Comments on: Consumers and Carmakers Still Look to Gas-Powered Compacts First for Fuel Savings

By: tapra1

tapra1 — Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:31:30 +0000

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By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 01:11:40 +0000

@Crowder & Chuck:

Have any of you consider the 2011 Honda Insight? It starts from 18.2k, I believe.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 01:09:13 +0000

"Remember the Hyundai did not come to the U.S. until 1986, so other automakers had 6 more years of production then Hyundai during that decade. Hyundai sold 898,000 cars in the U.S. from 1986-89. That's why you wouldn't see a high percentage of any particular model from Hyundai during that time period. The same goes for the Hyundai sales in 1990's. They just didn't sell a lot of cars here. So it's not that they're not on the roads, it's because the percentage of Hyundai's compared to the major automakers is definitely lower. "

@Capt. (sorry your handle is a bit too long... : P)

All Hyundai of the 80s are self-destructible.... trust me. Or you can ask their owners, if you can still find one. I guess you may have better chance to win the powerball lottery, or struck by lightning, figuratively speaking.

Most, if not all, Hyundai of the 90s are craps. See the asking prices on the Craigs list. Or give a few calls to wreckyards and see how much are offered for them.
A good working Hyundai from that era is almost a 'gem', and a rare one.

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By: Capt. Concernicus

Capt. Concernicus — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 02:00:40 +0000

@ Chuck,

First off yes I do see some Hyundai's around every once in a while. Just like I see some Chevy's, Ford's, Toyota's, Honda's etc. I don't see a great number of any one particular model over another.

Remember the Hyundai did not come to the U.S. until 1986, so other automakers had 6 more years of production then Hyundai during that decade. Hyundai sold 898,000 cars in the U.S. from 1986-89. That's why you wouldn't see a high percentage of any particular model from Hyundai during that time period. The same goes for the Hyundai sales in 1990's. They just didn't sell a lot of cars here. So it's not that they're not on the roads, it's because the percentage of Hyundai's compared to the major automakers is definitely lower.

Also, I'm not recommending any cars. I just asked why the other poster didn't look at the Elantra, which does by the way get better gas mileage than the Fiesta and Cruze without the nifty little tricks Chevy and Ford use. Plus, all Elantra models get 40 mpg hwy unlike the Chevy and Ford's.

Anyway, my opinion of what a good car is purely subjective and I love my 2nd gen Prius. It's nearlyt fully loaded and is averaging 50.1 mpg. Sure it's not fast, but at 50.1 mpg I'm not complaining.

By: Chuck

Chuck — Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:58:33 +0000

@ Capt. Concernicus

I wouldn’t say that about Chevy or Ford cars.. I sometimes still see 15~20 year old Chevy, Ford, Toyota, Honda, Dodge and others on the road today.. Do you remember what Hyundai Excel or 1990~1995 Elantra looked like? When was the last time you see those on road? I don’t see them around anymore but I sometimes see Chevy Caprice and Ford Crown Vic form 80’s? Honda CRX from 80’s? How about Dodge Dynasty? People drive them because they love them or whatever other reasons are but… THEY ARE STILL ON OUR ROADS TODAY. Can you give me a definition of good car in your opinion? Are you just looking at EPA and deciding a good car in your opinion and recommending without backing up your thoughts? Go to atutotrader.com and look up 1990~1995 Elantra, Ford Escort and Corolla without distance limitations. These being 15+ year old cars, why are there more Corollas and Escorts out for sell if there are no differences?

By: Old Man Crowder

Old Man Crowder — Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:36:07 +0000

I should clarify that I live in Canada, so my vehicle prices and mpg calculations are a bit different than the American numbers. All-in, I paid just under $20K for the basic pkg with A/C and according to the Cdn figures, my Mazda 2 is rated at 42 city and 50 hwy.

By: Charles

Charles — Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:31:16 +0000

I admit I am not thrilled about buying a first year car. Ford did do really well with the Escape and Fusion Hybrids, even in their first year. The C-Max minus the hybrid system will have been produced for a few years in Europe, so I hope the bugs are mostly gone.

I did buy the Focus new and it has been paid for for many years.

I was really calling myself a geek. The 186,282 miles is a light second. I do know that the Focus will be just about worthless at that time. Nine model years old and a lot of miles, on the cheapest Ford sold in 2004, does not make for great resale value.

There is a plug in version of the C-Max, so I hope to be driving an electric car around town and a hybrid on the highway. It just happens to be the same car.

By: Capt. Concernicus

Capt. Concernicus — Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:03:21 +0000

@ Chuck,

I guess you would say the same thing about the Chevy Cruze and Ford Fiesta, right? As you so elequently put it, "Where do you see anybody stating getting 40mpg on (insert Chevy Cruze or Ford Fiesta here) or even happy driving that junk? Why would you even recommend that? That junk cost $18,000+ and do not deliver the 40mpg and that number is only thing suckering people to buy them..

Same thing right?

By: Chuck

Chuck — Wed, 29 Jun 2011 04:58:02 +0000

Charles, I would give it few years before you hop over to C-max due to bugs it’ll carry since it’s a new vehicle and unless you want to be test dummy, I can’t stop you.. Go for it. You’ve driven your Focus at that mileage (I don’t know if you bought it new or not) , I’m assuming it’s paid off. You know at the trade time it’ll worth nothing.. 186,282 is an even number.. Are you sure you are able to pull it in to dealer at that mileage? Calling me geek because I posted truth is not nice BTW.

I really don’t care if you buy hybrid or not. C-max is not going to be 7 seater so why buy it? It’ll will be sidegrade at most so you can carry more stuff then focus or feel great you are getting great mpg when you paid to have that feeling after even out initial cost? After you meet the initial cost, you’ll need to worry about battery, electric motor, gas engine, and transaxle. Good luck! I hope you enjoy driving any hybrid car you choose because I’ll still be driving gas powered car..