'Dust to Dust' Automotive Energy Report
My wife and I like to consider ourselves environmentally 'conscious'. We recycle and compost whenever possible, use energy-saving fluorescent bulbs, buy energy-saving appliances, subsidize our greenhouse gas emissions through a clean-air program, etc.. Reduce. Reuse. Recycle.
The next step in our attempt to do our part to help the environment, was to buy a hybrid vehicle. We spent months researching the environmental impact of specific models, fuel economy and safety ratings, and came to a decision - we were going to buy an '07 Camry Hybrid. Until recently.
While checking reviews and doing other research, I came across a study completed by CNW Research (Marketing/Research Firm) out of Oregon. The study involved collecting data pertaining to the energy cost per vehicle, from production to disposal. The report is called the "'Dust to Dust' Automotive Energy Report", and the results are translated into 'dollars per lifetime mile' for all new vehicles sold in the US in 2006. Essentially, this report confirms the amount of energy consumed over the lifetime of a vehicle (to produce, distribute, drive, dispose of, etc.) and therefore the environmental impact.
We were shocked to see that hybrids did not fare well in this report. Here are a few examples (showing energy cost per lifetime mile):
Maybach - $11.582 - *HIGHEST*
Honda Accord Hybrid - $3.295
Toyota Prius - $3.239
Honda Civic Hybrid - $3.238
Ford Expedition - $3.058
Hummer H2 - $3.027
Honda Civic (non-hybrid) - $2.420
INDUSTRY STRAIGHT AVERAGE - $2.281
Honda Accord (non-hybrid) - $2.180
Toyota Camry (non-hybrid) - $1.954
Toyota Tacoma - $1.147
Jeep Liberty - $1.099
Scion xB - $0.478 - *LOWEST*
As you can see, the non-hybrid vehicles scored much better than their hybrid counterparts. It sort of makes sense when you take into account energy usage during production and distribution, fuel economy (small factor, so it seems), energy required to dismantle and dispose of the vehicle, etc., and consider that driving a hybrid may reduce greenhouse gases in the area you drive it, but essentially export pollution to other areas (ie. where the vehicle is built, shipped or disposed of).
Why would we buy a Camry Hybrid, when it's non-hybrid counterpart appears to be much more environmentally 'friendly'?
Other than reading the report itself, we haven't read/heard much about it, and we are really interested in knowing what other people have to say.
Report: "'Dust to Dust' Automotive Energy Report"
Looking forward to getting some feedback on this topic!
Save energy, drive car longer
I have been thinking:confused: about this study (when I was standing at the pump, pouring dead dinosaurs into my 1991 Buick:mad: ) and it came to me that what it really says is that:
The best way (or at least a very good way) to save a lot of energy is to:
- put as many miles on your car before it is scrapped as you can
- buy American in order to reduce the transportation energy to ship the car from Japan or Korea to the US.
Its also saying that it believes that:
1. hybrid drivers are flakes who are expected to only drive their cars for a short time, then jump to the next new thing
2. hybrid drivers will waste energy by retentively fixing any minor scratches and dings
3. hybrids will only come from offshore, US auto manufacturers won't make them
4 hybrid drive trains aren't put into utility vehicles such as vans or trucks that can have a utility/industrial life, even after they are no longer desireable as a consumer vehicle (this is their justification for much longer vehicle life for trucks and vans).
Maybe there is something good to be learned from this effort after all, even if it was written with the intent to discredit hybrids.:)
Newer Article Citing Same Data
I am new to this forum and joined today b/c as a Prius owner I too was shocked by this artcile which cites data from the CNW Research report. Check out this link: http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/edito...asp?NewsID=188
How do you think they arrived at the fact that Prius owners only drive 100,000 or so miles for the life of the car? Did CNW base this on recommended Toyota Battery usage data?
Also I certainly don't think the majority of Hummer H2 drivers will own their cars for 300,000 miles. They are way too vain for that.
Any help getting answers would be greatly appreciated.