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	<title>Comments on: In Era of EV Buzz, Fuel Cell Cars Continue to Roll</title>
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		<title>By: fuel cells</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/era-ev-buzz-fuel-cell-cars-continue-roll-29086/#comment-28579</link>
		<dc:creator>fuel cells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[very informative Blog on alternative energy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very informative Blog on alternative energy</p>
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		<title>By: James Anderton</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/era-ev-buzz-fuel-cell-cars-continue-roll-29086/#comment-28578</link>
		<dc:creator>James Anderton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 20:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Electricity is truly the highest quality form of energy from a conversion/utility standpoint and stored hydrogen can&#039;t compete with stored electric current...IF the hydrogen is produced by electrolysis or fossil fuel feedstocks. But if it can be made by a catalyst using waste heat from power plants or industrial processes, it could be very attractive, at least if/until ultracapacitor technology makes range and recharge time a non-issue.&lt;br /&gt;
Whether it happens or not may be determined by the oil industry, but readers who think the automakers conspire obviously haven&#039;t worked in the industry. The auto industry is highly competetive, but a new car can cost $500 million or more to develop. Only the bravest can spend that kind of money on a gamble, and Wall Street wants to see profit every quarter.  Japanese shareholders will support long term research, which is why we have the Prius etc. The oil companies might conspire, but not the automakers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electricity is truly the highest quality form of energy from a conversion/utility standpoint and stored hydrogen can&#8217;t compete with stored electric current&#8230;IF the hydrogen is produced by electrolysis or fossil fuel feedstocks. But if it can be made by a catalyst using waste heat from power plants or industrial processes, it could be very attractive, at least if/until ultracapacitor technology makes range and recharge time a non-issue.<br />
Whether it happens or not may be determined by the oil industry, but readers who think the automakers conspire obviously haven&#8217;t worked in the industry. The auto industry is highly competetive, but a new car can cost $500 million or more to develop. Only the bravest can spend that kind of money on a gamble, and Wall Street wants to see profit every quarter.  Japanese shareholders will support long term research, which is why we have the Prius etc. The oil companies might conspire, but not the automakers.</p>
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		<title>By: daniel rendler</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel rendler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it is safe to assume that the guys at NASA are pretty smart. They flew our rockets to the moon which were powered by hydrogen .. not batteries. Case closed.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is safe to assume that the guys at NASA are pretty smart. They flew our rockets to the moon which were powered by hydrogen .. not batteries. Case closed.</p>
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		<title>By: MICHELLE BIELA</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/era-ev-buzz-fuel-cell-cars-continue-roll-29086/#comment-28576</link>
		<dc:creator>MICHELLE BIELA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 22:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your thoughtful comments.  I just viewed an online article about GM having a hub in Hawaii for hydrogen run vehicles.  I am praying our society diverts from oil/gasoline.  It is a downward spiral economically.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thoughtful comments.  I just viewed an online article about GM having a hub in Hawaii for hydrogen run vehicles.  I am praying our society diverts from oil/gasoline.  It is a downward spiral economically.</p>
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		<title>By: auto dealers</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/era-ev-buzz-fuel-cell-cars-continue-roll-29086/#comment-28575</link>
		<dc:creator>auto dealers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The article is very interesting, but some issues still remained less affected. I hope that a future article and will reveal things behind the scenes, things that show us the true face of this.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is very interesting, but some issues still remained less affected. I hope that a future article and will reveal things behind the scenes, things that show us the true face of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/era-ev-buzz-fuel-cell-cars-continue-roll-29086/#comment-28574</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 20:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d be willing to bet that the gentleman who is leasing the Mercedes never, ever drives it more than 100 miles in a day. A Nissan LEAF would suffice for his driving and be much easier to charge than fueling an FCV.&lt;br /&gt;
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And talk about range anxiety, try taking an FCV anywhere and you&#039;ll immediately experience severe anxiety over where those mysterious H2 stations are.&lt;br /&gt;
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FCVs are a dead issue for personal vehicles. Even the oil companies think so. Consider that they are the ones who will sell you the H2, but do you see them setting up H2 stations? No. They could install hundreds of them all over CA, but they don&#039;t because they know that battery electrics are going to win the race for zero emission vehicles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be willing to bet that the gentleman who is leasing the Mercedes never, ever drives it more than 100 miles in a day. A Nissan LEAF would suffice for his driving and be much easier to charge than fueling an FCV.</p>
<p>And talk about range anxiety, try taking an FCV anywhere and you&#8217;ll immediately experience severe anxiety over where those mysterious H2 stations are.</p>
<p>FCVs are a dead issue for personal vehicles. Even the oil companies think so. Consider that they are the ones who will sell you the H2, but do you see them setting up H2 stations? No. They could install hundreds of them all over CA, but they don&#8217;t because they know that battery electrics are going to win the race for zero emission vehicles.</p>
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		<title>By: MrEnergyCzar</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrEnergyCzar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 23:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are way more energy losses with making Hydrogen than compared with taking the original energy source and putting it directly in a battery....  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are way more energy losses with making Hydrogen than compared with taking the original energy source and putting it directly in a battery&#8230;.  </p>
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		<title>By: DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 19:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Fool-cell greenwash machine is still alive I see. How can a &#039;long-time enviromental advocate&#039; get behind the FCV?. He is either a shill or just very naive. There is nothing remotely clean about FCV&#039;s. They are economically dubious, too complex, and in no way shape or form is the production distribution or storage of H2 an improvement over the current toxic FF system. Here is what it comes down. Our industrial system is allready beginning to suffer from the effects of declineing net energy. The fact that americans believe that watering down there fuel with 10-15% corn-ethanol that takes more energy to produce than the resulting &#039;fuel&#039; is telling. In any event in a world were the net energy availble to society, to make things like homes, mass-transit systems, toxic plastic garbage from wall-mart etc continues to shrink, there simply wont be a lot of surplus energy lying around to waste on a Fool-cell infastructure. The only net effect will be that complanies like GM can run adds claiming how fool-cell vehicles are just around the corner while in reality, the air water and land will be totally ruined by the waste products from a billion rusting ICE vehicles.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for the persistent fantasy that we will all be makeing our &#039;own&#039; hydrogen from windmills Solar-panels, please give it a rest allready. Energy generation in this civilization is centralized and tightly controlled by either private or quasi-government entities. Even when goverments do control power generation , they show have shown little inclination to premit anything but token distrubted power schemes. And private american style firms, forget it, they simply wont allow any competition. Not one of these home-H2 schemes are remotely freasible, even if goverments would allow it(which they wont), they are energy material and economic sinks. Fool-cell vehicles are nothing but a costly, high-tech dog and pony show, a distraction from the very real problems created by not only ICE vehicles, but vehicles period. Fool-cell cars are DOA not matter how much money goverments give to fraudulent auto-makers like GM. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fool-cell greenwash machine is still alive I see. How can a &#8216;long-time enviromental advocate&#8217; get behind the FCV?. He is either a shill or just very naive. There is nothing remotely clean about FCV&#8217;s. They are economically dubious, too complex, and in no way shape or form is the production distribution or storage of H2 an improvement over the current toxic FF system. Here is what it comes down. Our industrial system is allready beginning to suffer from the effects of declineing net energy. The fact that americans believe that watering down there fuel with 10-15% corn-ethanol that takes more energy to produce than the resulting &#8216;fuel&#8217; is telling. In any event in a world were the net energy availble to society, to make things like homes, mass-transit systems, toxic plastic garbage from wall-mart etc continues to shrink, there simply wont be a lot of surplus energy lying around to waste on a Fool-cell infastructure. The only net effect will be that complanies like GM can run adds claiming how fool-cell vehicles are just around the corner while in reality, the air water and land will be totally ruined by the waste products from a billion rusting ICE vehicles.</p>
<p>As for the persistent fantasy that we will all be makeing our &#8216;own&#8217; hydrogen from windmills Solar-panels, please give it a rest allready. Energy generation in this civilization is centralized and tightly controlled by either private or quasi-government entities. Even when goverments do control power generation , they show have shown little inclination to premit anything but token distrubted power schemes. And private american style firms, forget it, they simply wont allow any competition. Not one of these home-H2 schemes are remotely freasible, even if goverments would allow it(which they wont), they are energy material and economic sinks. Fool-cell vehicles are nothing but a costly, high-tech dog and pony show, a distraction from the very real problems created by not only ICE vehicles, but vehicles period. Fool-cell cars are DOA not matter how much money goverments give to fraudulent auto-makers like GM. </p>
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		<title>By: FamilyGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/era-ev-buzz-fuel-cell-cars-continue-roll-29086/#comment-28571</link>
		<dc:creator>FamilyGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re a two car family.  A traditional ICE car which gets about 350 miles to a tank.  A hybrid which gets about 700 miles to a tank.  Both fill up in about 5 minutes.  The bar has been set.  As much as I like the electric car, I have a hard time with a 100 mile range and overnight to recharge.  The bar has not been reached. &lt;br /&gt;
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I like what I read about hydrogen, &quot;...that hydrogen cars are in fact a kind of electric vehicle, but with longer range and quick refueling.&quot;  If hydrogen can be made from electricity and water and electricity can be made from renewable energy sources like wind farms and waterfalls, then, why can&#039;t hydrogen be made from renewable sources?&lt;br /&gt;
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What came first?  Car or gas stations?  Lack of gas stations didn&#039;t stop cars from becoming popular.  I think when fuel cell cars are ready, hydrogen stations will be ready.  At least I hope so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re a two car family.  A traditional ICE car which gets about 350 miles to a tank.  A hybrid which gets about 700 miles to a tank.  Both fill up in about 5 minutes.  The bar has been set.  As much as I like the electric car, I have a hard time with a 100 mile range and overnight to recharge.  The bar has not been reached. </p>
<p>I like what I read about hydrogen, &#8220;&#8230;that hydrogen cars are in fact a kind of electric vehicle, but with longer range and quick refueling.&#8221;  If hydrogen can be made from electricity and water and electricity can be made from renewable energy sources like wind farms and waterfalls, then, why can&#8217;t hydrogen be made from renewable sources?</p>
<p>What came first?  Car or gas stations?  Lack of gas stations didn&#8217;t stop cars from becoming popular.  I think when fuel cell cars are ready, hydrogen stations will be ready.  At least I hope so.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of years ago the same thing was said about battery cars. There are other ways to produce hydrogen, for example using heat from high temperature nuclear reactors, which are under development and is a lot more efficient than using electricity, as only 30% of heat is transformed into electricity and the rest is wasted during cooling, if that heat together with catalysts is used directly to split the water than it is a lot more eficient than producing electricity and charging batteries. Lets not close our minds and say that only one technology which became mature is the only solution and other less mature technologies are a dead end because today they are not economically viable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of years ago the same thing was said about battery cars. There are other ways to produce hydrogen, for example using heat from high temperature nuclear reactors, which are under development and is a lot more efficient than using electricity, as only 30% of heat is transformed into electricity and the rest is wasted during cooling, if that heat together with catalysts is used directly to split the water than it is a lot more eficient than producing electricity and charging batteries. Lets not close our minds and say that only one technology which became mature is the only solution and other less mature technologies are a dead end because today they are not economically viable.</p>
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