the deaerlship shops have, I could have done this job in 30 minutes. What they're trying to charge is downright criminal. All this BS about the dealers feeling our pain is just that. BS. I'm annoyed at Toyota, I'm mad at the dealer.

Billy G

1 year ago

My wife and I both have 2006 Priuses and over the last 18 months five headlights have gone out. Cost would have been $500 each time but complaining to Toyota Corporate got them to cover #3 and #4 under warranty, pay for #2, and reimburse for #1. We are still arguing over failure #5 and so far Toyota is not owning up to their responsibility.

T W Shirley

1 year ago

In the past, I HAVE PURCHASED "AMERICAN" and have had FAR more trouble with them than I have ever had with my Toyota! My Tacoma has just passed the 200,000 Mile mark and HAS NEVER BEEN IN THE SHOP FOR ANYTHING!!! Now, show me an "American" made car that can make the same claim! Furthermore, I work near a large GM Assembly Plant and I can tell you for a FACT that a large portion of the parts in a so-called "Amercian Made" car come from Mexico!!! So much for your "home pride" ideas!!

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Senior Member

1 year ago

It's a sad fact of life for our country, that the most "American" cars on the road are Volkswagon and Honda. The 'big three" have outsourced the majority of their production overseas.

cebd

1 year ago

I have a 2005 Prius with headlight issues. I called a local dealer and they told me there is a "TSB" (Technical Safety Bulletin) issued by Toyota about the headlight problem. I asked if replacing the old HID lights with regular lights would fix the problem. They said it would. We'll see....

fegeg

1 year ago

Hi,
Here is the story.
I needed to change a bulb in my new 2008 Prius. I have HID bulbs.
I went to Toyota dealer...
Bulb - $170. Labor - ~$350 plus tax
Why so expensive, I asked. The technician replied, we need to remove the whole front bumper cover and all the plastic covers, then remove the head light and only then we will be able to change the bulb. It's 3 hours labor, he said.
Total of $520 to change the bulb.

This sounded "rip-off" to me and I went to Internet.

First of all, I found on ebay a pair of exact same bulbs (compared by Toyota part number) for $72 + $5 shipping (for 2 bulbs). $77 total. (if you have regular non HID lights, it will cost you probably $20-30). It's better to have a pair, cause they might have a difference in intensity and color with the older one.

Now came the labor part. I checked on youtube and found some videos how to remove the bumper cover and to change the bulb..... Not too complicated and about an 1hr of work.
However, accidentally, I saw a video of lady changing the bulb in 3 minutes, without removing the bumper cover. There were some comments about "small women hands" and that man can't do it...

I've decided to give it a shot.

I did it on the passenger side. They were right, it is not very convenient to get there with my hands. I've removed some piece of plastic that directs the air to the windshield fluid tank(just 1 clip). I've removed the tank itself (this part took me the most time, until I realized what tool I needed to squeeze the plastic clip - long nose pliers), 1 nut and 1 clip.
Removed the back head light cover (just 30 degrees turn of the round cup), removed the power cable of the bulb (slight turn as well).
Then I used a check-up mirror ($7.99 in Autozone). to see the clips that fix the bulb opened them and changed the bulb! Voilà!
IMPORTANT! You MUST to wear gloves (I used medical check up gloves) when you touch the bulb.

Tools: wrench(I used metric #10, it worked for me), long nose pliers, gloves, small screwdriver to open the clips and check up mirror.
Expenses : mirror - $7.99, bulbs $77. I have the rest of the tools.
Labor 1/2 hour (I am sure next time it will take me no more then 15 min)

Savings - ~$450!!!

P.S. if you need to change the bulb on the driver side, just remove the fuse box cover or the fuse box itself if you have really big hands.

Hope it will help you some day....

Anonymous

1 year ago

Another victim. Same issue on 2006 Prius with 70K. Does anyone have info on class action lawsuit? Reply to hzibel@comcast.net

tonywprius

1 year ago

I'm late on this chain so forgive me if I'm repeating some things.

Yes, it's clear the dealerships and Toyota will make their excessive profits. There is a better way.

1. Buy the bulb on the internet and change it yourself. Enough people have done it including me and my friend. First bulb replacement is a learning experience and will take you about 45minutes. Second bulb will take 10mins. Here's one place to buy the bulbs -- http://www.carhidkits.com/account/login.html
There are other sites as people have mentioned on this blog board.

2. As for the comments about outsourcing and why Toyota and other car companies use certain suppliers for the car components, the inside fact is that they would rather used the best vendor, BUT there are two forces at work. First, they have pressure as public companies to reduce cost. Part of that blame is on all of us consumers. Second and most revealing is that non-US companies like Toyota would rather not buy from US suppliers (like Delco), but they have to due to politics and all that buy American stuff. Their data consistently show that American suppliers have the worst quality. Fact is there are fewer and fewer American suppliers (due to lots of reasons including US regulations and other constricting policies) thus Toyota has to buy from whoever is left....which aren't much.

The current rash of "recalls" is a result of the Toyota situation. Car companies want to be safe and so they're reporting every issue. Most of those issues are due to what I described above. Expect this to be the on-going norm. There are no exceptions so EVERY car company has issues.

Kent Carter

1 year ago

Same story, different day. My 2006 Prius at 47,000 miles went to the dealership today. $150 for each headlamp plus $135 for labor. After dickering and showing the growing complaints with this issue, they are doing the entire fix for $100. Guess the upcoming steering column fiasco was an incentive.

Bird Dog

1 year ago

Jeez, you hybrid drivers are so cheap! You save hundreds on gas, and experience minimal repair costs (other than the not-stopping thing), and whine about a light bulb. High tech=high cost.

Tabitha

1 year ago

SAVE YOUR SELF HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS! I'm not joking! Our 2005, passenger side headlight went out over 2 years ago and we refused to pay the high price ($380 just for the bulb) of having it fixed. Long story short, we had to buckle down and get it fixed (never got a ticket though!). I found this AMAZING website www.partsgeek.com and got the bulb for $53.00! No kidding! Thankfully my husband is handy and was able to install it (with some difficulty, but with the help of the owners manual and a small mirror). If you aren't handy, then buy the bulb anyway and take it to your mechanic to have it installed. It'll be WAY cheaper than going to the dealer where they're going to suck you dry for a gosh darn light bulb.

james wilson

1 year ago

Moron.
American cars are crap, built by over-paid union workers who think the world owes them something, engineered and marketed by con artist.
Bring back quality to US production & engineering and inherently sales will return.

Edna Cureton

1 year ago

Wow! I just went through the Prius headlight issue! I have a 2007 Toyota Prius and the right side lamp started going in and out and then both of them started behaving the same. Considering that one cannot drive with head lights going in and out I went to Toyota 2 days ago and I was told I was out of luck as my warranty just expired a month ago (3 years or 36000 miles). The guy told me the last time he checked the HID I needed costed about $300 a piece, and it will take at least 2 hours to remove the entire front of the car to replace it. So I was looking to spend $600 on the lamps plus labor and seating at the dealer for 2-3 hours. I was perplexed! I really like my one and only car, but I was very sad that it was that expensive and difficult to change the bulbs! Plus the entire time I was thinking was the life expectancy of the bulb timed? :)) - warranty expired last month and I have a $600 and plus expense this month?? Sad!
Luckily my big brother is a Toyota mechanic and specialized in hybrid cars. I gave him a call with my VIN he ordered the HID for much cheaper he said the total was less than $300 and in about 1:30 it was done. HE DID NOT REMOVE THE FRONT OF THE PRIUS!! He only removed the screws that are on top of a plastic cover and removed a black piece of plastic next to the windshield washer liquid recipient. I did see that if an inexperienced person was doing it the front had to come out as I noticed that it was difficult to try to put the bulb back in just by sticking the hands inside. I guess if the mechanic really knows what he is doing he can do it without having to remove the entire front. Realistically i only drove my prius for 2 years as i was out of the country for about 15 months, however my head lights are always on! I thought that it might have played a part in the equation so I will no longer have my lights on during day time. How long are the lamps supposed to last? Good luck.

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