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		<title>By: Jan Settergren</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/car-electric-grid-utopia-caveats/#comment-9067</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Settergren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about a Hybrid car that has a fan in front positioned so that it rotates faster as the car is driven and generates energy to save gas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a Hybrid car that has a fan in front positioned so that it rotates faster as the car is driven and generates energy to save gas.</p>
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		<title>By: Joy Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/car-electric-grid-utopia-caveats/#comment-9066</link>
		<dc:creator>Joy Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 07:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice and very interesting article here. I guess the vision of having hundreds of thousands of electric cars buzzing along American highways is an understatement. But there&#039;s no reason that the EV1 should be killed. -&lt;a href=&quot;http://joyrider.blogdrive.com/&quot;&gt;Joy Rider&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice and very interesting article here. I guess the vision of having hundreds of thousands of electric cars buzzing along American highways is an understatement. But there&#8217;s no reason that the EV1 should be killed. -<a href="http://joyrider.blogdrive.com/">Joy Rider</a></p>
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		<title>By: Darrell D Lambson</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/car-electric-grid-utopia-caveats/#comment-9065</link>
		<dc:creator>Darrell D Lambson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 04:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never knew..Hillary has the only RIGHT view ( Obama and McLame want to keep OPEC flowing too our oblivion!&lt;br /&gt;
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Hillary Clinton favors an almost identical increase in fuel efficiency standards, but her plan offers an array of incentives for hybrid buyers and manufacturers. One such proposal would give a tax credit of up to $10,000 toward the purchase of a plug-in hybrid or the retrofitting of an existing hybrid to incorporate plug-in technology.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Her view of  our being held hostage by OPEC; is that it must be changed and focused on  Electric/flex fuel (generator for extended range) for everyday use which would cut 80% of our dependence on foreign oil and we must save Anwar oil for National Security and only use it for&lt;br /&gt;
planes, trains, heavy trucks (semi&#039;s), Military, pickups when needed and small engines. Then we can put those CREEPS back to herding GOATS and CAMELS where they belong!&lt;br /&gt;
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If Bush would of INVADED ENERGY INDEPENDENCE instead of Iraq;&lt;br /&gt;
and put the $5Trillion He added to our National Debt..... That Stupid A$$hole would of had a REAL LEGACY and I hate to say...might of been the best President in our Nations History!!!&lt;br /&gt;
Take A Look At What We Could be Driving.....&lt;br /&gt;
Jay Leno was a total skeptic of electric cars until he got hold of a Tesla; because he only related electric cars to His 1909 Electric Car..check it out!&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=229378&lt;br /&gt;
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..  &#124;///              &quot;Thank GOD&quot;               &lt;br /&gt;
..  ~ ~ //         &quot;only 9 MORE MONTHS&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
.. (/ @ @ /)       of~FEAR~GREED~WAR~LIES &amp;&lt;br /&gt;
-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-  &quot;THEFT of National Treasury&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
Republicans are famous for:&quot;Simply Ignoring REALITY&quot;!&lt;br /&gt;
They also; campaign that Government is BAD,&lt;br /&gt;
then they get elected(?) and PROVE IT!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never knew..Hillary has the only RIGHT view ( Obama and McLame want to keep OPEC flowing too our oblivion!</p>
<p>Hillary Clinton favors an almost identical increase in fuel efficiency standards, but her plan offers an array of incentives for hybrid buyers and manufacturers. One such proposal would give a tax credit of up to $10,000 toward the purchase of a plug-in hybrid or the retrofitting of an existing hybrid to incorporate plug-in technology.)</p>
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Her view of  our being held hostage by OPEC; is that it must be changed and focused on  Electric/flex fuel (generator for extended range) for everyday use which would cut 80% of our dependence on foreign oil and we must save Anwar oil for National Security and only use it for<br />
planes, trains, heavy trucks (semi&#8217;s), Military, pickups when needed and small engines. Then we can put those CREEPS back to herding GOATS and CAMELS where they belong!</p>
<p>If Bush would of INVADED ENERGY INDEPENDENCE instead of Iraq;<br />
and put the $5Trillion He added to our National Debt&#8230;.. That Stupid A$$hole would of had a REAL LEGACY and I hate to say&#8230;might of been the best President in our Nations History!!!<br />
Take A Look At What We Could be Driving&#8230;..<br />
Jay Leno was a total skeptic of electric cars until he got hold of a Tesla; because he only related electric cars to His 1909 Electric Car..check it out!<br />
<a href="http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=229378" rel="nofollow">http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=229378</a></p>
<p>..  |///              &#8220;Thank GOD&#8221;               <br />
..  ~ ~ //         &#8220;only 9 MORE MONTHS&#8221;<br />
.. (/ @ @ /)       of~FEAR~GREED~WAR~LIES &#038;<br />
-oOOo-(_)-oOOo-  &#8220;THEFT of National Treasury&#8221;<br />
Republicans are famous for:&#8221;Simply Ignoring REALITY&#8221;!<br />
They also; campaign that Government is BAD,<br />
then they get elected(?) and PROVE IT!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Curnow</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/car-electric-grid-utopia-caveats/#comment-9064</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Curnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 05:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On average Cars spend 80% of the time parked in the Sun. Why not make use of all that wasted solar energy to trickle charge Hybrid car batteries?&lt;br /&gt;
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Arrays of solar cells molded into the roof or placed on the rear parcel shelf would provide a useful additional source of energy for future hybrids - and remember that would be FREE energy.&lt;br /&gt;
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At this stage trickle charging by itself would not provide enough energy to entirely charge hybrid car batteries - but who knows what might be practical in the future?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On average Cars spend 80% of the time parked in the Sun. Why not make use of all that wasted solar energy to trickle charge Hybrid car batteries?</p>
<p>Arrays of solar cells molded into the roof or placed on the rear parcel shelf would provide a useful additional source of energy for future hybrids &#8211; and remember that would be FREE energy.</p>
<p>At this stage trickle charging by itself would not provide enough energy to entirely charge hybrid car batteries &#8211; but who knows what might be practical in the future?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/car-electric-grid-utopia-caveats/#comment-9063</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every time I pass a gas station I want to say FU** YOU to the oil conpanies, I raise my middle finger and salute them. How much profit is enough.  At $3.60 a gallon for regular fuel it&#039;s a shame.  I hope that the people can see that they (the oil companies) will bankrupt the small guys.  We have the tech. to make a simple electric cars. PLEASE somebody make an electric car for the masses and show the oil companies we don&#039;t need them!!!   We are a little over 4% of the worlds population and use %25 to %30 of the worlds oil (mostly from the middle east).  They are laughing all the way to the bank.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time I pass a gas station I want to say FU** YOU to the oil conpanies, I raise my middle finger and salute them. How much profit is enough.  At $3.60 a gallon for regular fuel it&#8217;s a shame.  I hope that the people can see that they (the oil companies) will bankrupt the small guys.  We have the tech. to make a simple electric cars. PLEASE somebody make an electric car for the masses and show the oil companies we don&#8217;t need them!!!   We are a little over 4% of the worlds population and use %25 to %30 of the worlds oil (mostly from the middle east).  They are laughing all the way to the bank.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Oppewall</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/car-electric-grid-utopia-caveats/#comment-9062</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Oppewall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s an important conference coming up May 28-29&lt;br /&gt;
titled &quot;Enabling Electric &amp; Hybrid Vehicles Summit 2008&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
where some of these issues will be discussed by industry insiders,&lt;br /&gt;
including GM and Project Better Place representatives.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It remains to be seen which technology will prevail regarding recharging of plug-in hybrids and EV&#039;s. For more information on the present state of vehicle recharging infrastructure in the US, and a link to this symposium visit http://EVtransPortal.com/cerip.html&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an important conference coming up May 28-29<br />
titled &#8220;Enabling Electric &#038; Hybrid Vehicles Summit 2008&#8243;<br />
where some of these issues will be discussed by industry insiders,<br />
including GM and Project Better Place representatives.</p>
<p>It remains to be seen which technology will prevail regarding recharging of plug-in hybrids and EV&#8217;s. For more information on the present state of vehicle recharging infrastructure in the US, and a link to this symposium visit <a href="http://EVtransPortal.com/cerip.html" rel="nofollow">http://EVtransPortal.com/cerip.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred Linn</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/car-electric-grid-utopia-caveats/#comment-9061</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Linn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[    Warfare is basically a time-space problem, and in that respect warfare and marketing have a lot in common.&lt;br /&gt;
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    According to Confederate States General Nathan Bedford Forrest, one of the most successful cavalry leaders in history, if you want to win a battle,    &quot;Get there first with the most.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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     It is often the momentum of being the first in the field that carries the day.    Being first in the field allows the commander to direct the thrust of the battle and relegates the enemy to reacting to initial thrusts, and losing the advantage of deciding the direction of force----they are on the defensive.&lt;br /&gt;
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    In many respects, marketing is exactly the same.     To wait too long is to lose the momentum of thrust and be relegated to simply reacting to new developments with too little, too late.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
   &quot;You have to believe in yourself.&quot;----Sun Tzu&lt;br /&gt;
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    Make it work and get it in the field..........you can always refine later.       ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>    Warfare is basically a time-space problem, and in that respect warfare and marketing have a lot in common.</p>
<p>    According to Confederate States General Nathan Bedford Forrest, one of the most successful cavalry leaders in history, if you want to win a battle,    &#8220;Get there first with the most.&#8221;</p>
<p>     It is often the momentum of being the first in the field that carries the day.    Being first in the field allows the commander to direct the thrust of the battle and relegates the enemy to reacting to initial thrusts, and losing the advantage of deciding the direction of force&#8212;-they are on the defensive.</p>
<p>    In many respects, marketing is exactly the same.     To wait too long is to lose the momentum of thrust and be relegated to simply reacting to new developments with too little, too late.</p>
<p>   &#8220;You have to believe in yourself.&#8221;&#8212;-Sun Tzu</p>
<p>    Make it work and get it in the field&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.you can always refine later.       </p>
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		<title>By: Dave99</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/car-electric-grid-utopia-caveats/#comment-9060</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hal:&lt;br /&gt;
Do some back-of-the-envelope calculations on the energy storage in the AirCar and let me know how they turn out / compare to mine (which don&#039;t correlate with the AirCar projections).  Imagine transferring enough mechanical power to propel a car two-hundred miles in three minutes, that in itself sounds fishy.  (gasoline can do this because the energy is stored in chemical bonds)  Also, it DOESN&#039;T have a zero pollution factor unless that compressed air is made with solar/wind/hydro/nuclear power.  Likely the compressed air will come from an air compressor that runs on gasoline.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In my eyes, the Volt doesn&#039;t have the exact same target market as the Prius, so it is hard to compare the two. The Volt will be more stylish, while I&#039;ve heard some people refer to the Prius as the Birkenstock of cars.  Until someone brings some hard market research data to the table, all statements about sales projections (including mine) are speculation and opinion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you all don&#039;t think these automotive engineers know anything, you should visit SAE World Congress next week and participate in a few technical presentations: http://www.sae.org/congress/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Everyone yells &quot;vaporware&quot; around here.  Don&#039;t you understand the idea of &quot;under development&quot;?  No, its not yet made, but it is being worked on with the full intention of bringing it to the market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hal:<br />
Do some back-of-the-envelope calculations on the energy storage in the AirCar and let me know how they turn out / compare to mine (which don&#8217;t correlate with the AirCar projections).  Imagine transferring enough mechanical power to propel a car two-hundred miles in three minutes, that in itself sounds fishy.  (gasoline can do this because the energy is stored in chemical bonds)  Also, it DOESN&#8217;T have a zero pollution factor unless that compressed air is made with solar/wind/hydro/nuclear power.  Likely the compressed air will come from an air compressor that runs on gasoline.</p>
<p>In my eyes, the Volt doesn&#8217;t have the exact same target market as the Prius, so it is hard to compare the two. The Volt will be more stylish, while I&#8217;ve heard some people refer to the Prius as the Birkenstock of cars.  Until someone brings some hard market research data to the table, all statements about sales projections (including mine) are speculation and opinion.</p>
<p>If you all don&#8217;t think these automotive engineers know anything, you should visit SAE World Congress next week and participate in a few technical presentations: <a href="http://www.sae.org/congress/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sae.org/congress/</a></p>
<p>Everyone yells &#8220;vaporware&#8221; around here.  Don&#8217;t you understand the idea of &#8220;under development&#8221;?  No, its not yet made, but it is being worked on with the full intention of bringing it to the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Armand</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/car-electric-grid-utopia-caveats/#comment-9059</link>
		<dc:creator>Armand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Except that the Volt DOESN&#039;T EXIST.&lt;br /&gt;
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Howell, you really need to understand the concept of comparing REAL HARDWARE TO REAL HARDWARE...not VAPORWARE.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s like saying the Airbus A9000 (which doesn&#039;t exist) gets 50% better range than the current A340&#039;s.&lt;br /&gt;
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Utterly pointless...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except that the Volt DOESN&#8217;T EXIST.</p>
<p>Howell, you really need to understand the concept of comparing REAL HARDWARE TO REAL HARDWARE&#8230;not VAPORWARE.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like saying the Airbus A9000 (which doesn&#8217;t exist) gets 50% better range than the current A340&#8242;s.</p>
<p>Utterly pointless&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hal Howell</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/car-electric-grid-utopia-caveats/#comment-9058</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal Howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Popular Mechanics did a cost analysis of the Prius, Plug-in Prius, Tesla and Volt. After all was said and done the Volt beat the Prius on a 200 mile trip by .03 a gallon! The difference between the $22,000 Prius and the nearly $30,000 (projected price) Volt was nearly zip! However, the 40 mile trip is where the the Volt beat the Prius. Same story for the Plug-in Prius. It only shined on short trips when it ran on electricity only. However, the price to upgrade a Prius to plug-in capability was $10,000! That&#039;s quite a lot to save a few cents at the pump. In reality, the standard Prius came out as the savings champ of the three when price was taken into account. The only way the plug-in Prius and Volt are better deals is if someone GAVE you one!&lt;br /&gt;
As for the Tesla, it cost the least to drive except for the $98,000 price tag! &lt;br /&gt;
So, if you want to save money at the pump, buy a Prius and move on. Unless the Volt is priced aggressively its not going to be the success it deserves.&lt;br /&gt;
   Another promising vehicle is the Air Car. It runs on highly compressed air and has a 200 mile range. It takes only 3 minutes to  refill and has a zero pollution factor. Price for the car? They are talking of $18,000! It has a top speed of 98 mph and very nearly zero maintenance (an oil change once every 50,000 as a matter of fact). ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Popular Mechanics did a cost analysis of the Prius, Plug-in Prius, Tesla and Volt. After all was said and done the Volt beat the Prius on a 200 mile trip by .03 a gallon! The difference between the $22,000 Prius and the nearly $30,000 (projected price) Volt was nearly zip! However, the 40 mile trip is where the the Volt beat the Prius. Same story for the Plug-in Prius. It only shined on short trips when it ran on electricity only. However, the price to upgrade a Prius to plug-in capability was $10,000! That&#8217;s quite a lot to save a few cents at the pump. In reality, the standard Prius came out as the savings champ of the three when price was taken into account. The only way the plug-in Prius and Volt are better deals is if someone GAVE you one!<br />
As for the Tesla, it cost the least to drive except for the $98,000 price tag! <br />
So, if you want to save money at the pump, buy a Prius and move on. Unless the Volt is priced aggressively its not going to be the success it deserves.<br />
   Another promising vehicle is the Air Car. It runs on highly compressed air and has a 200 mile range. It takes only 3 minutes to  refill and has a zero pollution factor. Price for the car? They are talking of $18,000! It has a top speed of 98 mph and very nearly zero maintenance (an oil change once every 50,000 as a matter of fact). </p>
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