we have too many "victims"
we have too many "victims" these days and not enough folks who don't realize that it's their responsibility, not the manufacturer's, to check their fluid levels and other safety/reliability-related things.
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My wife and I had a similar
My wife and I had a similar experience yesterday with our 2007 Camry Hybrid (57K miles). We were in stop and go traffic. She was driving. We came to a stop light. When the car dropped below 5 mph, the point where regenerative braking transitions to normal brakes, it didn't happen - we lost all braking. She had enough distance between us and the car in front of us to make a hard swerve into the right turning lane to avoid rear ending the car. She stood on the peddle to bring the car to a stop. I don't know that standing on the brakes actually helped. I'm guessing that the braking system is fly-by-wire and the car had some small braking capacity that eventually stopped us further down the road.
It was a bright sunny day, no water on the road, and no forewarning. The car has been well maintained by the dealership. The car was towed to the dealership where they reported that they couldn't find any problems with the braking system. Knowing that the car records failure codes, I asked what codes were reported. The tech said there were no error codes recorded. As far as the computer was concerned, there was no failure.
When driving the car myself, I have noted from time to time, odd transition from regenerative braking to normal brakes. I've chalked it up to different driving conditions and am unsure if there is any relationship.
I told the dealership that the next time it happens, they'll be replacing the computer and entire braking system under warranty (it is still under extended warranty until the end of this year).
Stopping device on moving
Stopping device on moving vehicles: "brake" or "brakes" ... :))
In follow up to my previous
In follow up to my previous comment. The dealership returned the vehicle to us claiming to have updated the computer. Unfortunately, that didn't help. The brakes failed again in traffic again nearly resulting in us rear ending the car in front of us. Again, my wife swerved off the road to the shoulder to bring the car to a stop. Fortunately, she keeps good distance and is able to react. The symptoms were:
Big red BRAKES lit up
ABS light came on
Check VSC System light came on
Anti Skid light came on
Triangle with (!) came on
Orange Circle with (!) came on
Conditions: Dry level road, no bumps or debris on the road, stop and go city traffic, gentile pressure on the brake peddle (until it is realized there's no brakes then very heavy pressure).
Placing hard pressure on the peddle will bring the vehicle to a slow stop but unfortunately, by the time you realize the brakes have failed, the reaction time to stand on the peddle hard and the greatly lengthened stopping distance can result in a collision. The vehicle was returned to the dealer and has been there three weeks now. We are refusing to accept the vehicle back until they find the problem and fix it. I've contacted Toyota HQ USA and requested assistance in the matter.