diesel yield vs gasoline yield
I did a little digging after reading your post. A federal doe site cites 7 gallons of diesel fuel per barrel and 20 gallons of gasoline per barrel. as to the tax, this varies from state to state, many tax both the same. My state of pa taxes diesel 8 cents a gallon higher than gas.
I hadnt been aware of that prior to your post.
I still maintain though that a large scale shift to diesel will overtax the supply chain and drive prices higher, much higher. for most drivers it will mostly be about the cost, not the environment and not the fact that we are financing terrorism
It should not be "diesel vs hybrid". the federal program from the nineties had a target of 80 mpg and were well on the way to meeting it combining diesel and hybrid technology and other improvements developed jointly by the big three. Unfortunately Bush dismantled this early on, believing that more drilling was the answer. Detroit threw away their early lead in developing the car of the future and ceded their future to the Japanese.
This Article Doesn't mention anything regarding ULSD
The original article fails to mention EPA's new standards for Ultra Low Sulphur Diesel. My impression was that this new diesel fuel standard will allow for diesel vehicles to be cleaner burning, eliminating all of the cons associated with Diesel vehicle's dirty reputation, which would make them more efficient then gas and cleaner. Does anyone have a feel for how ULSD will effect diesel vehicles in the US? I would think diesels would again be back in the limelight as they are in Europe. Now, couple that with the potential of homegrown biodiesel and we have a revolution on our hands...thoughts??
Another missed point diesel vs diesel
Consider how much more energy is required to manufacture a hybrid vs diesel. My understanding is it is considerable. #2 how long will the batteries last and the gas engine last vs the diesel. Diesels can go 300-500,000 miles. Where's the gasser that will last that long? Replacing a car every 200,000 vs 400,00? Well you do the energy math.
Why buy a Hybrid when you have diesel?
Diesel vs. Hybrid . . . what is the right choice? Hybrids still use gas, a fossil fuel! Also, I guess it all depends on where you live too. If you live in a climate such as California, hybrids may be OK . . . but they still use gas! I live in western Canada and it can get bloody cold here. Temperatures can range from +30 and hotter in the summer to -30 and colder in the winter (thatís just air temp if itís windy you have to factor in the wind chill which makes it even colder) and thatís Celsius not Fahrenheit.
But is a hybrid vehicle good in the climate I live in? My opinion is, no it isnít! Winters here can be brutally cold or warm and mild. Freezing temps are hard on batteries, ask anyone who has had to wait for hours to get a boost in -30 Celsius weather with a wind chill factored in to bring it to -40 C. Batteries take a beating here! When I was shopping for a new vehicle and asked about replacing the battery in a hybrid, I was quoted $3000 to replacement it and that this would have to be done every 3 - 4 years . . . in the climate we live in. This was someone who was trying to get me to buy a new hybrid truck that was coming onto the market! True or not that is a big expense on top of the already high price of vehicles these days. If we are talking about environmental impact, what is a battery? It has acid and lead (unless they have come up with an environmentally friendly combination) both are toxic and not good for the environment and if it ever blows up . . . have you seen what a car battery does when it explodes? Thatís why they have warnings on them. What process do they use to recycle a battery? Whatís done with the acid, the lead and battery casing? Do they get cleaned and reused or is the acid just dumped and are the lead plates recycled? Do they have to clean the lead plates before reusing them and if so what do they use, another toxic chemical? Do they melt the lead down, using an already depleting energy resource. These are questions that we should all ask before we think hybrids are environmentally friendly . . . Hybrids have big batteries!!!
I downsized from a SUV (I didnít need that size of vehicle any longer) to a smaller vehicle. The choice I had to make was do I go gas, hybrid or diesel. Hybrids use less gas than other gas vehicles, maybe. But less than a diesel? The only diesel car available here was from one auto maker (originally European) or a Heavy Duty 3/4 ton truck that I could move a building with or the Jeep.
Why did I go diesel and not hybrid? Simple really, the ability to use bio-diesel instead of dino-diesel. Bio-diesel is produced from vegetable or soya oil, not fossil fuels. Keeps farms in business and the people who would rather work on a farm than in a stuffy office employed! You can even recycled and use deep fryer oil from fast food places and restaurants. Thereís also the fuel economy. I fill up every 2 weeks now instead of 2 times a week. A similar hybrid vehicle, to my vehicle, is EPA rated at 4.7/100 km city and highway. My diesel vehicle was rated at 6.5/100 km city and 4.6/100 km highway. I admit the hybrid is better in the city but the diesel is better on the highway and I do a lot of highway driving. Diesel is more environmental in the long run, with lower emissions than a gas engine and with bio diesel even lower (did I mention that there is a slight improvement in fuel economy and performance with bio-diesel mixed in? Also with the diesel engine (recommended maintenance by the auto maker) my oil changes are every 8000 km instead of every 5-6000 km with a gas engine. Further lessening the impact on the environment.
I have to say that I am disappointed with the lack of diesel powered vehicles in North America and find it appalling! The oil companies have the consumer by the, you know what, and all you can get are gas sucking engines except for the heavy duty trucks and few smaller vehicles. If I wanted to get a small truck, a crossover SUV or a compact car, no matter who the auto maker is, I would have to go to Europe, order it there and have it shipped back to Canada. Same auto makers, different market!!! So why are we as consumers not screaming about this? Itís time our governments did something.
Both bio-diesel and hybrid technology are still fairly new but which is really more environmental friendly? I think that maybe if they had a hybrid that ran on bio-diesel then we are getting somewhere.
bio-diesel hybrid... music
bio-diesel hybrid... music to my ears. your a genuis and i think you found the solution