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		<title>By: veek</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/bmw-me-too-hybrids-25273/#comment-15234</link>
		<dc:creator>veek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ BMW&#039;s diesels do not appear to be any kind of environmental salvation. Quite the contrary -- people can now can justify buying some image-laden high performance car and supposedly feel good about it. If everyone drove diesel Bimmers or Benzes, our problems would not be much better than they are today.&lt;br /&gt;
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If GM or Ford came out with a supposedly &quot;fuel efficient&quot; car that got the low EPA mileage of these Beemers, people would be all over them about &quot;greenwashing,&quot; and &quot;dinosaur-thinking,&quot; and the like. &lt;br /&gt;
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 It&#039;s an old story -- Volkswagens and Japanese cars were very unsafe in the Seventies yet the Corvair and Pinto took the heat about unsafe cars, Mercedes and Audi had major reliability problems yet Detroit is the one associated with poor quality, and now BMW comes out with a car that gets mileage in the 20&#039;s and GM is still associated with environmental stupidity.  It&#039;s amazing how some corporations can just dodge the heat all the time, and others seem to get blamed for any misstep.&lt;br /&gt;
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 The Europeans must have some pretty good savvy with our esteemed press.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> BMW&#8217;s diesels do not appear to be any kind of environmental salvation. Quite the contrary &#8212; people can now can justify buying some image-laden high performance car and supposedly feel good about it. If everyone drove diesel Bimmers or Benzes, our problems would not be much better than they are today.</p>
<p>If GM or Ford came out with a supposedly &#8220;fuel efficient&#8221; car that got the low EPA mileage of these Beemers, people would be all over them about &#8220;greenwashing,&#8221; and &#8220;dinosaur-thinking,&#8221; and the like. </p>
<p> It&#8217;s an old story &#8212; Volkswagens and Japanese cars were very unsafe in the Seventies yet the Corvair and Pinto took the heat about unsafe cars, Mercedes and Audi had major reliability problems yet Detroit is the one associated with poor quality, and now BMW comes out with a car that gets mileage in the 20&#8242;s and GM is still associated with environmental stupidity.  It&#8217;s amazing how some corporations can just dodge the heat all the time, and others seem to get blamed for any misstep.</p>
<p> The Europeans must have some pretty good savvy with our esteemed press.</p>
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		<title>By: zack</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/bmw-me-too-hybrids-25273/#comment-15233</link>
		<dc:creator>zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz is right i think  this car can do better]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz is right i think  this car can do better</p>
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		<title>By: Samie</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/bmw-me-too-hybrids-25273/#comment-15232</link>
		<dc:creator>Samie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 04:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pio says: &quot;The whole electricity car idea is plain stupid as long as most of electricity comes from burning of fossil fuels&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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My question to you is where do you think your hydrogen &quot;fuel&quot; is currently coming from Hint the Chevron&#039;s love this because extraction of hydro pockets usually come from oil fields.  Not saying this won&#039;t change someday but until it is not associated with extraction of a non-renewable natural resource it can be linked with any current fuel or say electricity.  &lt;br /&gt;
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As for near future the EV does use electricity form burning fossil fuels but the great thing is that there will be many options to provide energy for your car independent of a energy grid.  Long-term Hydrogen or water vapor but again look at what many are not saying w/c hopefully will be resolved in the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pio says: &#8220;The whole electricity car idea is plain stupid as long as most of electricity comes from burning of fossil fuels&#8221;</p>
<p>My question to you is where do you think your hydrogen &#8220;fuel&#8221; is currently coming from Hint the Chevron&#8217;s love this because extraction of hydro pockets usually come from oil fields.  Not saying this won&#8217;t change someday but until it is not associated with extraction of a non-renewable natural resource it can be linked with any current fuel or say electricity.  </p>
<p>As for near future the EV does use electricity form burning fossil fuels but the great thing is that there will be many options to provide energy for your car independent of a energy grid.  Long-term Hydrogen or water vapor but again look at what many are not saying w/c hopefully will be resolved in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Pio</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/bmw-me-too-hybrids-25273/#comment-15231</link>
		<dc:creator>Pio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BMW proposed years ago a hydrogen car, with not much support from anywhere. &lt;br /&gt;
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The whole electricity car idea is plain stupid as long as most of electricity comes from burning of fossil fuels. The difference is that each  BMW car has very low emissions and does not have to send the energy along electricity power lines losing 30% or more of it.&lt;br /&gt;
It does not ask for much of bmwism to see that BMW cars give very good mileage: diesel 3-series uses less that 5 liters of fuel for 100 km! It is comparable with Toyota Prius without ugliness and sheer stupidity of Prius design, not minding the state subsidies for Prius in many European countries and the whole propaganda around it. &lt;br /&gt;
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Hybrid cars are like fight for peace - people who propagate it are the biggest problem. It is time to stop this wave of hypocrisy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BMW proposed years ago a hydrogen car, with not much support from anywhere. </p>
<p>The whole electricity car idea is plain stupid as long as most of electricity comes from burning of fossil fuels. The difference is that each  BMW car has very low emissions and does not have to send the energy along electricity power lines losing 30% or more of it.<br />
It does not ask for much of bmwism to see that BMW cars give very good mileage: diesel 3-series uses less that 5 liters of fuel for 100 km! It is comparable with Toyota Prius without ugliness and sheer stupidity of Prius design, not minding the state subsidies for Prius in many European countries and the whole propaganda around it. </p>
<p>Hybrid cars are like fight for peace &#8211; people who propagate it are the biggest problem. It is time to stop this wave of hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Facts on CO2 reductions</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/bmw-me-too-hybrids-25273/#comment-15230</link>
		<dc:creator>Facts on CO2 reductions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BMW Group actually reduced CO2 emissions more than Toyota in the US.&lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s the link:&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.environmentaldefense.org/article.cfm?contentID=6826 &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BMW Group actually reduced CO2 emissions more than Toyota in the US.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.environmentaldefense.org/article.cfm?contentID=6826" rel="nofollow">http://www.environmentaldefense.org/article.cfm?contentID=6826</a> </p>
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		<title>By: ex-EV1 driver</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/bmw-me-too-hybrids-25273/#comment-15229</link>
		<dc:creator>ex-EV1 driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hans and Frans,&lt;br /&gt;
Ahnold has a Tesla Roadster now just FYI.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hans and Frans,<br />
Ahnold has a Tesla Roadster now just FYI.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans and Frans</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/bmw-me-too-hybrids-25273/#comment-15228</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans and Frans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hans: Yah...the Beemah is a girly car..&lt;br /&gt;
Frans: Yah Hans...we need to Pump... (clap)...America UP...with a manly muscle car...&lt;br /&gt;
Hans: Yah Frans...B-M-W stands for  Be My Woman...yah it&#039;s really a girly car meant for girly men.&lt;br /&gt;
Frans: We need American muscle cars Hans, like the the souped up Hummer that our manly idol Arnold drives. &lt;br /&gt;
Hans: Yah Frans...Arnold drives over the girly men with that Hummer...squishes them like girly bugs.&lt;br /&gt;
Frans: Look at my muscles tingle Hans when you mention the manly Hummer.&lt;br /&gt;
Hans: I see them Frans...look at mine..they get bigger when I see Arnold filling his 100 gallon tank every 4 miles.&lt;br /&gt;
Frans: Yeah Hans...Arnold Pumps (clap) his gas Up all by himself...he a manly man.&lt;br /&gt;
Hans: Your a manly man Frans&lt;br /&gt;
Frans: No your a manly man Hans.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hans: Yah&#8230;the Beemah is a girly car..<br />
Frans: Yah Hans&#8230;we need to Pump&#8230; (clap)&#8230;America UP&#8230;with a manly muscle car&#8230;<br />
Hans: Yah Frans&#8230;B-M-W stands for  Be My Woman&#8230;yah it&#8217;s really a girly car meant for girly men.<br />
Frans: We need American muscle cars Hans, like the the souped up Hummer that our manly idol Arnold drives. <br />
Hans: Yah Frans&#8230;Arnold drives over the girly men with that Hummer&#8230;squishes them like girly bugs.<br />
Frans: Look at my muscles tingle Hans when you mention the manly Hummer.<br />
Hans: I see them Frans&#8230;look at mine..they get bigger when I see Arnold filling his 100 gallon tank every 4 miles.<br />
Frans: Yeah Hans&#8230;Arnold Pumps (clap) his gas Up all by himself&#8230;he a manly man.<br />
Hans: Your a manly man Frans<br />
Frans: No your a manly man Hans&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: DanX</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/bmw-me-too-hybrids-25273/#comment-15227</link>
		<dc:creator>DanX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just wonder... what about a 50 cc charging an battery and, say, two electric motors drive.&lt;br /&gt;
Full hybrid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wonder&#8230; what about a 50 cc charging an battery and, say, two electric motors drive.<br />
Full hybrid.</p>
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		<title>By: sean t</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/bmw-me-too-hybrids-25273/#comment-15226</link>
		<dc:creator>sean t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We usually praise &#039;Competition&#039; in the market (Bryce is well known for this).&lt;br /&gt;
Let the uncompetitive companies die and I&#039;m sure other (good, competitive) companies will pop up to replace them.&lt;br /&gt;
Their CEOs still get the golden handshake when asking for bailout from the government! Where is the money from? Tax payers!&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We usually praise &#8216;Competition&#8217; in the market (Bryce is well known for this).<br />
Let the uncompetitive companies die and I&#8217;m sure other (good, competitive) companies will pop up to replace them.<br />
Their CEOs still get the golden handshake when asking for bailout from the government! Where is the money from? Tax payers!</p>
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		<title>By: Picky McPicky</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/bmw-me-too-hybrids-25273/#comment-15225</link>
		<dc:creator>Picky McPicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All righty folks. GM&#039;s stock is down to $1.70 and there&#039;s talk of them getting kicked out of the DJIA. &lt;br /&gt;
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Out with the old...in with the new. So what, America loses 3 million jobs. The mortgage crisis caused the contruction industry to lose 3 million jobs to date. Toll Brothers isn&#039;t out there with their hand in the till. &lt;br /&gt;
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That&#039;s what GM gets for being a big, gloating, uncontrollable, inconsolable, behemoth that everyone loves to hate. &lt;br /&gt;
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Their holier than thou attitude has finally worn thin on the American people.  We are tired of GM producing crap...we are tired of the bravado...Michael Mooore, who I detest, was actually right on this one. &lt;br /&gt;
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Put GM in the hands of someone who cares about the consumer. Move it oput of the black hole that is Detroit and start all over again.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All righty folks. GM&#8217;s stock is down to $1.70 and there&#8217;s talk of them getting kicked out of the DJIA. </p>
<p>Out with the old&#8230;in with the new. So what, America loses 3 million jobs. The mortgage crisis caused the contruction industry to lose 3 million jobs to date. Toll Brothers isn&#8217;t out there with their hand in the till. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what GM gets for being a big, gloating, uncontrollable, inconsolable, behemoth that everyone loves to hate. </p>
<p>Their holier than thou attitude has finally worn thin on the American people.  We are tired of GM producing crap&#8230;we are tired of the bravado&#8230;Michael Mooore, who I detest, was actually right on this one. </p>
<p>Put GM in the hands of someone who cares about the consumer. Move it oput of the black hole that is Detroit and start all over again.</p>
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