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'01 Prius Steering Column noise

Created August 8, 2005, at 7:13 pm by Anonymous

I'm at 62K and have noticed a progressively loud rubbing noise while turning (right or left), especially once the car warms up. Initially, the dealer said it was the tires rubbing, although I have not changed the size of the tires upon their replacement. Next, the dealer says it is possibly the brake rotors which, despite having over 50% left on the pads, may need turning.
Anyone else having a similar problem?

Anonymous

6 years ago

Karen: I feel like I'm listening to Klick & Klack ... Have you investigated the level of your power steering fluid or had your p.s. pump checked? Sounds like a possibility ... Good Luck!

Anonymous

6 years ago

We have the same problem on our '03 Highlander. Dealer has yet to identify the problem. They put some lubricant on the steering column, which gets rid of the noise temporarily, but it returns within a few weeks.

Anonymous

6 years ago

Our steering wheel vibraties badly when doing turns -- our dealer told us that the entire steering mechanism would need to be replaced for $1800 (OUCH!)

Anonymous

6 years ago

Our 2002 Prius (first non-Ford vehicle we've owned) has developed a pulsing/shake in the steering wheel when the vehicle got to about 40K miles. This condition is most noticeable when driving straight and making slight corrections to stay in the lane. Moving the steering wheel an inch or so would suddenly produce a "pulse" - almost like the power steering assist was giving an unwanted boost. It has been getting progressively worse over the last several weeks. My wife said that the steering also felt very loose. We had the steering aligned about four months ago. At that time there was no identified looseness nor was this steering problem present.

My wife just got back from the dealership and they told her that Toyota already has a quality(?) program to remedy this condition in certain, but NOT all, Prius vehicles. I'm not sure what criteria Toyota used to determine who's Prius was going to get a free repair and who was going to get screwed paying such a huge repair bill - but the dealership said our car was not covered. They indicated that parts alone were going to run ~$1500! <:o

To their credit, the dealership was going to discuss with Toyota's service division(?) the possibility of covering our Prius even though it falls outside Toyota's suspect vehicle population. I'm trying to be optimistic that Toyota will do the right thing and stand behind their product, but my wife is devasted at the thought of spending that much money to fix a Toyota Prius with such modest time in service and mileage. (We had been reveling in her foresight to buy the Prius when it was still this quirky unknown vehicle and gas was still comparatively cheap!)

Toyota obviously has identified a quality issue with certain parts in, or the entire electronic power assist steering system (BTW - there's no hydraulic power steering pump on the Prius like more conventionally powered vehicles).

When manufacturers bracket a specific group of vehicles it's because they believe that there was a specific start and end date to the given problem -"bookends" in the vernacular of the trade. Many times that decision is based on incident rates. That can be an effective way to manage these kind of problems, but you have to account for the same thing happening on a smaller number of vehicles outside of the "suspect population" ... like our Prius and others would appear to be.

Toyota has already determined they have a steering problem with some of the Prius vehicles on the road and have committed funds to pay for most of the problem vehicles if/or when the condition develops. The right thing for Toyota to do for those early customers, who bought their Prius' before it became the popular thing to do and are not covered by the existing program, is provide a no cost repair for what Toyota must have decided are less frequent occurrences. Handle them on an "as-they-come" basis if Toyota thinks that is wise (they should have decided up front to cover all of these failures!), but keep these customers happy. It would be penny-wise-and-pound-foolish not to cover the minor additional costs on the Prius' that are less likely to experience the problem - but still experience the same failure.

Prius owners are as enthusiastic and loyal a customer group as any. It would be ridiculous for Toyota to generate anger in this customer base in order to save a comparatively few dollars. If any Prius owner ends up paying ~$1800 for a steering repair that occurs shortly after the standard 36K mile warranty period ends, but still at very modest mileages - and that same repair is covered on a similar Prius built in the same model year(!) - well that destroys every financial and reliability motive to own and drive their car. That would leave owner feeling betrayed and angry. How would Toyota ever expect these people to brag about either the Prius car or Toyota's famed quality again?

What kind of endorsement is, "Yeah, the technology is great ... but all the money I might have saved getting 50 miles per gallon I just spent because I had to pay $1800 to replace the new fangled steering system that failed at 40K miles ... oh, and Toyota fixed it for free on other Prius' but not mine!"

If Toyota treats their Prius customers like this then they do not deserve to be held in the high esteem that they obviously worked decades to achieve. I really hope Toyota does the right thing for their customers!

Anonymous

6 years ago

Toyota agreed to cover the costs for the parts to fix the steering problem in our 2002 Prius. What a relief! We will still have to pay for the labor - $250.

Anonymous

5 years ago

Hi, Im in Australia and have a prius also that has this steering shaking problem, Toyota Australia just don't want to know about it and act like it's not their problem, can anyone tell me what the actual fault is. Is it in the steering colum or engine bay or what. Any help would be great.

Anonymous

5 years ago

My name is Bruce and my early 2004 Prius 11 is a real handful to drive at freeway speeds. It wandersand needs constant vigilance to maintain lane position. Tunnels are a white knuckle experience.
Toyota denies the problem.
Have tried a variety of tyre pressures to no avail.
I have owned many cars in my 45 years of driving, none that handle as badly nor feels so unsafe.
Any thoughts?
PS Also an Australian!

Anonymous

5 years ago

RECALL... there is a steering system recall on Toyota vehicles.. including the Prius.

Check with your local dealer.

Anonymous

5 years ago

The recall appears to cover Prius NHW20 model vehicles made in Japan between July 2003 and November 2005.

My 2002 Prius with 73,000 km (About 43,000 miles) is not covered the recall nor Manufacturer warranty. The replacement part in Canada is
$4700 and I have decided to proceed with
the repair.

I will not be keeping my Prius

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4 years ago

My 2001 Prius has developed steering noise that began at about 95000 miles
and has increased and gotten worse at about 105000 miles. Bought car new and have had it serviced in Boone, NC. They were told about it but were unable to fix. EHL

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Junior Member

4 years ago

Prius models. Some which are taken care of by Toyota, others are not. My belief it is the individual dealer that either works for you or against you. Try taking it to another dealer and see what they say!

Anonymous

3 years ago

I bought a new 2002 Prius which has approx. 22,000 miles now. A month ago I began to notice a strange noise (like dragging rubber soles on a rubber mat) when turning the steering wheel to the right (not to the left). This gets louder when the outside temperature gets warmer. I took the car to the dealer, and they could not find anything; they just "removed air bubbles and cleaned the brake linings." The next morning I heard the noise again, and I took the car in again the following day. The "advisor" told me that he was afraid that the steering column may have to be replaced at a cost of approx. $2,000 (for which I would have to pay since the car has been out of warranty since Nov 07). The replacement part has been ordered and will get in next week.
This steering column problem seems to have been experienced by other Prius owners as well, and I am quite upset about it. Toyota should cover the cost of the new part and just charge for the labor.

Anonymous

3 years ago

2003 Prius - 124000 miles - 1/29/2008

My prius started horrible shaking for a few bursts at a time only while turning.

Took it into dealer and they said it's the electric steering assist thing. Cost about 1400 to fix + another 600 in labor.

This car has been remarkably good up til now, so we'll probly pay it. Not much choice anyway. Hope this helps.

This is in the St. Charles Pappas Toyota in Missouri.

Anon

3 years ago

I was the previous commenter.

I meant to date the post 1/29/2009.

It's my steering that is shaking when turning. But only occasionally.

Anonymous

2 years ago

we were having the same problem -- we just bought a 2001 Prius with 75,000 miles. Noticed that same sensation when turning. we took it into the dealership in North Carolina where we bought the car and they couldn't find anything wrong. We're in IN for a vacation and took it to the dealer because the check engine light came on at the start of the trip. They're saying it's the power steering (some electronic part) and it will cost us $1900 to fix. Not sure we have any recourse but to pay?

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2 years ago

I just LOVE all these "anonymous" postings.

HEY "ANONYMOUS"... Are you a flunky for GM, or Ford???

Who's paying you to run around the net, trash talking the hybrids?

The same people who killed the electric car?

If you are a Prius owner, or interested in the Prius, have the #$% to put your name on your post!

Gary Schaut

gecar

2 years ago

I have a 2001 Prius, bought brand new. At 43k miles the steering rack was replaced because of loud knocking. At 68k miles the steering rack was replaced because of loud knocking. At 106k miles the steering rack is knocking again. Small town driving in Illinois as the 8 years and 106k miles would verify. One would expect a bad part, or lemon, from time to time. I would love to know if anybody has similar issues, or a non Toyota replacement part that would last

Wingman

2 years ago

Yep. Me too ! 2001 Prius. Great car EXCEPT it has a steering mind of its own. About ran me into the shoulder on Interstate 5 the first time. Finally figured out it is a electronic (computer) steering issue. They use a set of torque sensors to tell the electric power steering motor which way and how hard to assist the turning.
Only problem is if you're not turning... It wants to turn on its own. This was subject of a major recall in 2001.
Talking to Toyota Corporate Customer Service (Paul, yes I named you ) they fall back on the original 36,000 mile Warranty. Well, we're all far beyond that, No one here in L.A., yes the BIG city except the dealer, will work on this. All parts have to come from Toyota and they only ones who'll fix it are the dealers.
I think the expensive price acts as a deterent for older Prius owners to fix this. 40MPG doesn't balance the loss of life from such a problem. I'm writing to NHSTA. Anyone want to join me ?

Anonymous

2 years ago

Chatsworth, CA. My 2002 Prius has the same problem and has been making the noise when I make a right turn for about a year in a half. Currently the car has 90,000 miles on it. The Toyota Dealer claims that the problem is the rack and pinion. They also said it would cost $2,000. I have been driving it with the problem ever since. In rainy wheather the noise stops, if I jack the car up so the wheels hang and let it back down the noise stops for a day. Would like to know if your steering column replacement solves the problem.

ri Stewart

2 years ago

We have an 06 Prius. We bought it used with 7k miles. It just ran out of warranty in July.

We also bought it high when gas was spendy, so it's resale value dropped almost $8k in the last year.

The steering is doing the same issue as discussed on these posts at 32k miles.

Toyota has refused to pay for it. The dealer is so embarrassed, they offered to pick up half of it. It's a $1600 repair, $800 to me.

We told them as soon as they fix it, they can buy it. The $860 our cost on this accommodates 10,000 miles of driving at 25mpg How can that pencil?

I think it's time to start Tweeting this issue, as I will not own a Prius (or a toyota) for a LONG time!

Phil

2 years ago

I have a 01 Prius. At 15,000 miles, I had the rack replaced under an early recall. A few years later, I got a letter from Toyota mentioning a different problem with steering and claiming they would extend the warranty service.

I now have 68,000 miles on the car. It is mushy when turning left and does not return to center. They say I need a new rack etc. for $1300 + in parts and labor on top.

Any suggestions?

Holly

2 years ago

I have a 2002 Prius and have been having this same shaking motion in the steering column that occurs only at low speeds when turning right. It has been happening for over a year.

I've had the car since 2005. The car has 165,000 miles and was bought used with 90,000 miles. Other than this low-speed problem I really enjoy my car.

After talking with the dealer in Annapolis, MD I found out that the steering repair would cost $2,000. I don't have this money to spend and have to wait until this car is 10 years old before I buy a new used Prius. Which I plan to do unless another hybrid or electric car catches my imagination.

I am wondering if anyone has had an accident because of the intermittant shaking of the steering column? Has anyone had to "put their Prius down" as a result of the defect?

Thanks.

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2 years ago

This is a first generation Prius, if you have an uncontrolled flutter the sensors in the electric rack cannot find center this is fixed by replacing the rack and there is an updated ps ecu. If there is a clank in the steering when moving it slightly side to side you need to have the the universal joint checked on the steering column to see if it has play. These are all normal where items, have done it on both of my high mileage 1rst gen prius

mukuka

2 years ago

I imported a used first generation Prius to my country in africa without much research on its history. The vehicle has developped the same problems as highlighted by the previous writers. Next time I venture into buying, I will always make some research.

Sherri Heiberger

2 years ago

I have been having troubles with steering usually when I start it up. If the vehicle is cold, is happens a lot. The other day it began to shake suring the middle of the drive. That was scary. I had to pull over to the side of the highway, shut off the car and start it again. It was fine that time.

Yesterday, though, I had to jump my Prius because of cold weather. Then on the way home it started shaking. I couldn't turn it off because it had just been jumped. It shook for 15 straight minutes. My arms were jello when I got home.

Dan Mulera

2 years ago

2002 Pruis w/114k miles. Last year the steering wheel occasionally vibrated like a maniac upon low speed left turns and backing especially in cold weather. Summertime and it all but disappeared. This winter it returned with a vengeance and I got a $2,500 + $1,000 quote from the dealer with a diagnosis of "needs new Rack & Pinion (R&P) and ECU" (!). Not economical on this old car. I bought a re-manufactured R&P for $900 from Garo Steering in West Park FL and got a local shop to install it for $250. I thought I had it licked until the cold weather made it give a little shake just like a year ago. Warm weather - it disappears. Like Toyotech13 says above, I may need the ECU replaced or "updated". The cost of the ECU will dictate whether I endure the shakes, hoping they don't worsen, or spring for the ECU.

Joesph Hill

2 years ago

We have a fleet of 15 Toyota Prius 2008-2010. Took one out on the freeway one day at 60 MPH the handling was terrible. Wouldn't steer straight. Had to correct constantly. Would not buy one of these cars. We mostly drive on city streets. The car probably had less than 7500 miles on it at the time.

2002 prius owner

1 year ago

Yes, I want to join in writing to the NHSTA. We've owned our Prius for over a year. For last two months we have a steering wheel shudder. The price on the part (steering rack) just doubled and the cost is now over $3000 to repair. Toyota HQ told me the same thing they told you-they weren't the least bit sympathetic. My issue is that if this is a faulty part and not the result of normal wear and tear, I think Toyota is responsible. They told my maybe I "did something myself to cause the problem" and when I said there's lots of other Prius owners with the same problem they said maybe all these other people have done something to cause it too! I asked if this was a safety risk and they would not tell me other than to say "the steering could go out on any car". I love my car, but this is really bad customer service and Toyota not taking responsibility for a bad part. (they know it's bad, they had an extended warranty on it!)
We are currently investigating trying to turn the car into manual steering because we can't afford to fix it.

Anonymous

1 year ago

We have a 2002 Prius and our steering block was replaced for free. The steering wheel would shake violently when we first started driving. At first the service representative said he never heard of this. When it happened again I left the car at the dealer and they replaced everything for free. Obviously there is a known problem.

gary

1 year ago

we have an 08 prius with 4k miles. Occaisionally we get a high pitched noise when turning. The dealer wants to help but it never occurs when we take it in. I heard it out side of the car today and it is louder than I thought.

Nancy

1 year ago

I have a 2002 Prius. The steering wheel shakes. This is a concern.
I was told by my local dealer that it would cost $2,800.00 for the new parts and labor. OUCH!
I may see if I can get a used part...any other suggestions out there?
I live in Olympia ,Wa.

Nick Lords

1 year ago

About the rubbing noise. It didn't happen to me in my Prius, but it did happen in a Mazda we also have. Unfortunately I live in CZ and my Czech is not good enough to understand what the mechanic said it was (some rubber part in the suspension, not in the steering macanism).

Anyway, it was quite cheap and quick to replace.

MRmz

1 year ago

I own a 2002 Prius, has 93,000 miles on it, I was recently (May 2010) driving at around 65 mph on a freeway and the car suddenly lost the power steering assistance and the speed dropped to around 20~23 mph, multiple warning signals came on the screen: a battery symbol, PS, and the car shape with a ! in the middle. Took the car to the service center in San Diego, got a quote of 3571 dlls parts and labor. Reviewing the maintenance records on the car I found that I took the car to the dealer for the same symptoms once in 2004 and three times in 2008 and every time they cleaned a sensor or could not replicate the problem. I also found that Toyota had issued two TSBs to the NHTSA in 2004 (Service Bulletins #04010 and 0403) where they acknowledged the problem. I called the Customer Experience Center at Toyota and they denied any type of assistance to cover the cost of the repair due to the high mileage on the car, they did call the service center in San Diego to see if they would be willing to help but they also denied any type of assistance.
Is there any recourse other than paying the bill given the fact that the problem was present since 2006 and Toyota didn't diagnose the problem correctly?
Maybe going to arbitration with the BBB or filing a claim with the NHTSA?

Dan Mulera

1 year ago

I bought a re-manufactured R&P for $900 from Garo Steering in West Park FL and got a local shop to install it for $250. It's been fine for 6 months. Cold weather will be the true test.

Beth

1 year ago

I have a 2002 Prius as well. My steering started shaking and vibrating while turning and backing up at slow speeds when it got really cold this last December '09. I took it to the Toyota dealership I bought it from, and they ran a diagnostic on it for $100. They told me it was the rack and pinion and would cost around $2000. I decided to take it to a local very reliable automotive repair shop for $1700. They replaced the rack and pinion, and the steering seemed to be fixed for the past 7 months, but it has started doing the same shaking within the past few weeks, when the temperature has been at its hottest here in Texas. It's like extreme weather conditions have a say in whether my steering wants to work properly, but maybe it's not really a factor. Will be taking my car to the shop as soon as I can do without it for a little while. We'll see what they say this time.

Judge

45 weeks ago

Steering shakes violently when backing out of driveway with slight turn to right. The problem is intermittent and has occurred maybe half dozen times in the past year or so. It is always a surprise but this morning it was frightening. Feels very much like an old VW with bad steering damper but does not require a bump in the road to initiate. Temperature is always between 60-80degF. Car is 2003 Prius which otherwise is great a car

Jon

45 weeks ago

2002 prius. Steering shakes when turning - especially when first turning on in the morning.

I am concerned about the safety of the car. If there isn't a recall on this system, there should be. Or class action suit. I was quoted $3500 by the dealership. No way.

mattp- New Zealand

8 weeks ago

Had this 2002 PRIUS for two months now, sadly i didn't do some research first before buying this kind of car. same steering problem as other prius owners, shaking violently when turning and didn't know this is a serious problem until i found out today on this web page. i took my car to one of the Toyota dealer in NZ but they said that there was nothing wrong with the car. But my wife is scared to drive the car again now.

I heard on the news on radio and tv not long ago about the list of services/product most trusted by customers and Toyota was in Top 5 of the list topping all car maker in the world i think. Now i am questioning that survey.
Come on Toyota where is the Technology, do we have to still " BELIEVE " as the word written on your forehead.
At least we have so many options on the market now aayyy

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