Comments on: Chevy Volt No Longer an 'Electric Camaro'

By: Dumb Import Owner

Dumb Import Owner — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:45:20 +0000

I love how when an American car company steps up to the plate the doofus Jap lovers come whining at full force. Look kids, the Volt will represent a big step towards independence from foreign oil. The copycat engineers from your beloved Toyota/Honda will quickly copy GMs technology and trumpet it as some sort of breakthrough, then you can continue to undermine the American economy and buy your Toyota Amp/Ohm or whatever they choose to call it. The Prius and other hybrids are stopgap measures until hydrogen vehicles are ready for the marketplace.

Guess who is leading the world in hydrogen vehicles on the road. Yep, GM. Quit your crying and open your eyes.

By: Bryce

Bryce — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:00:15 +0000

mmmm….pet rocks.

By: gmluvrdon

gmluvrdon — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 06:09:19 +0000

Millions of people stood in line for pet rocks in the 70′s too!

By: Jeff

Jeff — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:12:49 +0000

You are right….I too would not worry about a car that only sold a measly 1.2 million. The Prius will probably stop production next year with Toyota, currently number 1 in worldwide sales, going out of business shortly thereafter. You and your fellow Republicans are smart. Keep posting your in-depth, insightful thoughts.

By: KoKO

KoKO — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:59:03 +0000

Get used to the idea that the Volt will not to be like the Prius. You must get used to the idea that it will be an American designed vehicle. Not everything made in America is no good. Some folks think American products are a automatic loser. You won't have to buy an American flag decal for your foreign car as many of you do. The decal is probably from China anyway (decal w/lead) and don't let the kids lick it. We should be extremely happy there will be more improved vehicles market to pick from and continue with the idea of some type of green vehicles becoming more available. The Prius will come down in price for those who want to drive one. But one thing for sure you are being taken advantage of by your friends at Toyota.

By: Bryce

Bryce — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:17:13 +0000

tBay, everything u cited is completely true, and I have been saying all those things and trying to explain to the people on this site. Trust me though, they will argue with u though. (and usually cite innacurate information and misquote u) Good luck, cuz they will be coming for u….and me. : (

By: Ross Nicholson

Ross Nicholson — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:43:32 +0000

Just cover the wheel wells, dolts.

By: Jon (UK)

Jon (UK) — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:18:55 +0000

I’ve got a 9 year old Volvo with 130K+ miles on the clock and would quite like to replace it now. The problem is after following the development of the Volt and other such cars, they sort of make the presently available vehicles seem rather old fashioned and antiquated. Every time a look at a new VW AUDI or BMW, I just have a deep feeling that I don’t want to buy one because the technology is virtually redundant. Even the new VW scirocco which is the sort of car I would like is composed of an engine gearbox and breaking system originating from the 1900’s, and is little more than a further development of a model ‘T’ ford, when compared to an electric hybid car such as the new Volt. So I am just going to keep my old trusty Volvo for a couple more years and save some more money, maybe for this Volt.
Does anyone else feel the same way?

By: tBay

tBay — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:14:53 +0000

To all the GM bashers, General Motors is and has been the number 1 best selling automaker in the country and the WORLD for the past 77 years: that’s saying something. This company doesn’t make “junk” and if they were, why are they the largest and best-selling car company??? I’ll admit (and THEY even admitted) that they were late to the hybrid game. With the Chevy Volt, they’re not just playing “catch-up”, they’re surpassing all of Toyota’s technology and every other automaker as well. They’re going to be the first major player in the new plug-in/electric field and I think that’s fantastic. They were already the first major company to the modern electric car field with the EV1. They were so early, the market wasn’t even ready for it (so they scrapped the entire program). Where was ANYone else??? I think the reason why people bash GM is because of some rough parts in their history. You may have bought one of their bad cars at a bad time. Had problems with past GM vehicles. Whatever. Boo-hoo; get over it. Every automaker has recalls and problems no matter who you are. You’re stuck on the past while GM has fixed these problems and moved on. Respect a great company when you see one. They promised to deliver on the Chevrolet Volt plug-in electric car and they WILL in all aspects; iconic design, unseen fuel economy, and American greatness.

I’m not going to bash Toyota because frankly I like Toyota’s cars. But before the Prius, Toyota was just another average car company; now everyone thinks they’re the ‘greenest’ and greatest car company. Come off it. They’re not. Comparing them to GM, They have 5 hybrid models across all their brands: So does General Motors. They claim they have 6 models that get over 30mpg: GM has 13. Toyota has NO flexfuel cars on the road and GM has millions already. They’ve both got hydrogen programs though GM’s is more prevalent and wide-scale. And now they’re delivering the Volt ‘electric’ car in 2010 and I don’t know if Toyota is or isn’t releasing another Prius around that time or not; they keep going back on forth on Li-ion technology. GM’s trucks and SUVs are more fuel efficent than the rudimentary ones from Toyota that can’t even crack 20mpg (look it up!) as well! So whose the green company? Toyota with their limited amount of efficient vehicles and programs or GM with their already extensive (and rapidly growing) collection? GM should stand for “Green Motors” because that’s what they are.
Please somebody, I dare you to argue with me.

By: Bryce

Bryce — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:07:08 +0000

Hmm.....well, here we go again. The Volt was announced about a year ago....not 3. So the retooling of factories to build it or a similar vehicle would either be near completion or about 6 months out. Now I also said in the next sentence that that 12-18 months did involve R&D time for a particular type of vehicle, but only the time to switch production from existing vehicle to another existing vehicle as Ford and GM are doing with their reallocation of resources from trucks and SUVs to small cars and sedans. coupling R&D time of 4-5 years, drawing board to lot can take 5-6 years.....usually.

As for someone saying Toyota was a lesser automaker, no one here has said that. (I know cuz I have been reading this particular discussion from start to finish) I said in an earlier article that Toyota is doing the same things GM has done because they are introducing larger and beefed up (and less efficient) versions of their TUndra trucks and Sequoia SUVs to take advantage of that market. I believe someone else then later misquoted me and said I thought Toyotas were lesser vehicles. (which I don't, they are very fine vehicles indeed) Then I guess u saw that and here we are now.

As for GM being able to use the EV1 as the base for the Volt, u and I both know that that would be a dumb idea. The EV1 used either lead acid or metal hydride batteries, seated only 2 people, and cost $80k+. That is not exactly the best vehicle to base your ground breaking model off of.

O, and Toyota, along with all other American car companies were fighting the CAFE standards change. They, like GM and others, are a company and will do what they can to produce a vehicle as cheaply as possible. (within reason of course) These standards make hybrids, diesels and turbochargers all the more necesary so that they can now meet the CAFE standards, but they are pricier.

On that note, I do believe Mr. Lutz has been quoted as to saying that 80% of GM vehicles will be HYbrids by 2020 so as to meet the CAFE standards. Now I don't know what type of arrangement these hybrids might be, on what vehicles and what type of hybrid system (ie mild or full 2mode)