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		<title>By: Katherine Martin </title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/bmws-7-series-diesel-possibly-headed-us-25304/#comment-15331</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine Martin </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2012 17:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.landrover.com/au/en/lr/discovery-4/&quot;&gt;diesel suv&lt;/a&gt; is perfect for the whole family. For a farmer like me, i can definitely get what I deserve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.landrover.com/au/en/lr/discovery-4/">diesel suv</a> is perfect for the whole family. For a farmer like me, i can definitely get what I deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: jrc</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/bmws-7-series-diesel-possibly-headed-us-25304/#comment-15330</link>
		<dc:creator>jrc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I&#039;m a few hundred miles into a new 335d - a welcome replacement to my 5 series.  So far it&#039;s pretty close to the EPA sticker of 23/36.  Long trip next week and we&#039;ll see if I can break 40. &lt;br /&gt;
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Getting the best MPG means putting efficient power plants in smaller, lighter vehicles.  The European BMW 1 series are what we want to see.  A big car will always be more wasteful.&lt;br /&gt;
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peace]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m a few hundred miles into a new 335d &#8211; a welcome replacement to my 5 series.  So far it&#8217;s pretty close to the EPA sticker of 23/36.  Long trip next week and we&#8217;ll see if I can break 40. </p>
<p>Getting the best MPG means putting efficient power plants in smaller, lighter vehicles.  The European BMW 1 series are what we want to see.  A big car will always be more wasteful.</p>
<p>peace</p>
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		<title>By: RKRB</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/bmws-7-series-diesel-possibly-headed-us-25304/#comment-15329</link>
		<dc:creator>RKRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dom:  You have a good point, amigo.&lt;br /&gt;
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I selected the average EPA mileage because that&#039;s what probably correlates best with the amount of fuel the car will be using in a year in the US (along with the total miles driven, of course). &lt;br /&gt;
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Hope this helps. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dom:  You have a good point, amigo.</p>
<p>I selected the average EPA mileage because that&#8217;s what probably correlates best with the amount of fuel the car will be using in a year in the US (along with the total miles driven, of course). </p>
<p>Hope this helps. </p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/bmws-7-series-diesel-possibly-headed-us-25304/#comment-15328</link>
		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess we&#039;re talking about two different figures RKRB. You&#039;re talking about combined/average, whereas the article doesn&#039;t really specify whether the 45mpg figure is city, highway, or combined. It also doesn&#039;t say whether that is a US/EPA estimate or a European one, as I know the figures end up different (EPA is usually lower). I kind of assumed the 45mpg figured had to be the highway figure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess we&#8217;re talking about two different figures RKRB. You&#8217;re talking about combined/average, whereas the article doesn&#8217;t really specify whether the 45mpg figure is city, highway, or combined. It also doesn&#8217;t say whether that is a US/EPA estimate or a European one, as I know the figures end up different (EPA is usually lower). I kind of assumed the 45mpg figured had to be the highway figure.</p>
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		<title>By: RKRB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RKRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[-Note to Dom:&lt;br /&gt;
My estimates were based on the mileage for existing diesels.  The 335 diesel, a less massive car than the 5- or 7-series, is listed elsewhere on this website with a 29 mpg combined figure.  The E series Benz diesel (which is still trimmer than the 7-series BMW, and closer to the weight of a 5 series Bimmer) gets 23 city/ 32 highway/26 combined, from the EPA.  Even the Jetta diesel gets 30mpg EPA in the city, and I doubt the 5- or 7-series will do better than that.&lt;br /&gt;
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-Of course, these are estimates based on the EPA for the US.  You will predictably get someone who claims to get much better mileage figures, just as some people will complain about low figures, but it&#039;s hard to generalize from these reports. No one should expect a car like the 7-series (or even a 5-series) to have very good mileage, based on the figures above. &lt;br /&gt;
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-Diesels don&#039;t necessarily equate to magical mileage.  The original Hummer had a diesel, and many light truck diesels are not terribly fuel-efficient, even compared with their gas cousins, for several reasons.&lt;br /&gt;
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-Anyway, we&#039;ll see. I hope I&#039;m wrong because we need to save fuel, but physics is physics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-Note to Dom:<br />
My estimates were based on the mileage for existing diesels.  The 335 diesel, a less massive car than the 5- or 7-series, is listed elsewhere on this website with a 29 mpg combined figure.  The E series Benz diesel (which is still trimmer than the 7-series BMW, and closer to the weight of a 5 series Bimmer) gets 23 city/ 32 highway/26 combined, from the EPA.  Even the Jetta diesel gets 30mpg EPA in the city, and I doubt the 5- or 7-series will do better than that.</p>
<p>-Of course, these are estimates based on the EPA for the US.  You will predictably get someone who claims to get much better mileage figures, just as some people will complain about low figures, but it&#8217;s hard to generalize from these reports. No one should expect a car like the 7-series (or even a 5-series) to have very good mileage, based on the figures above. </p>
<p>-Diesels don&#8217;t necessarily equate to magical mileage.  The original Hummer had a diesel, and many light truck diesels are not terribly fuel-efficient, even compared with their gas cousins, for several reasons.</p>
<p>-Anyway, we&#8217;ll see. I hope I&#8217;m wrong because we need to save fuel, but physics is physics.</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I beg to differ with RKRB&#039;s claim that the diesel will only get high 20&#039;s as far a fuel economy is concerned. Didn&#039;t you read the article?? It says the &quot;conventional model&quot;, which is no doubt referring to a gasoline model, is expected to gets high 20&#039;s. Put a diesel engine in its place and the mileage is going to be significantly better than that. At least in the 30&#039;s. 40mpg isn&#039;t unreasonable or impossible. Take a look at the difference between a gasoline and diesel VW Jetta.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I beg to differ with RKRB&#8217;s claim that the diesel will only get high 20&#8242;s as far a fuel economy is concerned. Didn&#8217;t you read the article?? It says the &#8220;conventional model&#8221;, which is no doubt referring to a gasoline model, is expected to gets high 20&#8242;s. Put a diesel engine in its place and the mileage is going to be significantly better than that. At least in the 30&#8242;s. 40mpg isn&#8217;t unreasonable or impossible. Take a look at the difference between a gasoline and diesel VW Jetta.</p>
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		<title>By: AP</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/bmws-7-series-diesel-possibly-headed-us-25304/#comment-15325</link>
		<dc:creator>AP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RKRB, you&#039;re absolutely correct. Automatically rejecting another country&#039;s ideas is called NIH (not invented here) syndrome. What do we call the incessant criticism of domestic ideas? IH syndrome doesn&#039;t have a good enough ring to it.&lt;br /&gt;
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FYI, American pollution controls make it very difficult to sell diesel vehicles here. Besides the extra costs, refilling a urea tank under the hood doesn&#039;t sound like fun. In Europe, they are a bit more lax on the NOx values to make it viable. Then again, with US diesel at $1/gallon more than gasoline, the market here is probably limited anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RKRB, you&#8217;re absolutely correct. Automatically rejecting another country&#8217;s ideas is called NIH (not invented here) syndrome. What do we call the incessant criticism of domestic ideas? IH syndrome doesn&#8217;t have a good enough ring to it.</p>
<p>FYI, American pollution controls make it very difficult to sell diesel vehicles here. Besides the extra costs, refilling a urea tank under the hood doesn&#8217;t sound like fun. In Europe, they are a bit more lax on the NOx values to make it viable. Then again, with US diesel at $1/gallon more than gasoline, the market here is probably limited anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: RKRB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RKRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, the 7 series Bimmer diesel will surely get worse mileage than the 3-series Bimmer, and that car doesn&#039;t get very good mileage. Fuel economy in the mid 40&#039;s?  Try the high 20&#039;s, probably. That kind of mileage won&#039;t solve many of our problems, that&#039;s for sure. &lt;br /&gt;
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If the Big 3 did something like this, people would be screaming things like &quot;greenwashing&quot; or &quot;over-hyped major disappointment.&quot;  BMW does it, and they will no doubt receive little but praise. Somehow, the European and Asian manufacturers seem to avoid the same negative press that has so deeply affected Detroit, whether it&#039;s fuel economy, emissions, safety, reliability, or whatever.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the 7 series Bimmer diesel will surely get worse mileage than the 3-series Bimmer, and that car doesn&#8217;t get very good mileage. Fuel economy in the mid 40&#8242;s?  Try the high 20&#8242;s, probably. That kind of mileage won&#8217;t solve many of our problems, that&#8217;s for sure. </p>
<p>If the Big 3 did something like this, people would be screaming things like &#8220;greenwashing&#8221; or &#8220;over-hyped major disappointment.&#8221;  BMW does it, and they will no doubt receive little but praise. Somehow, the European and Asian manufacturers seem to avoid the same negative press that has so deeply affected Detroit, whether it&#8217;s fuel economy, emissions, safety, reliability, or whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/bmws-7-series-diesel-possibly-headed-us-25304/#comment-15323</link>
		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice. I would buy one... if BMW was in my price range...&lt;br /&gt;
But I want to see more diesel choices here so I hope they bring it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice. I would buy one&#8230; if BMW was in my price range&#8230;<br />
But I want to see more diesel choices here so I hope they bring it.</p>
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