Toyota Camry Hybrid
By Larry E. Hall
Driving the all-new 2012 Toyota Camry Hybrid is pretty much like driving the all-new gas powered 2012 Camry. Now I don’t expect you to take my word on this so, I would like to throw out a challenge. When the 2012 Toyota Camry rolls into dealerships in November, take both cars out for a test drive. But, when you slip behind the steering wheels, you can’t know which version of the car you are testing.
After you’ve driven both cars I’m willing to bet—not large sums, well, a few pennies to be exact—that unless you’re among the most perceptive of drivers, you found little if any difference in the driving experience between the two cars.
Camry has been America’s top-selling car nine out of the last 10 years, but competition is brutal with Ford, Hyundai, Kia and even Volkswagen making significant inroads with their midsize entries. As for the Camry Hybrid, it has taken a beating. Introduced in 2006 as a 2007 model, it quickly became the second best-selling hybrid behind the Prius. By the end of 2010, it dropped to fourth best selling hybrid. For the first six-months of this year, it has slipped to eighth, with the Hyundai Sonata Hybrid and Ford Fusion Hybrid the big gainers.
Toyota is confident the seventh-generation Camry will continue its streak of being the best seller. It is equally confident the 2012 Camry Hybrid will double its sales in its first year to around 50,000 to reclaim its sales ranking. Here’s why.
More Power And More MPG
The 2012 Camry Hybrid boasts the latest incarnation of Toyota’s Hybrid Synergy Drive. The hybrid system again teams a four-cylinder engine, a small high torque electric motor and nickel-metal hydride batteries. Power continues to be directed to the front wheels through the transaxle’s continuously variable transmission.
The first half of the Camry Hybrid drivetrain is a new Atkinson-cycle version of the base Camry’s 2.5-liter four-cylinder engine. (An Atkinson-cycle engine gives up a little power output in exchange for improved fuel efficiency and reduced emissions.) The engine produces 156 horsepower, nine more than the 2.4-liter in the 2011 Camry Hybrid. The larger displacement and more efficient combustion boosts torque to 156 pound-feet, 16 more than the outgoing model.
The second half is a 105-kW electric motor and a revised 245-volt battery pack. The battery pack consists of 34 nickel-metal hydride modules, each of which contains six 1.2-volt cells. Although smaller in size, the battery pack stores and delivers more power.
Combined power output of the hybrid powertrain is 200 horsepower, a gain of 13 horsepower compared to the previous version. (Toyota does not publish a net hybrid torque figure, though it states the electric motor alone spins out 199 pounds-feet.)
Fuel economy for the previous generation Camry Hybrid—31 mpg city/35 highway/33 combined—was first eclipsed by the Ford Fusion Hybrid and then Hyundai’s Sonata Hybrid. But the 2012 model demonstrates Toyota’s expertise in gasoline-electric hybrid technology, delivering a 43/39 mpg EPA fuel economy rating with a combined average of 41 mpg. That’s a whopping 12 mpg increase in city driving and an impressive gain of 8 mpg for combined driving cycles, numbers that elevate the Camry Hybrid to again claim the title of most fuel-efficient midsize sedan.
So, how did the automaker produce a car with more power and more miles per gallon?
Weight is a major nemesis of fuel economy, and engineers cut around 250 pounds from the new hybrid. This includes trimming the size and weight of the battery pack.
Aerodynamics plays an important role in fuel economy and the 2012 Camry Hybrid achieves a notable 0.27 coefficient of drag (Cd) wind resistance. (The Toyota Prius registers 0.25 Cd.) To reach that number, underbody aerodynamic cladding was strategically placed and, the side-view mirrors and taillight lenses have integrated small fins that create a buffer around the car, helping the vehicle to slip through the air. This aero design trick was culled from Toyota’s Formula One days.
Under the hood, the engine features a roller-rocker type valvetrain and a variable-output oil pump that help reduce internal friction, boosting economy. Another fuel-saving strategy is a water-cooled exhaust-gas recirculation (EGR) system. This feature boosts fuel economy by reducing engine pumping losses. Also, accessory drive belts have been eliminated, replaced by electric driven accessories, including the air conditioning compressor, water pump and power steering pump.
Software engineers are credited for helping to increase the mpg numbers by enhancing the hybrid system’s power management; the Hybrid’s electronic sensors precisely determine what blend of gas and electric propulsion best balances power and fuel economy. And finally, Toyota says lower rolling resistance tires also help boost fuel economy.
Exterior
Like the gasoline models, the 2012 Camry Hybrid rides on an all-new platform, though wheelbase, length, width and height are carried-over dimensions. The result is a familiar looking vehicle, even though designers clad the sedan in all-new sheetmetal from bumper to bumper.
Except for those who work at a Toyota dealership, most people when they see the new car won’t say, "Wow, that’s the new Camry." And surely there will be a host of auto critics who will berate Toyota for their conservative redesign, pointing to the Hyundai Sonata with its swoopy lines and sharp creases. But their livelihood isn’t dependent on Camry sales.
Toyota says that 50 percent of new Camry buyers will be current Camry owners. With a projected 360,000 first year sales—50,000 hybrids—the automaker wisely won’t risk alienating that many loyal customers with polarizing styling. Granted, this seventh-generation Camry’s sheetmetal clothing bears more than just a little kinship to the previous model, the styling, while not stirring or striking, is clean, handsome and safe.
The most noteworthy change is up front where a new chrome grille sweeps upward to a refreshed headlight design. Below, an expansive air inlet is flanked by trapezoidal chrome fog light recesses. The design fools the eye and gives the impression of greater width. In the rear, chrome taillight accents were discarded and replaced by a more curved design that wraps into the rear side panels and extends into the trunk.
There is little to distinguish the Camry Hybrid from the gasoline models. Small hybrid badges adorn the front fenders and trunk. The front Toyota emblem has a blue background rather than black, borrowing a design element from the Prius.
Interior
Toyota heeded remarks about the hard, cheap looking interior plastics of the previous Camry. The 2012 Camry’s cabin is nicely furnished and is now on par with competitors. Soft-touch plastic on the upper dash is given an upscale appearance with genuine cloth stitching. Soft textures are also used on the upper door trim, door and center console armrests as well as kneepads on either side of the console.
Exclusive interior design touches differentiate the 2012 Camry Hybrid from other Camry models. The Hybrid’s "metallic-tech grain" trim is a combination of a black dashboard with brushed-aluminum highlights and light gray or ivory seat fabrics. Unique to the Hybrid is a three-gauge instrument cluster with an analog fuel economy gauge plus, a power-flow display graphically shows energy flow, cruising range and real-time fuel economy.
Seating is all-day comfortable, and not just in the front row. Camry seats are kind to the gluteal portions of the anatomy, important in a car with a fuel range of 650-plus miles. Designers reshaped interior components to make it more spacious, with big gains in rear seat leg and hip room.
There’s also more trunk space. The trunk mounted battery pack was reduced in size and the DC-to-DC converter was moved from the trunk area to under the hood. That increased cargo room to 13.1 cubic feet, a 2.5 cubic feet gain. For long items, the right rear seatback folds forward.
On The Road
Toyota’s press introduction was held on the eastern slopes of Washington state’s Cascade Mountains, about three miles from the tiny town of Rosyln, the setting for the somewhat outré 1990’s TV series, Northern Exposure. There were several drive routes offered that included some marvelous two-lane black top roads that encouraged back road two-stepping, nearby Interstate 5 and a drive through the small town of Cle Elum.
The 2012 Camry Hybrid feels more like V-6 power than inline four. Toyota says the scoot from 0 to 60 mph is 7.6 seconds—halfway between the gas V-6’s time of 6.8 seconds and the four cylinder’s 8.6 seconds. Throttle response is near perfect; ideal for highway on-ramps as I found out when an 18-wheeler was motivating faster than I first thought. At the same time, the car is smooth as silk in low speed conditions.
Transition from gas engine to electric motor and back again is no longer "almost seamless," it is seamless—no shuddering, no shimmying; none, nada. As for the quirky, almost brick-like feel of the regenerative brake system of the previous Hybrid, it doesn’t exist anymore. Brake pedal feel is equal to gas-powered Camrys and very linear.
In terms of handling, the Camry is more than competent and is devoid of vices and totally predictable. It corners well and the electric power steering has good on-center feel and offers decent driver feedback.
But Camry’s are best known for their ride quality. A more rigid body structure and tweaks to the all-independent suspension provide a smooth and compliant feel that makes it ideal for long trips and daily commuting.
Cabin noise intrusion plays a role in perceived ride quality. Toyota has made wind noise almost nonexistent in the Hybrid with stronger door and rocker area seals; optimized placement of sound insulating materials; foam the roof, pillars and door openings; and acoustic glass used for the windshield.
All this adds up to a controlled, balanced and comfortable four-door family sedan. And then there’s fuel economy, what the Camry Hybrid is really all about. I drove three stints on a route that was a near duplicate of my wife’s daily 15 mile commute—a tad over two miles on the freeway and the balance on city and rural roads with speed limits of 25 to 40 mph. In the 2011 Hybrid, the instrument panel readout was 44.5 mpg, the 2012 Hybrid LE model yielded 49.7 mpg.
My third trip was in the Hybrid XLE model, yes there are two Hybrid versions for 2012 (see below). By employing the Eco mode, which maximizes fuel economy across all driving conditions, and the new EV mode that keeps the vehicle in electric drive only up to 25 mph, the readout was 58.5 mpg. A longer 54-mile drive in the XLE that included a little over 40 miles on the Interstate registered 48.2 mpg.
All of these fuel economy numbers far exceed the EPA estimates, and for a couple of reasons. First, I’m quite sure I was more judicious in managing fuel economy than the EPA’s protocols. Second, the EPA does not factor the Eco and EV modes in their fuel economy estimates. Or, as the EPA says, “Your fuel economy may vary.”
More Car For Less Money
For the first time, the Camry Hybrid will be offered in trim levels, LE and XLE. The Camry Hybrid LE has a sticker price of $25,900, that’s $1,150 less than the outgoing model. And, this is no stripper model. Standard features include: keyless access with push-button start; power windows, locks and outside mirrors; cruise control; dual-zone automatic climate control, tilt/telescoping steering-wheel; and an audio system with Bluetooth and USB/iPod connectivity.
Step-up to the XLE and the base price of $27,400 is a decrease of $800 compared to last year’s model with upgrade package. The additional $1,500 for the XLE adds a power driver’s seat, a touch-screen stereo display and 17-inch alloy wheels.
A blind-spot warning system is an option on the XLE as is a JBL audio system, two separate navigation systems and Toyota’s Entune multimedia system. Entune includes apps like OpenTable, and Movietickets.com so you can book a restaurant or buy movie tickets, as well as iheartradio that offers different streaming radio stations from across the country.
The average age of Camry Hybrid owners is 64 and it would seem they would be more likely to own a Jitterbug cell phone than a smart phone, which is required for Entune. For the hip baby boomers, the apps are free but the smart phone data time will cost you.
Completing the Camry Hybrid’s resume are all the biggies when it comes to standard safety systems. For active safety, Toyota’s Star Safety System integrates stability control, anti-lock disc braking system and traction control. Passive safety features 10 passenger airbags that include, in addition to head-protecting curtain side airbags, driver and passenger front knee airbags and torso-protecting rear-seat-mounted outboard-side airbags.
The Competition
Comparing the Camry Hybrid with the Ford Fusion Hybrid and Hyundai Sonata Hybrid reveals the competition between the three is fierce. The Camry’s base price is $25,900, the Sonata stickers for $25,795 and the Fusion is priced at $28,600. But at the pump, the Camry is the clear winner, besting the Sonata’s city fuel economy by 8 mpg and the Fusion by 2 mpg.
New hybrid car buyers with no attachments to a brand will have to spend some time to determine which of the above three is right for them. For Toyota devotees, however, it is pretty much a no brainer: The 2012 Camry Hybrid offers plenty of power, an excellent interior, loads of features, enough room for five adult and then there’s that fuel economy.
The 2012 Camry will most likely again be the top selling car in the U.S. But when the numbers are tallied, don’t be surprised if the Camry Hybrid racks up a total way beyond the 50,000 the automaker is projecting.
Prices are Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) at time of writing and do not include destination charges, taxes or licensing.
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43 / 39 MPG 5.47 / 6.03 L/100km
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BODY TYPE:
Sedan
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TECHNOLOGY:
Hybrid
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BASE MSRP:
$25,900
37 weeks ago
Meh, I'm not too impressed with the redesign. Pretty sure the Hyundai is going to continue to dominate the Toyota.
37 weeks ago
It is not smart to judge a car just by how it looks, what's inside is way more important. That is what a typical Toyota camry buyers are looking for.
37 weeks ago
With these three great looking cars: Ford Fusion Hybrid, Hyundai Sonata Hybrid, and now the Toyota Camry Hybrid - and with their great gas millage - and even though all three can still get lost in a crowd because they look almost like triplets, ...why would anyone even take a first look at the Chevy Volt hybrid with its low gas millage and high sticker price?
37 weeks ago
What happened to the numerous Chevy Volt commercials that usually dominate all your articles?
37 weeks ago
While Sonata-H boasts Li-Ion battery, Camry-H still has Ni-Mh, but still it has higher MPG, CVT tranny and many other better features for a few hundred dollars more. Between Sonata-H, Optima-H and Camry-H, there will be fierce competition, but Fusion-H which is $2K more may go down in sales.
Time for Ford to reduce price. So competition has forced Toyota to reduce the price of Camry-H with a LE trim.
If Camry-H has better pickup, why would anyone buy a V6.
37 weeks ago
"If Camry-H has better pickup, why would anyone buy a V6." Because there are still many morons out there.
37 weeks ago
Dear Toyota,
Please put the same 2.5 HSD drivetrain to Prius V body and make it look like an angular but aerodynamic SUV.
Keep it at 41 mpg combined.
Thank you.
37 weeks ago
IMHO this is the best looking Camry to date.
Kudos Toyota.
37 weeks ago
OK Toyota - where is the new 2 door Solara hybrid? ;-)
37 weeks ago
Really TOYOTA is the best manufactured company in the auto world. I like Redesign & interior. This color is attractive & helpful to attract peoples. The silver wheel trims also stand out from the shiny exterior.Hybrid technology is the best technology developing in automotive world and doing great.
37 weeks ago
That's just personal taste. I personally HATE your beloved Hyundai Sonata's "swoosh" design -- and you'll note the article even mentions that Hyundai's design is polarizing. Certainly this Camry design is retro to a degree, but it's also superior to the design it's replacing (which I don't like). And it corrects the "cheap interior" of the previous Camry generation.
While a conservative design, I would expect most Camry owners (of which I'm guessing you're NOT) to embrace the 2012 vehicle. So it should sell a lot of units.
BTW, I test drove your 2012 Hyundai Sonata. Not a bad car (except for the terrible exterior design). But while it handled well, I found it no better in handling than the previous generation Camry that I don't endorse. And I would expect the 2012 Camry to exceed the Sonata in handling and ride. We shall see.
35 weeks ago
I think this Camry hybrid is going to surprise a lot of people. Its gonna fly off the floors and they won't be able to keep them in stock. Im sure Im not the only person who is going to be dumping their mini-van, especially soccer moms whove come of age, and are tired of their vans. If people don't have more than 3 kids, they are going to be buying this car in droves. 43 MPG vs 16 at best from the Sienna.
Then there are those in the market for a sedan, which will be all those older folks, and its going to nail anyone looking for a sedan between the $24K and $30k price range. Competitors are going to be dying from this hybrid. Sure the styling isn't dramatic, but you could stick any badge on it, and you can't tell it from the Honda, Hyundai, or any Japan based car. The thing just oozes quality, reliability, economy, and solid ride.
The GM Volt was DOA, anyway, and Hyundai is the only nearest competitor who has half a chance. Mazda, Nissan, Honda, are also rans. The german cars are for the silly snobs who love to waste their money. Ford is making cars that only 20 years old can tolerate. Good job Toyota ! My camry goes to my son, my wife gets this new one, and we trade in our Sienna. Not saying what Im buying but its going to have the Toyota badge on it for sure.
34 weeks ago
I am a current Camry Owner(10 yrs) I am considering a Toyata Prius
but perhaps should wait for 2012 Camry Hybrid. I like what I'm
reading
32 weeks ago
HMMM no "buy American made products" comments interesting in these times.
32 weeks ago
I drove a 2012 hyundai SONATA TODAY IT'S A GOOD CAR ,
BUT IT'S LIKE YOUR SITTING INSIDE A FOOTBALL , VERY ROUND AT THE TOP AND NOT MADE FOR TALL PEOPLE PLUS NO POWER
SEAT FOR THE PASSENGER 2012 CAMRY HAS A BETTER RIDE
AND SEATING .......
31 weeks ago
Well, I'm bummed about the design, but loving the mileage & price (though, less is best). The back of it keeps making me think of a subaru- of which I'm really not a fan. The front looks like a acura- looks good. Anyone know what the battery mileage/year warranty on this new thing will be? Replacement costs? I've read they last only around 7 years....but curious other opinions.
I love my 1999 toyota 4runner, but may add this to the family mix. Also, excited about the rear seat being able to fold & extra space..though still may need a car top carrier for those occasional long trips with 2 kiddos & stuff. Looking good Toyota- keep it up and get us to 50mpg- I know you can do it!
30 weeks ago
Anyone know if the new Toyota-H seats are improved? I had a 2007 and the seats were terrible after an hour on the road, even with power adjustments. I loved the car otherwise. I can't imagine my wife and I were the only ones that complained about the seats.
29 weeks ago
I can get a 2012 EX Insight with my desired colors inside and outside my desired options and with black interior, and leather trimmed with door guards and "all season" floor mats and BEAT the fuel economy of the Camry and pay less at 22,931 including destination charge
29 weeks ago
Whoever came up with those light gray tri-colored leather seats in this hybrid?! That was a sales-killer for us. Looks very cheap. Why wouldn't they go with a solid charcoal gray which would have been much classier? Design and performance are great, but yuck on those seats. For $5K more you can get into the Lincoln MKZ hybrid very nicely equipped.
29 weeks ago
How come the Honda Fit hybrid isn't mentioned? Costs under $22k n gets ant the same gas mileage
29 weeks ago
Cant wait to get one of these. Anyone knows when this will be available in the US ?
29 weeks ago
I tend to agree with your comments on the seats: I think they're okay, but they're also not how I would have designed them. I test-drove a Camry LE the other week (nice ride and handling), and I'll also make the comment on the two-tone gray dash (dark and light). It's not terrible, and some will love it, but I'd prefer it all one dark color. I think Toyota was just trying to be different for differance's sake, and I'll wager right now that sometime in years 2-4 of this Camry generation that the dash and seats will change.
Also, I checked out (but did not drive) a 2012 Camry SE. That was more my flavor, with a uniform dark dash, and one color (black) seats. The most pleasing Toyota interior I viewed that day, Camry or otherwise.
28 weeks ago
Hi Jeff...I had a 2009 Camry Hybrid and had to dump it due to terrible seat comfort. Took a 5 hour trip to Philadelphia to Pittsburgh and my back was killing me upon arrival. could never get comfortable. I read that for 2012 Toyota made the seat bottom longer and more supportive. I am going to check it out early next year and, if comfortable, may be putting myself back into one.
28 weeks ago
Does the internet work when the car is in drive? If so, I personally would boycott this car! Does anyone know?
28 weeks ago
Have any of you driven the hybrids on ice or snowy hiills? I heard they shut down when the tires spin!
27 weeks ago
I had planned test drive a Nissan Leaf, very worried about breaking my rule about only considering a time tested car.
Based on this review I will wait for the Camry hybrid.
' the best hybrids of the 21st century are the best gas cars
Of the 20th ?!
26 weeks ago
I currently own a 2007 Camry Hybrid, and overall like it. I checked out the 2012 today and it looks quite nice. I'll probably look at getting one sometime next year.
26 weeks ago
I just bought a Camry H XLE with NV/moomroo/leather....yesterday. Love it so far. Will do a road test for two weeks to see what actual mpg is.
25 weeks ago
When Ford introduced the Edsel in the late 1950's it realized after a production run of three years and over 600,000 vehicle's that it wasn't a success and openly said so. Now GM has the Volt which still has poor sales, a dismal performance record; a big price and they are calling it a success. Hello... is anyone watching this swindle. The Toyota, Nissan and Hyundai Hybrids all are a big success. Not perfect but certainly far better than any US big three has introduced thus far. I drove all three and wouldn't hesitate to purchase any of the three. They are good automobiles in my opinion.
25 weeks ago
I am still waiting for the Camry. Which city are you in and where did you buy the Camry. Does the Camry XLE come with one color Leather seats or are they 3 colored like the XLE non hybrid.
Also please let me know how much you paid for it. I can't wait to buy one! They are not in Texas yet. I was told they will be here end of December.
25 weeks ago
Just test drove a 2012 Camry Hybrid. Liked it on the whole, though there is one thing very weird about it: it whines when stopping.. sounds rather like an ambulance siren going a few blocks away. Has anyone else noticed this? Is this a common characteristic of these types of transmissions? This may be a deal breaker for me.
25 weeks ago
Totally agree about the seats. Uuggllyy!! Cheap looking too!! Looking at the Lacrosse. Awesome car!! The ride is amazing and very plush interior!! Better warranty than Camry too. So sorry Toyota!
24 weeks ago
Does anyone know if Toyota is yet shipping XLE's with the side Blind Spot Monitor in the US?
24 weeks ago
Did you buy your Hybrid 2012 Camry in US or Canada ? I have not heard of it selling in the US yet.
24 weeks ago
Just got my XLE hybrid last night. So, yes, they are out, at least in Texas. First impression is very positive. I was amazed at how long I could go on "EV only" at 40 mph on a flat road. Will provide more details after some experience.
24 weeks ago
Where in Texas did you get it? None of the Houston Toyota dealers have it yet. If you don't mind telling me how much did you pay for it and what options did you get. Thanks for your response.
24 weeks ago
I got it from Toyota of Richardson (Richardson, TX). I put a down payment on it back on 11/4. It is an XLT with the convenience package (CQ), premium mats (CF), Vehicle shield package (P2 - - didn't want this, but it "already had it" - - right) and tint. Paid $30,500 out the door. That's about $1500 less than suggested retail.
24 weeks ago
This whine sound (sounds like a siren winding down) is normal with regenerative brakes. It is the sound of the motor in generator mode. I just got my Camry hybrid and I had the same concern. Do some searching on this site - - you will find that it is very common.
24 weeks ago
Thanks for your prompt response. What kind of cloth seats does it have. Is it the same as the regular XLE with three colors and a brown stripe ?
24 weeks ago
Yes, it is officially "Ivory/Parchment/Ecru."
24 weeks ago
Picked mine up last Monday in Southern California. Hard to find one! My husband purchased it for me while I was in Europe and we picked it up the day I returned. Magnetic Grey Metalic with dove Leather/Suede seats which are pretty nice looking. It is a big upgrade from my 08 Prius which was also well appointed. I paid sticker but got a great trade in price for my Prius. I think the car has everything possible except the blindspot indicator. Entune is a bit confusing and works differently with Iphone than it does with Android. Dealers are still not up to speed on Entune features so we are figuring stuff out by ourselves. One feature which allows you to respond to text messages with voice command does not yet work with Iphone because of the way the SMS software is set up. I guess we are the guinea pigs for Entune.
24 weeks ago
Had my 12' Hybrid XLE for over a week now. Must say that the ride is absolutely fabulous, totally blew my expectations. Purchased it in El Cajon, was the first one that arrived. Luckily it had the color and options that I wanted. Which was almost everything! 8-)
24 weeks ago
Hi BG,
You're right, the vehicles are incredibly difficult to locate right now. Took me several weeks to track mine down. Most dealerships in So Cal are taking security deposits for theirs. As far as Entune goes, you're correct to assume that SMS feature isn't available for the iPhone yet. With the latest iOS release, Toyota isn't predicting to have this feature avaialbe until probably the 2nd or 3rd quarter of 2012 since it needs to teather in some unique way. Just need to figure out some way for Entune to make me coffee in the morning. 8-)
23 weeks ago
Maybe because it is not a hybrid ... it has an all-electric power train. This may be important to some people as it allows for people to run gas free if their daily commute is within the battery range of the Volt.
23 weeks ago
Just bought my new 2012 Camry Hybrid XLE in South Carolina (I live in Georgia). I hate moonroofs so I purchased a cloth interior and my dealer switched it to a leather interior as you can't get a factory made leather interior without getting the moonroof as well. I love love love this car. There are very very few 2012s available in my 5 state area and I had to have mine shipped from Tennessee. The ride is whisper quiet and smooth and I happen to like the soft whooshing regenerative brake sound. My fiance drives a V8 Mustang and he's very jealous of my new baby :)
22 weeks ago
Thank you for your knowledge and good things. you gave me.
22 weeks ago
I bought a 2012 Camry Hybrid built in "Georgetown Kentucky, USA"
21 weeks ago
The fact still remains toyota products are the best,av not heard of the 2012 hybrid camry sold any where in nigeria.
21 weeks ago
The fact still remains toyota products are the best,av not heard of the 2012 hybrid camry sold any where in nigeria.
21 weeks ago
Well I just got my Hybrid XLE around the Phila. area. I picked it up for $200 over invoice and used an internet service provider to get that price. I had no choice in anything! My previous car was totaled by a deer and I got the car before it was even on the lot! I looked at the Fusion Hybrid, the Sonata Hybrid and well as a Prius too. It BARELY has 30 miles on it and it is getting 22mpg. GOTTA love break in!!!
Some dealers have 3-4 but there is NOT a whole lot of them floating around yet. I drive myself NUTS trying to pick out which one I wanted! The Fusion was NOT as comfortable, the Sonata's passenger Seat has NOTHING on the Camry's. It was a hard choice between the Camry and the Prius wagon, in the end the Camry's BETTER comfort won it in the end for us. It was VERY, VERY close.
21 weeks ago
The new Camry hybrid looks nice, all the other hybrid cars look like cars for nerds.
20 weeks ago
i will love to have one of the classic type on 15th.january.2012
19 weeks ago
Nice..
19 weeks ago
Nice..
19 weeks ago
Our dealer in the Piedmont area of South Carolina had a 2012 Camry on their lot for four hours at the beginning of November. I asked if another came around let me know. We got our dark green Camry LE Hybrid November 15 using a quote from USAA Insurance services. Great, way under invoice price and $2800 under the cost of a Ford Fusion hybrid (did not consider a Hyundai Sonata hybrid because of actual real world MPG and braking reviews). After the first three gas fill ups, we're averaging 41.5 MPG. O.K., I'll admit that I'm having fun driving around like an old geezer milking the mileage for all its worth. My Prius owner brother-in-law said that this driving novelty mentality should wear off in five-to-seven years. I had to transport four adult friends on a two hour Interstate trip the other day and there were no uncomfortable remarks from the back seat. An added note: I tried one full tank of $$ non-ethanol gas and there was no overall mileage difference.
19 weeks ago
Our dealer in the Piedmont area of South Carolina had a 2012 Camry on their lot for four hours at the beginning of November. I asked if another came around let me know. We got our dark green Camry LE Hybrid November 15 using a quote from USAA Insurance services. Great, way under invoice price and $2800 under the cost of a Ford Fusion hybrid (did not consider a Hyundai Sonata hybrid because of actual real world MPG and braking reviews). After the first three gas fill ups, we're averaging 41.5 MPG. O.K., I'll admit that I'm having fun driving around like an old geezer milking the mileage for all its worth. My Prius owner brother-in-law said that this driving novelty mentality should wear off in five-to-seven years. I had to transport four adult friends on a two hour Interstate trip the other day and there were no uncomfortable remarks from the back seat. An added note: I tried one full tank of $$ non-ethanol gas and there was no overall mileage difference.
19 weeks ago
GREAT question ~ I would've purchased a Solara hybrid in a second had it been available. My Solara was one of the best cars I've ever owned and very sporty looking as well.
19 weeks ago
Hyundai will eat away Toyota one bite at a time.
Hyundai is now offering a lifetime replacement guarantee for hybrid batteries for its Sonata gas-electric hybrid/
18 weeks ago
The V-6 is quicker, not the hybrid.
18 weeks ago
to gbordor or anyone who knows the significance of "the classic type on Jan 15, 2012" mentioned in the post of one week ago?
Is there a special vehicle to be introduced on that date?
18 weeks ago
Toyota and Hyundai don't stand in the same league. So there is no question of comparing these two. Toyota is far better quality and performance wise.
18 weeks ago
I've driven many cars and there is no doubt that Toyota Camry is the best car to buy. 2012 Camry is beautifuly redesigned inside and outside and it gives you amazing comfortableness of smoothness and quietness. I don't think Hyndai cames no close to Toyota's technology.
17 weeks ago
we currently own a 2004 Camry XLE with a 130,000 miles, one owner purchased in 2006 with 23,000 miles...dependable excellent vehicle, superior quiet ride and very comfortable seats.....love this car. recently took a trouble free 3600 mile road trip across several states and got excellent mileage. No one can convince me otherwise about different types of gasoline making a difference in mileage. Averaged about 33 mpg and one tank got over 36 mpg and thats calculating to the T. The worse mileage we got was a little over 30 mpg on one tank and that wasn't in the mountains. Very interested in the 2012 Hybrid XLE and have test drove em a few times. I think its a nice looking vehicle and i love the peace of mind driving a toyota. I know anything can malfunction and it will but history proves the fact that toyotas will most likely not be broken down on the side of the highway. I test drove a Kia Optima as well, nice car but just cant convince myself to leave my toyotas. Also have a 2000 Tundra with 140,000 miles and going strong.
17 weeks ago
Twelve years ago I was turned off by Toyota when the Salesman wanted a $100 deposit just to talk car deals. I bought a Chrysler Sebring convertible instead.
I must have mellowed over the years, as I just made a $500 deposit to order a 2012 Camry Hybrid XLE due to arrive early February. I too used the USAA Buyer's Support to broker the final price. I only ordered the Convenience package and All-Weather mats. The dealership coordinated with a local shop to install heated leather seats for $1500 extra once it arrives. Far cheaper than the linked-options I would have had to get to have factory installed leather. And what looks like better quality leather in the color I want ( I was able to see a few cars already undergoing installation while seeing first-hand the leather options).
What sold me on the Camry Hybrid: mpg, acceleration going up the on-ramp, smooth quiet ride, comfortable interior, leg room for me (6'2") and my adult rear-seat passengers, quality work. And the exterior is pleasant looking...despite what I've read.
17 weeks ago
BIll,
I dont see a problem with the exterior as well Bill. Like you, i think its pleasant looking and thanks for the info on the local shop installing the seats. i will definitely look into that.
17 weeks ago
What I am wondering is if this car is good for new drivers?
16 weeks ago
Bill - I am very interested in the Toyota dealer and local shop that did your seats. Can you share the name of both? I am in Sioux Falls and am considering doing something very similar.
16 weeks ago
I just bought this car and it is amazing. I would say this review is spot on. I'm a devoted Toyota Owner and it was a No brainer for me. I've been getting 47+ and sometimes 50+ MPG's in this car. Mostly drive in ECO mode. Almost makes power mode pointless unless your in a hurry or just want to punch it for fun. I still can't believe I own one. Finally gave up my 99 Solara, 204,000 miles. I would recommend this car to anyone who can afford one. Don't waste your money on a regular camry, with this fuel economy it makes it the best car on the market in my opinion.
16 weeks ago
Spent a few days sitting in other cars as they seemed 'tight' for my 6'1" frame. They must all be built from the same computer program. Told my friend that she should pick out what she wants and I will 'suffer' the close quarters. No one told me to raise the seat! Bought a 2012 Camry LE hybrid the other day. Raised the seat and much less confinement on the right elbow. I also like the better visibility with the seat all the way up. Front tires still had 45 lbs in them and the car 'danced' all the way home in cross winds. Lowered it to 35 and the hunting/dancing was gone. Very positive steering. The 2012 was much better on the braking whine at low speeds (also drove a 2011 hybrid Camry). Interaction between the engine and electric motor was improved in the 2012. When 'punched' on a 70 MPH merge/onramp you'll hear that motor and it sounds good when surging to 80 MPH. The rest of the time very quiet. Some windnoise which I attribute to suction on the drivers side door and it would be worthwhile to figure out why and eliminate it. All electric drive is fun. ECO drive and cruse control eliminates all the thinking for economy if you aren't a hypermiler. Headlights are brilliant and the inside beam control is a nice feature when vehicle loading changes. Finest vehicle I've ever driven. Get yours while you can!
16 weeks ago
Spent a few days sitting in other cars as they seemed 'tight' for my 6'1" frame. They must all be built from the same computer program. Told my friend that she should pick out what she wants and I will 'suffer' the close quarters. No one told me to raise the seat! Bought a 2012 Camry LE hybrid the other day. Raised the seat and much less confinement on the right elbow. I also like the better visibility with the seat all the way up. Front tires still had 45 lbs in them and the car 'danced' all the way home in cross winds. Lowered it to 35 and the hunting/dancing was gone. Very positive steering. The 2012 was much better on the braking whine at low speeds (also drove a 2011 hybrid Camry). Interaction between the engine and electric motor was improved in the 2012. When 'punched' on a 70 MPH merge/onramp you'll hear that motor and it sounds good when surging to 80 MPH. The rest of the time very quiet. Some windnoise which I attribute to suction on the drivers side door and it would be worthwhile to figure out why and eliminate it. All electric drive is fun. ECO drive and cruse control eliminates all the thinking for economy if you aren't a hypermiler. Headlights are brilliant and the inside beam control is a nice feature when vehicle loading changes. Finest vehicle I've ever driven. Get yours while you can!
16 weeks ago
We are the proud owners of a 2012 Camry Hybrid! With only 200 miles on the car, we regularly get 40-42 mpg and are lovin' it! We drove Hybrid cars and/or cars which claimed great gas mileage. This is the only car which has the power to move in/out of traffic and onto/off of the interstate. This is an awesome vehicle. Great interior & wonderful, easy to use dash.
Those of you who may not like the looks may not feel the same way when gas is over $4 a gallon this summer. I think the car looks great, we are thinking about trading our other car for a 2nd Camry Hybrid!
16 weeks ago
It is a great car. I have car top carrier on mine and works perfect.
15 weeks ago
you cant put a larger engine in a prius and expect the same gas mileage. as you can see, it use to be that someone was a car or truck person. then the wagon came, then SUV, and now there are so many different vehicles just because people arent happy with just having a vehicle...and people get confused easily after looking at so many different models. and the prius has a POWER mode along with its ECO and Ev. so technically, it does have the same power as a corolla (hince it has a corolla powered engine). but the new prius C will be out in the fall and is suppose to look a little better and and a tad bit faster....take into consideration that a prius (depending on model...but none the less true for all models also) is more aerodynamic than a corvette.
15 weeks ago
Does anyone here know if it will hurt my 07 hybrid camry, if I put 20' after market rims on it. Transmission motor etc. any info will help!!!!
13 weeks ago
This is a great car which should not be expected to be perfect in every respect. The seats cannot be expected to match the mercedes s class or lexus LS. They are good enough for this class. The comfort too is just great. An improvement on that popular smooth quiet soft ride. To me this is the definition of comfort
13 weeks ago
I believe it's made in Kentucky
13 weeks ago
yes, it is. which is another bonus knowing your contributing to American jobs
11 weeks ago
my car is 2007 toyota camry hybrid, i drive this car on the worest road in the world daily and it prove it self, but my next car will be Hyundai Sonata hybrid cause korean cars realy have a significant difference of replacement parts, toyota replacment parts very expensive in my country some parts even more expensive than mercedes it self whayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!
so i will steb down dependibility and reality to Hyundai Sonata hybrid but keep it in perferct condetion because of cheap replacment parts.
11 weeks ago
I've had my 2012 Camry LE hybrid for 6 days and it is the best vehicle I've ever owned. Got almost 61 mpg avg on a 50 mi round trip recently. Avg'ing ~48mpg generally. Its comfortable and fun to drive. I stay in ECO mode -- why not with the mileage vs gas prices today, however switching out of ECO on the move, the car lurched forward with unexpected power yet has plenty of umph in ECO! I love the standard smart key feature, the body styling, and the interior upgrades. I've been a toyota fan for years and own a '97 T100 pickup also that has 215K miles and still purrs. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Toyota man altho I did due diligent comparison shopping before-hand on hybrids. The others don't come close. I would recommend this car to anyone looking for an exceptional hybrid vehicle. Toyota has the experience in hybrid design and make improvements every year. They are king. In sum, great MPG, reliability, quality, price ($1K below invoice) etc., etc., etc. sold me. Can't say enough about this outstanding hybrid vehicle.
11 weeks ago
if youre anywhere in the world and want to buy a camry any model email me will get you one or any hybrid
it's the best car out there for the money
here a sugestion
test drive the 450 H from lexus
and then test drive the camry Hybrid
$29,000 difference and i prefer the camry
and there made in kentucky USA
so you encourage are work force and not the ASIAN labor
and dont forget my golf carts they make over 50 MPG also
and street legal in many state
gas will be $7.00 a gallon like Europe soon Canada is almost $6.00 a gallon they put the price in liter to confuse you
you will pay $150.00 soon to fill up youre big SUV
warm regards
11 weeks ago
i forgot VISIT my website for a nice golf cart 50+MPG
Street legal in Florida and many state
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11 weeks ago
Have a 2012 XLE for a week now, traded a 2006 RAV-4 in on it, no problems with the RAV-4 except am getting some older an wanted more leg room an a better seat. Wanted a Camry back in 2006, but the Camry did not have enough head room with the moon roof. The redesigned 2012 Camry XLE took care of that, averaging 43.5+ mpg, Neat car to drive, like every thing about it, had some concern about the battery life an replacement cost the batteries are designed so if a battery cell goes bad, that cell only could be replaced an the cost would be greatly reduced even after the 8 year 100000 mile guarantee does expire. A friend that brought 2005 Prius used has never had a problem with it an she is getting 50+ mpg. Toyota does do it's homework................walter
11 weeks ago
I believe we could all get better mileage from our vehicles (gasoline only and hybrid) if we'd only learn to simply nudge the accelerator. Stop the "off-the-line" goosing and go the speed limit when on the highway. I find that when I do the speed limit (which I'm getting better at), cars pile up behind me and often a driver (young and old) is way too close to my rear bumper. Thats inconsiderate and makes everyone stress. Some of it is the competitive nature we all feel when on the road--keeping up with the Jones. I mentioned I got 61mpg avg with my 2012 Camry LE hybrid on one trip and avging 48mpg. If I can do it, anyone can. I encourage everyone to make an effort to change their aggressive driving habits. We'll all be safer and if there is a line behind because you're doing the limit or below, you are saving gas AND those behind you will as well.
11 weeks ago
I'm having a blast driving and learning about this beautiful car! Another drive today averaging 60+MPG in my new Camry LE hybrid. I'm learning how to drive all over using the multi-information screens. Love it when the car goes into EV mode on the road and watching the MPG green leds on the right shoot up to the top. I've gotten into the habit of pushing the EV mode button when the ready light comes on before the engine starts. The battery has to have a certain level of charge in it to do this, and it kicks off at ~20mph, but its just another tool in the bag Toyota has provided on this car. Great for increasing MPG even more and cutting emissions as well.
Read Consumer Reports today where the Camry HV is listed in the top 10 along with 4 other Toyota vehicles. Good job Toyota!
9 weeks ago
I have about 3400 miles on my Camry Hybrid XLE to date (since late November). My mileage has been getting better and better. I think part of that is I'm learning how to maximize the battery usage and partially some kind of break-in. I'm averaging almost 42mpg. If you check out this website, you'll see that Toyota hybrids often exceed the EPA mileage estimate. This is not true of the Hyundai or Fords - - they are getting far below their EPA estimates. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=browseList
9 weeks ago
That's a bulony. Camry 2012 Hybrid is truly the BEST there is in performance, looks, and fuel economy.
9 weeks ago
Right on Steve! That ain't no baloney!
8 weeks ago
After logging 190,000 on my 2004 Toyota Prius, I was ready for something a little more upscale--but it had to be a hybrid. After test driving the 2012 Prius, the Lexus CT100, and the Ford Fusion hydrids, I got in the 2012 Camry and immediately fell in love. I pick up my Barcelona Red LE this week. And it's the same price as I paid for the Prius in 2004. Thank you, Toyota!
8 weeks ago
Dear ammc - you made the right choice. I've had my Camry LE hybrid (classic silver) several weeks now and the excitment and enjoyment - not to mention the great MPG (51mpg) - has not worn off. You will love this car.
7 weeks ago
At first this 2012 model looks ugly.
Let's see if we get used to it.
7 weeks ago
Ugly!? Whats ugly about this beautiful, aerodynamically designed vehicle?
...or are you one of those who likes the super techie lines of an Elantra for example, preferred by the younger, wants flash, generation?
If your looking at hybrids, know the Camry HV has been super-tuned for aerodynamic slicing through the ether. Of course, if your a millionaire, you may not care as much about efficiency and the cost of petrol like most of us.
7 weeks ago
Test drove an '07 Camry Hybrid and hated it - purchased an '08 Accord instead. When it's time to buy again, though, I'll reconsider the Camry Hybrid and compare it to the '13 Fusion and Accord Hybrids when they come out. The new Fusion seems to win on looks and fuel economy, but total driving performance is as important in my book.
7 weeks ago
We received my wife's 2012 Camry Hybrid XLE two weeks ago. For the record we traded in a 2008 Mercedes Benz B200 (not available in the US) .
We ordered Attitude Black metallic with the leather package.
My wife sat in a car in the show room but we never drove one till ours came in , 4 weeks later. All the reviews we spot on . This is the car of the future, mark my words, Toyota has produced the answer to $200 a barrel oil (and believe me its just around the corner).
After owning a MB , I must say the build quality is as good and even better in the Toyota.
It is tighter and the acceleration far exceeded my expectations. It is super quiet and the JBL Harmon stereo is truly amazing and its GREEN designed. So far we have averaged 42 mpg on the first 2 tanks, we are still in cold weather so I can see that improving as the days get warmer.
Congratulations Toyota.. the best built cars on the planet.
7 weeks ago
Remember the movie "Who Killer The Electric Car", GM did.!!!!.. the Volt will become as will all electric cars a blip on the automotive timeline.
7 weeks ago
These spare parts and pics are really good and nice.I got some ideas from this blog.
7 weeks ago
please toyota don't ever stop making camry i love this car mor than anything else
7 weeks ago
Totally agree!
7 weeks ago
Totally agree!
7 weeks ago
Its made in Kentucky.
6 weeks ago
I'm Averaging 37.34 mpg mix of city and highway driving around Seattle. Nine tanks of gas and enjoying the XLE it is comfortable sitting in stop and go traffic. Reasonable visibility for the driver although the aerodynamic side mirrors and a little small.
6 weeks ago
I've been averaging 50-52mpg combined since I bought my Camry LE hybrid February 24th. I have driven ~3K miles so far. The terrain makes a difference. Is it hilly around Seattle? Don't understand why others aren't getting better combined mileage...
I'm a dedicated hyper-miler. The temps have been 30s at night and 50s during daylight here in Maine. Mileage will only get better when it warms up.
I nudge "Pearl" along. I rarely exceed the speed limit and often drive under the limit--especially if no one is behind me. The 2012 Camry hybrid is capable of excellent mileage. This is a great car but will take a change in driving habits for many to realize the benefits. Btw, gas has reached $4 here providing added incentive for hyper-mile driving.
6 weeks ago
Design is verrrrry boring. Should have talked to the Camaro designers.Like the mileage
5 weeks ago
Aesthetic preference is in the eye of the beholder.
I for one, love the simple, aerodynamic lines of the 2012 Camry.
5 weeks ago
Toyota production systems scores again-well done! 200 hp, 40 mpg avg, 10 air bags/3400 lbs (safe), quiet/comfortable/reliable/upscale for about $25k! Sound/proven engineering too-look at all the tech data! Others will follow, but Toyota has the head start folks-made in America too (Fusion in Mexico) Picky Engineer.
5 weeks ago
Right on DRJJJ ! (IR Engineer)
However, I will say the avg mpg "from the last start" gauge was a little off when I checked after gassing up today. I calculated the mpg after filling the tank at 49.7mpg (only took 5.25gals@$3.82.9/g in so. ME) although indicated 51.3 mpg avg on the dashboard long range mpg gauge. But, I had been out zipping around, putting her through her paces after 3500 miles driven. Engine pistons/valves cured...
So,,, the Camry's EPA advertised combined mileage of 39mpg is big time less than actual miles of almost 50mpg (based on a hyper-miler's driving habits)...and this for a mid-sized, family sedan auto w/200hp get-up-n-go. And she will push you back in your seat when floored, ...especially when you switch out of ECO mode! The reviews don't do the 2012 Camry hybrid justice wrt power IMHO.
5 weeks ago
I have about 4200 miles on my 2012 XLE Hybrid and absolutely love it. Have been averaging about 42mpg and climbing with mostly highway driving. I have to say (and this applies to pretty much any car), the most frustrating thing about tracking your mileage is the variance in "filling" the tank. With my Camry, I can put 1.5 to 2 gallons in AFTER the automatic pump shutoff, and I've yet to completely fill it. This shutoff varies for every pump at every station. My point is just that your calculation can be thrown way off in a positive or negative direction depending on how much you squeeze in at fill-up. You really only know your true mileage after averaging many tanks.
5 weeks ago
Hi GF,
That is a very good point you make about gas filling variability. However, I don't usually stop filling after the auto cut-off. I know its not recommended, but I continue to pump at the slowest rate the throttle allows until I get as much in there as possible, ie, even up into the tank fill neck. I pump until the nozzle continuously clicks off with the trigger pulled. As with most electronics, there is always an instrument accuracy tolerance. The new Camry HV mpg instrument read-out is apparently even less than +/-5% accurate based on vehicle instrument vs. calculated mpg.
I've checked the MPG several times since driving my 2012 Camry HV. One time the average mpg was within .8mpg of the calculated. Actually 0.8mpg over the read-out. However you're correct, the best way to get a good handle on the actual mileage your getting is to perform the calculations over a period of time. I'm at 3.8k miles thus far.
Bottom line, I'm apparently averaging ~50+ mpg with my 2012 Camry LE so far -- and absolutely happy with all other aspects of this beautiful car ...
Cheers!
3 weeks ago
Been through two tanks now. I'm getting about 42.5 MPG on 30 mile morning commute, mostly interstate driving in the low 70s. Driving on non-interstate trips, in econ mode, I'm getting between 45-50 MPG.
Why would anyone not pay the extra twenty-five hundred and get the LE Hybrid over the LE? This gas mileage is insane! Far better than EPA avg. MPG.
Get one while you can at this price.
2 weeks ago
JD reporting;
Took a trip in my 2012 LE Camry HV. Went fm ME to VA on 95, NTP, Tappan Zee Bridge, etc. and noticed a big drop in MPGs (~45 combined). Basically a lot of hi-way driving with a ~150lb load consisting of kit of drums, mics, stands and hardware in the trunk while the back seat had asundries for 2 wks stay in Virginia. It was hot; 90degs several days and high 80s most others -- didn't notice a bump in MPG due to higher temps, so maybe due to higher drain on battery when using A/C(?). did the entire trip without resetting the AVG MPG display. After ~1600mi., 44.6 MPG combined avg - still well above estimates.
1 week ago
JD Reports:
On the delta in performance between driving in ECO v.s. non-ECO:
While in non-ECO, the accelerator pedal is hyper-sensitive(IMO) and you feel the power transfer from the HSD system. I like the result of the CVT... a smooth power marriage between electric (volts) and combustion (petrol) that sets you back in your seat immediately or milliseconds later, pushes you back in your seat! Sooo, to those pundits who say there's no feel or sportiness to this car... I have to disagree (!) and I've owned several sports cars . The 2012 Camry HV LE drives like a well-tuned sports car. The 200+ pound electric moror power source helps balance this car. It corners very nicely once used to the electric steering unit.
If the ECO driving mode is used, there is noticeable power shift delay. There's a wait while the electric motor engages to produce 200HP. The delay is in the 100s of millisecond range. However, in non-ECO mode, I really feel like I'm driving a large responsive sports car. But that's just me. Thank you Toyota - and for building my car in Kentucky USA!
1 week ago
what if batterys go how much to replace
1 week ago
Toyota guarantees all Hybrid Vehicle batteries for 8yrs / 100K mi.
1) The battery is made up of cells which can be individually replaced, so there is lower cost if a cell goes - usually the case.
2) Amazingly, Toyota has replaced only 2% of its hybrid vehicle batteries starting in 2007 with the Prius.
4 days ago
Did test drive one the other day and noticed this too. Not sure, but it does bother me too.
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