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	<title>Comments on: First Full Test Shows Tesla Model S Gets 238 Miles Range</title>
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		<title>By: Samuel H.</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/first-full-test-shows-tesla-model-s-gets-238-miles-range-50663/#comment-40161</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 00:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Motortrend achieved a 288 miles on a trip from L.A. to Las Vegas, and Edmunds achieved 267 miles; much closer to the EPA rating. Also, it was a fully loaded car with weight-adding, range-reducing options such as a panoramic glass roof, performance tires, and rear child seats. This cynic who made that prediction has been posting anti-EV rhetoric for years.&lt;br /&gt;
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The new EPA five-cycle tests are very accurate and Edmunds has proven that to be so. As a future Model S owner, I&#039;m going to put low resistance tires on my car, clear plastic covers on the rims, and remove the child seats when I travel, which won&#039;t be that often. Otherwise, I&#039;d put 20in performance tires on it. They are lighter than the 21in ones, wider, and look less &quot;blingy&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Motortrend achieved a 288 miles on a trip from L.A. to Las Vegas, and Edmunds achieved 267 miles; much closer to the EPA rating. Also, it was a fully loaded car with weight-adding, range-reducing options such as a panoramic glass roof, performance tires, and rear child seats. This cynic who made that prediction has been posting anti-EV rhetoric for years.</p>
<p>The new EPA five-cycle tests are very accurate and Edmunds has proven that to be so. As a future Model S owner, I&#8217;m going to put low resistance tires on my car, clear plastic covers on the rims, and remove the child seats when I travel, which won&#8217;t be that often. Otherwise, I&#8217;d put 20in performance tires on it. They are lighter than the 21in ones, wider, and look less &#8220;blingy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel H.</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/first-full-test-shows-tesla-model-s-gets-238-miles-range-50663/#comment-40160</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 00:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Motortrend achieved a 288 miles on a trip from L.A. to Las Vegas, and Edmunds achieved 267 miles; much closer to the EPA rating. Also, it was a fully loaded car with weight-adding, range-reducing options such as a panoramic glass roof, performance tires, and rear child seats. This cynic who made that prediction has been posting anti-EV rhetoric for years.&lt;br /&gt;
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The new EPA five-cycle tests are very accurate and Edmunds has proven that to be so. As a future Model S owner, I&#039;m going to put low resistance tires on my car, clear plastic covers on the rims, and remove the child seats when I travel, which won&#039;t be that often. Otherwise, I&#039;d put 20in performance tires on it. They are lighter than the 21in ones, wider, and look less &quot;blingy&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Motortrend achieved a 288 miles on a trip from L.A. to Las Vegas, and Edmunds achieved 267 miles; much closer to the EPA rating. Also, it was a fully loaded car with weight-adding, range-reducing options such as a panoramic glass roof, performance tires, and rear child seats. This cynic who made that prediction has been posting anti-EV rhetoric for years.</p>
<p>The new EPA five-cycle tests are very accurate and Edmunds has proven that to be so. As a future Model S owner, I&#8217;m going to put low resistance tires on my car, clear plastic covers on the rims, and remove the child seats when I travel, which won&#8217;t be that often. Otherwise, I&#8217;d put 20in performance tires on it. They are lighter than the 21in ones, wider, and look less &#8220;blingy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel H.</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/first-full-test-shows-tesla-model-s-gets-238-miles-range-50663/#comment-40159</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 00:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Motortrend achieved a 288 miles on a trip from L.A. to Las Vegas, and Edmunds achieved 267 miles; much closer to the EPA rating. Also, it was a fully loaded car with weight-adding, range-reducing options such as a panoramic glass roof, performance tires, and rear child seats. This cynic who made that prediction has been posting anti-EV rhetoric for years.&lt;br /&gt;
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The new EPA five-cycle tests are very accurate and Edmunds has proven that to be so. As a future Model S owner, I&#039;m going to put low resistance tires on my car, clear plastic covers on the rims, and remove the child seats when I travel, which won&#039;t be that often. Otherwise, I&#039;d put 20in performance tires on it. They are lighter than the 21in ones, wider, and look less &quot;blingy&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Motortrend achieved a 288 miles on a trip from L.A. to Las Vegas, and Edmunds achieved 267 miles; much closer to the EPA rating. Also, it was a fully loaded car with weight-adding, range-reducing options such as a panoramic glass roof, performance tires, and rear child seats. This cynic who made that prediction has been posting anti-EV rhetoric for years.</p>
<p>The new EPA five-cycle tests are very accurate and Edmunds has proven that to be so. As a future Model S owner, I&#8217;m going to put low resistance tires on my car, clear plastic covers on the rims, and remove the child seats when I travel, which won&#8217;t be that often. Otherwise, I&#8217;d put 20in performance tires on it. They are lighter than the 21in ones, wider, and look less &#8220;blingy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrence Holtzhausen</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/first-full-test-shows-tesla-model-s-gets-238-miles-range-50663/#comment-40158</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrence Holtzhausen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are missing the point my man he is taking the rich peoples money , so that he can perfect the technology for better batteries to emerge and to develop the faster charging bits then when the technology is good the mass market mid rang and cheaper ranges of cars will be tested and proven technology, my two cents.&lt;br /&gt;
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South Africa.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are missing the point my man he is taking the rich peoples money , so that he can perfect the technology for better batteries to emerge and to develop the faster charging bits then when the technology is good the mass market mid rang and cheaper ranges of cars will be tested and proven technology, my two cents.</p>
<p>South Africa.</p>
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		<title>By: Van</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/first-full-test-shows-tesla-model-s-gets-238-miles-range-50663/#comment-40157</link>
		<dc:creator>Van</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the model S does indeed use 93% (79.5 KWh) to go 238 miles, then it gets 3 miles per kwh.  Using these numbers the 60 KWh option (56 available) would have a range of 168 miles, and the 40 KWh option would have a range of 112 miles.  This reinforces the assertion that any EV needs at least 42 kWh available to avoid range issues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the model S does indeed use 93% (79.5 KWh) to go 238 miles, then it gets 3 miles per kwh.  Using these numbers the 60 KWh option (56 available) would have a range of 168 miles, and the 40 KWh option would have a range of 112 miles.  This reinforces the assertion that any EV needs at least 42 kWh available to avoid range issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Fisher</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/first-full-test-shows-tesla-model-s-gets-238-miles-range-50663/#comment-40156</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 00:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It also seems apparent that they did not use it in the range extending mode.  They only actually used ~93% of the battery capacity because the standard mode doesn&#039;t charge 100%.  This is done to increase battery life, but it is set up so that if you are taking a longer trip you can charge that last bit and use it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also seems apparent that they did not use it in the range extending mode.  They only actually used ~93% of the battery capacity because the standard mode doesn&#8217;t charge 100%.  This is done to increase battery life, but it is set up so that if you are taking a longer trip you can charge that last bit and use it.</p>
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		<title>By: MrEnergyCzar</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/first-full-test-shows-tesla-model-s-gets-238-miles-range-50663/#comment-40155</link>
		<dc:creator>MrEnergyCzar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 00:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the one EV with no range anxiety....perfect...let&#039;s hope they stay afloat, I&#039;d hate to see China buy them.&lt;br /&gt;
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MrEnergyCzar]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the one EV with no range anxiety&#8230;.perfect&#8230;let&#8217;s hope they stay afloat, I&#8217;d hate to see China buy them.</p>
<p>MrEnergyCzar</p>
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		<title>By: Van</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/first-full-test-shows-tesla-model-s-gets-238-miles-range-50663/#comment-40154</link>
		<dc:creator>Van</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently, August 14, 2012, Hybridcars posts an article about an engineer questioning the claimed range of the Model S.  The EPA side the range of the 85 KWh model would be 265 miles.  Here is how one poster responded:&lt;br /&gt;
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&quot;If we run those same number for the 85 Kwh version we get between 190 miles and 258 miles, so expect about 225 miles of range in the 85 kwh version.&quot;   &lt;br /&gt;
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It seems that calculation (225) was within 6% of the actual.  Not too shabby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, August 14, 2012, Hybridcars posts an article about an engineer questioning the claimed range of the Model S.  The EPA side the range of the 85 KWh model would be 265 miles.  Here is how one poster responded:</p>
<p>&#8220;If we run those same number for the 85 Kwh version we get between 190 miles and 258 miles, so expect about 225 miles of range in the 85 kwh version.&#8221;   </p>
<p>It seems that calculation (225) was within 6% of the actual.  Not too shabby.</p>
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