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		<title>By: Peterbilt Trucks</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/chevy-volt-40-mile-predicament-26270/#comment-22538</link>
		<dc:creator>Peterbilt Trucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 08:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is great post.mostly car having certain limitation of speed with respect to their surrounding environment. mostly at highway speed of car is very fast.whenever the problems are faced during the long trip. specially if i never have to visit the gas station, buy gas, or buy all those impulse items at the convenience store/gas station locations. if I want to go on a long trip, I fly or rent a big SUV.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is great post.mostly car having certain limitation of speed with respect to their surrounding environment. mostly at highway speed of car is very fast.whenever the problems are faced during the long trip. specially if i never have to visit the gas station, buy gas, or buy all those impulse items at the convenience store/gas station locations. if I want to go on a long trip, I fly or rent a big SUV.</p>
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		<title>By: shawn</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/chevy-volt-40-mile-predicament-26270/#comment-22537</link>
		<dc:creator>shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey i think they had electric cars back in 1950&#039;s.  And undeveloped nations actually use diesal generators to turn electric motors that could be way better than this over priced concept.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey i think they had electric cars back in 1950&#8242;s.  And undeveloped nations actually use diesal generators to turn electric motors that could be way better than this over priced concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ in NC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ in NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 03:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The premise of the Volt is to simply make sure the Fleet CAFE is met, and to please its new masters in Washington DC.  The Volt will sell about as well as the EV-1. By the way, I wonder if the Edison Field charging stations are still operational. I left So Cal in 2004 so I&#039;m not up to speed on such details.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The premise of the Volt is to simply make sure the Fleet CAFE is met, and to please its new masters in Washington DC.  The Volt will sell about as well as the EV-1. By the way, I wonder if the Edison Field charging stations are still operational. I left So Cal in 2004 so I&#8217;m not up to speed on such details.  </p>
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		<title>By: Ilpalazzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ilpalazzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t wait for 5 o clock rush hour traffic to get even WORSE when batteries are dying while people are backed up. So much for the &quot;I&#039;m never buying gas again!&quot; approach!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait for 5 o clock rush hour traffic to get even WORSE when batteries are dying while people are backed up. So much for the &#8220;I&#8217;m never buying gas again!&#8221; approach!</p>
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		<title>By: Amir</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/chevy-volt-40-mile-predicament-26270/#comment-22534</link>
		<dc:creator>Amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fred Flinston had a more effective and reliable car. &lt;br /&gt;
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This is a effing joke. I hope you Obots are happy. You just wasted BILLIONS more of our money on this $41,000 lemon. A holes. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred Flinston had a more effective and reliable car. </p>
<p>This is a effing joke. I hope you Obots are happy. You just wasted BILLIONS more of our money on this $41,000 lemon. A holes. </p>
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		<title>By: Amir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Revolutionary? Give me a freakin break. The car is a freakin piece od crap!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revolutionary? Give me a freakin break. The car is a freakin piece od crap!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GM&#039;s Bob Lutz admitted at the Detroit Auto Show that he only got about 25 miles of range when he drove the Volt in cold weather.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GM&#8217;s Bob Lutz admitted at the Detroit Auto Show that he only got about 25 miles of range when he drove the Volt in cold weather.</p>
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		<title>By: JMS</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/chevy-volt-40-mile-predicament-26270/#comment-22531</link>
		<dc:creator>JMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Mr. Bear:&lt;br /&gt;
By the way, I should clarify... when I say my commute is &quot;hilly&quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
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The elevation difference between home and work is about 1,300 feet over the 21.5 miles. The last 6.5 miles on the way home account for 975 feet of the elevation difference.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Comment:&lt;br /&gt;
In a report posted at http://www.ct.gov/dot/LIB/dot/documents/dresearch/CT-2223-1-04-6.pdf is an account of driving the Autoroad on Mt. Washington, New Hampshire, in a &quot;Solectria&quot; electric car with 16 kWh NiCd battery.  Manufacturer’s specifications for the Solectria&#039;s AC induction motor state that it will deliver approximately 44 HP and is a brushless sealed design that weighs 78 pounds (lbs). Company specifications further state that it has extremely low electrical resistance; nominal power is 12 kW and nominal torque is 20 Nm; while maximum power and torque are 37 kW and 70 Nm, respectively. Nominal motor speed is 4,000 rpm and maximum motor speed is 12,000 rpm. The manufacturer states the motor has an efficiency of 92%.  As you can see, this car had less power than a Chevy Volt, but a battery of similar capacity.  The Solectria with NiCd battery weighed 2,700 lbs.&lt;br /&gt;
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The summit of Mount Washington is 6,288 feet above mean sea level.  The Mt. Washington &quot;Autoroad&quot; is approximately 7.6 miles long and rises roughly 4,600 feet to about 6,227 feet elevation (you have to climb the rest of the way by foot to the summit). The average grade (slope) on this road is 12%, while actual grades vary between 8 and 15%, with maximum grades of about 22% very near the top. The road contains about 35% paved and 65% unpaved sections.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The EV manufacturer was consulted prior to our drive. They modeled the drive and assured us there was ample battery power in the nickel cadmium (NiCd) pack. The NiCd BEV was successfully driven up the Mt. Washington &quot;Autoroad&quot; on a single charge. The car had ample capacity for this hill climb. In fact, as a result of regenerative braking on the descent, the car appeared to have enough energy in its batteries to repeat the drive to the summit, but our schedule did not allow sufficient time for a second drive up the mountain.&lt;br /&gt;
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Summary of Ascent&lt;br /&gt;
The distance registered on the car odometer during the ascent was 7.6 miles. In all, 47.06 Amp-hours were used to drive to the top. This equates to 7.02 Kilowatt-hours (DC). The speed-limit advisory is 20 mph on the Autoroad. The elapsed time to the top was one hour with four planned roadside stops.&lt;br /&gt;
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Summary of Descent&lt;br /&gt;
The downhill distance registered on the car odometer was 7.3 miles. The car recovered 17.93 Amp-hours through its regenerative brakes. This equates to 2.71 kWh Kilowatt-hours (DC). The downhill speed varied, but was generally about 15-18 mph (posted speed limit was 20 mph). Table 5 in the report shows the data recorded for both the ascent and descent on the Mount Washington “Autoroad.”&lt;br /&gt;
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Regenerative braking was all the braking required for most of the descent. Recovered energy was stored in the NiCd battery. The regenerative braking system recovered 38.6% of the energy expended for the uphill drive. &lt;br /&gt;
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Other observation:  The Solectria with 16 kWh NiCd battery consistently provided at least a 70-mile range on a charge, year round.  The experience with the Solectria and what I&#039;ve read about the Volt leads me to believe a Chevy Volt driven in central Connecticut will provide 40 miles on a charge for average drivers, but 55-65 miles for &quot;efficient&quot; drivers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mr. Bear:<br />
By the way, I should clarify&#8230; when I say my commute is &#8220;hilly&#8221;:</p>
<p>The elevation difference between home and work is about 1,300 feet over the 21.5 miles. The last 6.5 miles on the way home account for 975 feet of the elevation difference.&#8221;</p>
<p>Comment:<br />
In a report posted at <a href="http://www.ct.gov/dot/LIB/dot/documents/dresearch/CT-2223-1-04-6.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ct.gov/dot/LIB/dot/documents/dresearch/CT-2223-1-04-6.pdf</a> is an account of driving the Autoroad on Mt. Washington, New Hampshire, in a &#8220;Solectria&#8221; electric car with 16 kWh NiCd battery.  Manufacturer’s specifications for the Solectria&#8217;s AC induction motor state that it will deliver approximately 44 HP and is a brushless sealed design that weighs 78 pounds (lbs). Company specifications further state that it has extremely low electrical resistance; nominal power is 12 kW and nominal torque is 20 Nm; while maximum power and torque are 37 kW and 70 Nm, respectively. Nominal motor speed is 4,000 rpm and maximum motor speed is 12,000 rpm. The manufacturer states the motor has an efficiency of 92%.  As you can see, this car had less power than a Chevy Volt, but a battery of similar capacity.  The Solectria with NiCd battery weighed 2,700 lbs.</p>
<p>The summit of Mount Washington is 6,288 feet above mean sea level.  The Mt. Washington &#8220;Autoroad&#8221; is approximately 7.6 miles long and rises roughly 4,600 feet to about 6,227 feet elevation (you have to climb the rest of the way by foot to the summit). The average grade (slope) on this road is 12%, while actual grades vary between 8 and 15%, with maximum grades of about 22% very near the top. The road contains about 35% paved and 65% unpaved sections.</p>
<p>The EV manufacturer was consulted prior to our drive. They modeled the drive and assured us there was ample battery power in the nickel cadmium (NiCd) pack. The NiCd BEV was successfully driven up the Mt. Washington &#8220;Autoroad&#8221; on a single charge. The car had ample capacity for this hill climb. In fact, as a result of regenerative braking on the descent, the car appeared to have enough energy in its batteries to repeat the drive to the summit, but our schedule did not allow sufficient time for a second drive up the mountain.</p>
<p>Summary of Ascent<br />
The distance registered on the car odometer during the ascent was 7.6 miles. In all, 47.06 Amp-hours were used to drive to the top. This equates to 7.02 Kilowatt-hours (DC). The speed-limit advisory is 20 mph on the Autoroad. The elapsed time to the top was one hour with four planned roadside stops.</p>
<p>Summary of Descent<br />
The downhill distance registered on the car odometer was 7.3 miles. The car recovered 17.93 Amp-hours through its regenerative brakes. This equates to 2.71 kWh Kilowatt-hours (DC). The downhill speed varied, but was generally about 15-18 mph (posted speed limit was 20 mph). Table 5 in the report shows the data recorded for both the ascent and descent on the Mount Washington “Autoroad.”</p>
<p>Regenerative braking was all the braking required for most of the descent. Recovered energy was stored in the NiCd battery. The regenerative braking system recovered 38.6% of the energy expended for the uphill drive. </p>
<p>Other observation:  The Solectria with 16 kWh NiCd battery consistently provided at least a 70-mile range on a charge, year round.  The experience with the Solectria and what I&#8217;ve read about the Volt leads me to believe a Chevy Volt driven in central Connecticut will provide 40 miles on a charge for average drivers, but 55-65 miles for &#8220;efficient&#8221; drivers.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Volt&#039;s website says that should the Volt go over 40 miles a gas powered generator kicks iun that powers the car for hundreds of miles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Volt&#8217;s website says that should the Volt go over 40 miles a gas powered generator kicks iun that powers the car for hundreds of miles.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmm</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/chevy-volt-40-mile-predicament-26270/#comment-22529</link>
		<dc:creator>Hmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t believe the article is providing any false information.  Unfortunately, most people are truly unaware that mileage numbers are estimates.  I know the writer of the piece knows this, but GM is not doing itself any favors by promoting 240 mpg when the reality is that the condition where 240 mpg is achievable is rare.  The concept behind this type of hybrid seems sound, my biggest fear is that GM will produce a hybrid car in very low numbers that is not very good.  After unfortunately renting two GM cars (Aveo and Cobalt) the last year on various trips, I&#039;m afraid that the Volt is a Cobalt with a hybrid drivetrain dropped in with a high MSRP.  The hybrid naysayers will have a field day about the failure of hybrids to sell, where in this scenario it would be more about the car itself than the hybrid drivetrain.  I believe that we&#039;ll see this type of hybrid system (all electric drive) evolve in other vehicles, but not with this manufacturer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe the article is providing any false information.  Unfortunately, most people are truly unaware that mileage numbers are estimates.  I know the writer of the piece knows this, but GM is not doing itself any favors by promoting 240 mpg when the reality is that the condition where 240 mpg is achievable is rare.  The concept behind this type of hybrid seems sound, my biggest fear is that GM will produce a hybrid car in very low numbers that is not very good.  After unfortunately renting two GM cars (Aveo and Cobalt) the last year on various trips, I&#8217;m afraid that the Volt is a Cobalt with a hybrid drivetrain dropped in with a high MSRP.  The hybrid naysayers will have a field day about the failure of hybrids to sell, where in this scenario it would be more about the car itself than the hybrid drivetrain.  I believe that we&#8217;ll see this type of hybrid system (all electric drive) evolve in other vehicles, but not with this manufacturer.</p>
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