So bush has signed a $25B
So bush has signed a $25B "Loan" to the auto industry, to help them convert to building more energy efficient vehicles. Uhhh- what have they been doing for the last 40 years since the last energy crisis?
I'd be willing to wage this loan will never be repaid...
You are right.Hydrogen fuel
You are right.Hydrogen fuel cells are the only hope we have for the near future.I think more research has to be done to improve its efficiency.
I'd love to believe you
I'd love to believe you but you've got to give us some reason to believe that what you've got works. I don't understand how it improves anything so you need to give us something substantial.
Can't you get a neutral lab to certify you. Perhaps if you don't have enough cash to pay a lab, you could start with just some local community college with an auto repair professor that might verify gas mileage improvement.
I could also point you to other neutral labs that might certify your stuff as well if you like.
Hi ex-EV1 driver - we are
Hi ex-EV1 driver - we are actually going to be doing that soon. Right now our main focus has been R&D to refine and produce the most efficient generators with a small enough footprint to fit any car.
Currently our testing has been confined to actual road tests and mileage checks, as well as bench top production model measurements using hhometers and lab quality air/gas flow meters.
Nothing really matters to me unless it's practical. The bottom line is- will it work and can it save people money. I've seen various iterations with guys touting enormous LPM (liters per minute), but the generators are so huge they have to strap it to their bumper or put it in their trunk. Others are dismal under performers (like the glass mason jars you see around) and are useless for long term.
Once we have our final testing done and have finished modifying our commercial grade model, then we will do a full lab test by an independent company, and various smog/emissions testing as well. I'll keep you posted on that...
Our goal is to shrink it down to the smallest most efficient model available, and we're very close. We have investors wanting to sponsor us and have some pretty big news coming up, which I cannot talk about yet.
Regarding how it works... it's not some "free energy" model like many are shouting, not by a long shot. But given that the IC engine is only about 20% or less efficient (actually watched a report the other day that only 6% of the energy in gas actual makes it to the wheels) it doesn't take much to increase mileage.
Hydrogen burns at 40,000 FPS, gasoline only 4,000 FPS (feet per second). SO when you inject a small amount of hydrogen and oxygen into the air/fuel mix, the hydrogen burns fast and with an incredible force. That results in less gas needed.
The lower heat results because hydrogen burns so fast that heat has less time to transfer to the cylinder walls. I've seen as much as 10 degree drop, but more usually about 5.
It burns so much extra particulate and unburned fuel that you can put a white rag on the exhaust and do a before and after test. Before- black ring, after - clean rag, no ring. We'll be filming one of these tests soon as well.
There's a whole lot more that can be said, but I'll save that for another post.
I appreciate the skepticism - I was one myself until I saw it actually work.
No problem, glad to discuss
No problem, glad to discuss it.
regarding sales page- you went to wrong page for kits. The "high powered" sales pitch is our book that was originally written to help people understand, build and install these in their car using readily available parts. The vast majority of the sales fee is to cover commissions to the affiliates who do a great job of getting it out there. The profits help to pay for further research and testing, refining of product.
Kits are at hhokitsdirect.com (can't put links anymore ala request from hc.com) and are aimed at those that understand the technology and just want to install. The site will be refined as time permits, but right now, we're too busy building and selling with requests coming from around the world. I even have a high end custom auto manufacturer wanting to develop a product line specifically for their 100K+ cars.
So, we are not approaching this as some flash in the pants journey. Results will top theory anytime.
I'm well aware of the hydrogen bond and efficiencies. I'm also keenly aware of the inefficiencies of current IC motors. By itself, HHO gas will not run an IC engine smoothly without a huge production rate (about 10 LPM for a small 5 horsepower 4 stroke) which takes about 4000 watts of input. Certainly not self-running, but highly efficient.
However, when mixed with gas or diesel in the air/fuel mix, it is extremely efficient, a very small amount can make the gas burn much cleaner, more thoroughly than current combustion cycles without it.
I'm glad to discuss this and continue the conversation - I don't mind skepticism, name calling/sanity checks are not necessary. Let's reason together.
I agree that independent testing is most definitely where the industry will gain credibility, which is why I said we are planning to do just that. We are developing an aggressive business plan and have investors ready to put hard cash into this venture. Our goal is to legitimize a fledgling industry that has incredible potential. Just because there are some who are wackos out there does not discount that the technology has incredible possibilities.
Regarding HHOmeter, it's a new term to describe a measurement device designed to measure density and Liters Per Minute production rates of HHO generators. It's low tech and inexpensive to make, reminiscent of the early days of magnetism and electricity, where devices needed to be made to give an indication of power, resistance, etc.
"If it is a real, commercially produced instrument, please tell me where I can get one. If it is a homebrewed machine, I'd like to hear how it works." Why? are you going to try and actually build one of these? :)
That's all for now,