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		<title>By: chitin</title>
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		<dc:creator>chitin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 07:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The good news is you don&#039;t have to water the veggies with all the rain and for a few days afterwards too. I do hope you are able to store some of it at least for when drier times arrive.   &lt;a href=&quot;http://kmec.webs.com/apps/blog/show/18088343-detailed-process-of-corn-oil-production&quot; rel=&quot;dofollow&quot;&gt;oil presses&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good news is you don&#8217;t have to water the veggies with all the rain and for a few days afterwards too. I do hope you are able to store some of it at least for when drier times arrive.   <a href="http://kmec.webs.com/apps/blog/show/18088343-detailed-process-of-corn-oil-production" rel="dofollow">oil presses</a></p>
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		<title>By: Johan Fondin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan Fondin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Sweden where I live the authorities and the market are also pushing for CNG. From an CO2-emission perspective it´s great for the environment.&lt;br /&gt;
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The idea is to use natural (fossil) gas when the pumps are introduced and then, as production increase, insert CNG produced from waste as CNG is basically methane gas.&lt;br /&gt;
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Studies from the Swedish DOE have shown that gas produced from waste actually reduces the CO2-emissions with an amount larger than if the waste would go to waste so to speak. In a well to wheel calculation I kid you not.&lt;br /&gt;
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I live in the Stockholm area and drive a Volvo V70 that is CNG-powered, I like it a lot. My conscience is convinced that I do the environment twice the good by driving an, in essence, emission free car.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Sweden where I live the authorities and the market are also pushing for CNG. From an CO2-emission perspective it´s great for the environment.</p>
<p>The idea is to use natural (fossil) gas when the pumps are introduced and then, as production increase, insert CNG produced from waste as CNG is basically methane gas.</p>
<p>Studies from the Swedish DOE have shown that gas produced from waste actually reduces the CO2-emissions with an amount larger than if the waste would go to waste so to speak. In a well to wheel calculation I kid you not.</p>
<p>I live in the Stockholm area and drive a Volvo V70 that is CNG-powered, I like it a lot. My conscience is convinced that I do the environment twice the good by driving an, in essence, emission free car.</p>
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		<title>By: Johan F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Sweden where I live the authorities and the market are also pushing for CNG. From an CO2-emission perspective it´s great for the environment.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The idea is to use natural (fossil) gas when the pumps are introduced and then, as production increase, insert CNG produced from waste as CNG is basically methane gas.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Studies from the Swedish DOE have shown that gas produced from waste actually reduces the CO2-emissions with an amount larger than if the waste would go to waste so to speak. In a well to wheel calculation I kid you not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I live in the Stockholm area and drive a Volvo V70 that is CNG-powered, I like it a lot. My conscience is convinced that I do the environment twice the good by driving an, in essence, emission free car.&lt;br /&gt;
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BR&lt;br /&gt;
Johan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Sweden where I live the authorities and the market are also pushing for CNG. From an CO2-emission perspective it´s great for the environment.</p>
<p>The idea is to use natural (fossil) gas when the pumps are introduced and then, as production increase, insert CNG produced from waste as CNG is basically methane gas.</p>
<p>Studies from the Swedish DOE have shown that gas produced from waste actually reduces the CO2-emissions with an amount larger than if the waste would go to waste so to speak. In a well to wheel calculation I kid you not.</p>
<p>I live in the Stockholm area and drive a Volvo V70 that is CNG-powered, I like it a lot. My conscience is convinced that I do the environment twice the good by driving an, in essence, emission free car.</p>
<p>BR<br />
Johan</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 17:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.eia.gov/cneaf/electricity/epm/table1_1.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Utilities have reduced the Power generation from Oil from 3% in 2000 to .9% in 2010.  In the next few years, they may totally eliminate Oil as the cheap gas and wind and solar increases.&lt;br /&gt;
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Infact, many countries like Russia, Japan, Korea, Iran, Kuwait are doing the same without any noise.  Only when the vehicles move to other fuel,  it becomes a good news.&lt;br /&gt;
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Infact the households that use Oil for heating should be prompted to switch over to other fuels.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.eia.gov/cneaf/electricity/epm/table1_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.eia.gov/cneaf/electricity/epm/table1_1.html</a></p>
<p>Utilities have reduced the Power generation from Oil from 3% in 2000 to .9% in 2010.  In the next few years, they may totally eliminate Oil as the cheap gas and wind and solar increases.</p>
<p>Infact, many countries like Russia, Japan, Korea, Iran, Kuwait are doing the same without any noise.  Only when the vehicles move to other fuel,  it becomes a good news.</p>
<p>Infact the households that use Oil for heating should be prompted to switch over to other fuels.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Methanation : Its a process by which any substance with Carbon like Coal, Food or Animal waste,  Plants can be converted into Methane (CH4) or Natgas.&lt;br /&gt;
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We have a lot of coal and the waste matter from plants, the food and animal waste and we can use all these to convert to natgas and Germany &amp; Sweden has been extracting lot of Bio-Methane this way and using it in natgas grid and also to power the vehicles.  This is a renewable energy which does not face the threat of depletion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also now we have the Shale gas,  in the future, companies might find way to extract natgas from Gas Hydrates from the Sea.  So we can move all our Trucks, Trains &amp; Ships to Natgas and expect a cleaner, greener future.&lt;br /&gt;
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As we speak, Diesel prices are 3.985 / gallon and this is already causing Inflation.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Methanation : Its a process by which any substance with Carbon like Coal, Food or Animal waste,  Plants can be converted into Methane (CH4) or Natgas.</p>
<p>We have a lot of coal and the waste matter from plants, the food and animal waste and we can use all these to convert to natgas and Germany &#038; Sweden has been extracting lot of Bio-Methane this way and using it in natgas grid and also to power the vehicles.  This is a renewable energy which does not face the threat of depletion.</p>
<p>Also now we have the Shale gas,  in the future, companies might find way to extract natgas from Gas Hydrates from the Sea.  So we can move all our Trucks, Trains &#038; Ships to Natgas and expect a cleaner, greener future.</p>
<p>As we speak, Diesel prices are 3.985 / gallon and this is already causing Inflation.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think they are referring to $40,000 for 18 wheeler,  so for a typical pickup,  it should be around $5,000]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they are referring to $40,000 for 18 wheeler,  so for a typical pickup,  it should be around $5,000</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 13:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good writing Fred Linn.&lt;br /&gt;
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In India, it costs only $800 to convert a small car that runs on Gasoline to run on Bi-Fuel (Gasoline &amp; CNG),  here because of higher labor cost, it may cost around $2,000 and around $5,000 - $10,000 for a truck,  but $40,000 is a big blough.  Some in the media wants to send false info.&lt;br /&gt;
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Even if it costs $320 billion to convert all trucks to CNG,  we can get the ROI.  Every day we spend $1 billion to import Foreign Oil which means $365 billion / year.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good writing Fred Linn.</p>
<p>In India, it costs only $800 to convert a small car that runs on Gasoline to run on Bi-Fuel (Gasoline &#038; CNG),  here because of higher labor cost, it may cost around $2,000 and around $5,000 &#8211; $10,000 for a truck,  but $40,000 is a big blough.  Some in the media wants to send false info.</p>
<p>Even if it costs $320 billion to convert all trucks to CNG,  we can get the ROI.  Every day we spend $1 billion to import Foreign Oil which means $365 billion / year.  </p>
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		<title>By: Fred Linn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Linn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 19:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[----------&quot; At a price of about $40,000 per vehicle, converting the entire sector over the CNG wouldn&#039;t be cheap—about $320 billion according to one estimate—but could save businesses and the federal government a good deal of money over the long run.&quot;--------&lt;br /&gt;
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      This is a completely stupid statement.     That is $40,000 per vehicle.    The cost of most natural gas retrofits is $1500 to $2500 for passenger cars.      Trucks are more, but even at a cost of $5000-$10,000 for a retrofit, commercial trucks would easily pay back the retrofit and show a profit in less than one year.      &lt;br /&gt;
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       NG retrofits have been used for over 70 years in Russia and other very cold climates for starting diesel engines and warming them up in cold conditions.      Liquid diesel has problems with starting and fuel gelling at cold temperatures.      Liquid also does not vaporize properly in cold temperatures.     NG does not need to vaporize----it is already a gas.     NG also does not produce huge clouds of black smoke(PM---particulate matter). it burns completely regardless of temperature.        This means no leaving diesels idling for hours due to problems starting and warming up to operating temperatures.&lt;br /&gt;
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      Some other advantages to NG.      Since it is a gas, it is easy to remove impurities before it is used.      NG is one of the cleanest fuel sources we have.      &lt;br /&gt;
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       NG produces only 65% of the CO2 that petroleum does to yield the same amount of BTU energy.        If all vehicles on the road used natural gas----the CO2 equivalent produced would be the same as removing one out of every three vehicles.&lt;br /&gt;
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       The same amount of energy in BTUs contained in a barrel of oil costing a little over $100 right now, costs about $16 to $20 with natural gas.     &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       Natural gas is abundant, with proven reserves estimated to last over 100 years----and clathrate deposits not even considered.   There is more NG available than all coal and petroleum deposits combined.        And NG does not need to be converted or refined.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       Methane(natural gas) is both a fossil fuel AND a biofuel.     We can produce natural gas easily and inexpensively from any type of biomass at all, including sewage and landfills----we&#039;ve been doing it for over 160 years.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       Fossil methane, and biomethane are the same stuff.    They are chemically identical.     CH4.      They can be mixed in any proportion whatever with no loss of performance in any application.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       Natural gas can be used in any application that we need done.    It can even be used in catalytic fuel cells top produce electricity.    The city of Portland OR has been using catalytic fuel cells to provide the power to run a sewage treatment plant using methane captured from the sewage treatment process.     This has been done since 1999----and saves over $1000  per day in electricity costs.        &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       Germany has installed over 5,000 natural gas fueling stations, and one city of 90,000 population(Lunen) supplies all of their energy needs and a significant portion of transportation needs with biomethane made from sewage from livestock farms in the vicinity.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
       We have 100 years reserve of natural gas----if we build the capacity to produce just 1% of our natural gas usage per year----at the end of 100 years, we will be producing 100% of our energy needs from biomass-----and 50% of the reserves will still be in the ground.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-&#8221; At a price of about $40,000 per vehicle, converting the entire sector over the CNG wouldn&#8217;t be cheap—about $320 billion according to one estimate—but could save businesses and the federal government a good deal of money over the long run.&#8221;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>      This is a completely stupid statement.     That is $40,000 per vehicle.    The cost of most natural gas retrofits is $1500 to $2500 for passenger cars.      Trucks are more, but even at a cost of $5000-$10,000 for a retrofit, commercial trucks would easily pay back the retrofit and show a profit in less than one year.      </p>
<p>       NG retrofits have been used for over 70 years in Russia and other very cold climates for starting diesel engines and warming them up in cold conditions.      Liquid diesel has problems with starting and fuel gelling at cold temperatures.      Liquid also does not vaporize properly in cold temperatures.     NG does not need to vaporize&#8212;-it is already a gas.     NG also does not produce huge clouds of black smoke(PM&#8212;particulate matter). it burns completely regardless of temperature.        This means no leaving diesels idling for hours due to problems starting and warming up to operating temperatures.</p>
<p>      Some other advantages to NG.      Since it is a gas, it is easy to remove impurities before it is used.      NG is one of the cleanest fuel sources we have.      </p>
<p>       NG produces only 65% of the CO2 that petroleum does to yield the same amount of BTU energy.        If all vehicles on the road used natural gas&#8212;-the CO2 equivalent produced would be the same as removing one out of every three vehicles.</p>
<p>       The same amount of energy in BTUs contained in a barrel of oil costing a little over $100 right now, costs about $16 to $20 with natural gas.     </p>
<p>       Natural gas is abundant, with proven reserves estimated to last over 100 years&#8212;-and clathrate deposits not even considered.   There is more NG available than all coal and petroleum deposits combined.        And NG does not need to be converted or refined.</p>
<p>       Methane(natural gas) is both a fossil fuel AND a biofuel.     We can produce natural gas easily and inexpensively from any type of biomass at all, including sewage and landfills&#8212;-we&#8217;ve been doing it for over 160 years.</p>
<p>       Fossil methane, and biomethane are the same stuff.    They are chemically identical.     CH4.      They can be mixed in any proportion whatever with no loss of performance in any application.</p>
<p>       Natural gas can be used in any application that we need done.    It can even be used in catalytic fuel cells top produce electricity.    The city of Portland OR has been using catalytic fuel cells to provide the power to run a sewage treatment plant using methane captured from the sewage treatment process.     This has been done since 1999&#8212;-and saves over $1000  per day in electricity costs.        </p>
<p>       Germany has installed over 5,000 natural gas fueling stations, and one city of 90,000 population(Lunen) supplies all of their energy needs and a significant portion of transportation needs with biomethane made from sewage from livestock farms in the vicinity.</p>
<p>       We have 100 years reserve of natural gas&#8212;-if we build the capacity to produce just 1% of our natural gas usage per year&#8212;-at the end of 100 years, we will be producing 100% of our energy needs from biomass&#8212;&#8211;and 50% of the reserves will still be in the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: k Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>k Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alternative methods of fracking are already hitting the mainstream.  Gasfracking could very well end up being the standard as it uses propane to create the fracture and nearly 100% of it is recovered through the well.  Also, it is shown to drastically increase well production over hydraulic fracturing, so it may not be a very hard sell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alternative methods of fracking are already hitting the mainstream.  Gasfracking could very well end up being the standard as it uses propane to create the fracture and nearly 100% of it is recovered through the well.  Also, it is shown to drastically increase well production over hydraulic fracturing, so it may not be a very hard sell.</p>
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		<title>By: Lad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 22:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a good interim solution as we move to BEVs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good interim solution as we move to BEVs</p>
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