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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 23:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some of you commentors could use a little education on this topic... the government has been paying farmers to grow NOTHING for generations, now if they want to pay the same money to have farmers actually grow something (corn) then that sounds a lot better to me, and if we can spend our money doing business with American farmers for fuel rather than middle east countries, that sounds better to me also. If you would do some research on the subject you&#039;ll see that people used corn to heat homes during the great depression, so corn has been used for alternative fuel source since before we were born. Today the biggest problem is that they are using ethanol in an engine designed for gasoline, and wasting much of ethanols potential.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of you commentors could use a little education on this topic&#8230; the government has been paying farmers to grow NOTHING for generations, now if they want to pay the same money to have farmers actually grow something (corn) then that sounds a lot better to me, and if we can spend our money doing business with American farmers for fuel rather than middle east countries, that sounds better to me also. If you would do some research on the subject you&#8217;ll see that people used corn to heat homes during the great depression, so corn has been used for alternative fuel source since before we were born. Today the biggest problem is that they are using ethanol in an engine designed for gasoline, and wasting much of ethanols potential.</p>
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		<title>By: houghton</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/are-e85-vehicles-destined-extinction-28278/#comment-26361</link>
		<dc:creator>houghton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Throwing 700 or 800 billion per year onto the sands of saudi arabia, iran, venezuela, iraq is lunacy. It helps our enemies. Don&#039;t you get it? Yes, it is messy transitioning from fossil fuels but we have to because it is in our national interest to do so. Support our farmers and ag businesses. Stop the tax credits and supports for oil and transfer it to cellulosic biofuels including ethanol and biodiesel. Ethanol from corn is a bridge only to get us to a better place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throwing 700 or 800 billion per year onto the sands of saudi arabia, iran, venezuela, iraq is lunacy. It helps our enemies. Don&#8217;t you get it? Yes, it is messy transitioning from fossil fuels but we have to because it is in our national interest to do so. Support our farmers and ag businesses. Stop the tax credits and supports for oil and transfer it to cellulosic biofuels including ethanol and biodiesel. Ethanol from corn is a bridge only to get us to a better place.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Levinstine</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/are-e85-vehicles-destined-extinction-28278/#comment-26360</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Levinstine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 00:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bush is a dumbfuk &lt;br /&gt;
electric cars are the way to go. &lt;br /&gt;
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damn u stupid neocons for destroying this country with your greed!!! may GOD punish you]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bush is a dumbfuk <br />
electric cars are the way to go. </p>
<p>damn u stupid neocons for destroying this country with your greed!!! may GOD punish you</p>
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		<title>By: sculptor</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/are-e85-vehicles-destined-extinction-28278/#comment-26359</link>
		<dc:creator>sculptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 06:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s corn based ethanol that was the mistake. E85 vechiles just piggybacked on it and now they will pay for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s corn based ethanol that was the mistake. E85 vechiles just piggybacked on it and now they will pay for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Shines</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/are-e85-vehicles-destined-extinction-28278/#comment-26358</link>
		<dc:creator>Shines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just because plants than can produce ethanol are created doesn&#039;t mean that they will be able to produce a viable quantity to offset the cost of producing the plant. I predict the ethanol news articles in about a year or two will be about trying to find enough bio mass (switchgrass, woodchips or whatever) to &quot;feed&quot; these plants so that they can produce. And that there isn&#039;t going to be enough biomass to be viable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because plants than can produce ethanol are created doesn&#8217;t mean that they will be able to produce a viable quantity to offset the cost of producing the plant. I predict the ethanol news articles in about a year or two will be about trying to find enough bio mass (switchgrass, woodchips or whatever) to &#8220;feed&#8221; these plants so that they can produce. And that there isn&#8217;t going to be enough biomass to be viable.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Reid</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/are-e85-vehicles-destined-extinction-28278/#comment-26357</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read these news guys&lt;br /&gt;
http://ethanol-news.newslib.com/story/6938-35991/&lt;br /&gt;
http://ethanol-news.newslib.com/story/6938-35988/&lt;br /&gt;
http://ethanol-news.newslib.com/story/6938-35982/&lt;br /&gt;
http://ethanol-news.newslib.com/story/6938-36000/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sunoco an Oil company is opening a huge Ethanol plant.&lt;br /&gt;
Automakers are rolling out more Flexfuel vehicles.&lt;br /&gt;
Cellulose Ethanol plant using waste steam from a nearby coal plant is coming up in Denmark.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read these news guys<br />
<a href="http://ethanol-news.newslib.com/story/6938-35991/" rel="nofollow">http://ethanol-news.newslib.com/story/6938-35991/</a><br />
<a href="http://ethanol-news.newslib.com/story/6938-35988/" rel="nofollow">http://ethanol-news.newslib.com/story/6938-35988/</a><br />
<a href="http://ethanol-news.newslib.com/story/6938-35982/" rel="nofollow">http://ethanol-news.newslib.com/story/6938-35982/</a><br />
<a href="http://ethanol-news.newslib.com/story/6938-36000/" rel="nofollow">http://ethanol-news.newslib.com/story/6938-36000/</a></p>
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Sunoco an Oil company is opening a huge Ethanol plant.<br />
Automakers are rolling out more Flexfuel vehicles.<br />
Cellulose Ethanol plant using waste steam from a nearby coal plant is coming up in Denmark.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Reid</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/are-e85-vehicles-destined-extinction-28278/#comment-26356</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As per World Bank estimate,  85% of the worlds energy subsidies goes to the fossil fuels and the share of fossil fuels in the energy mix is 85%.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So Oil also gets its share of subsidies.  Why do you think that gas costs only$3 in USA while in an exporting country like Canada it costs $4.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Reason : Uncle Sam subsidizes Oil.&lt;br /&gt;
Soon the cost of Ethanol will go down when they complete their 4 billion $ pipeline and when the cellulose ethanol plants reach mass production.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just like Wind &amp; Solar power installation have overtaken Coal &amp; Gas fired power plant installation in US &amp; EU,  soon the Ethanol will overtake gas.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wait for that day.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As per World Bank estimate,  85% of the worlds energy subsidies goes to the fossil fuels and the share of fossil fuels in the energy mix is 85%.  </p>
<p>So Oil also gets its share of subsidies.  Why do you think that gas costs only$3 in USA while in an exporting country like Canada it costs $4.</p>
<p>Reason : Uncle Sam subsidizes Oil.<br />
Soon the cost of Ethanol will go down when they complete their 4 billion $ pipeline and when the cellulose ethanol plants reach mass production.</p>
<p>Just like Wind &#038; Solar power installation have overtaken Coal &#038; Gas fired power plant installation in US &#038; EU,  soon the Ethanol will overtake gas.</p>
<p>Wait for that day.</p>
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		<title>By: Shines</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/are-e85-vehicles-destined-extinction-28278/#comment-26355</link>
		<dc:creator>Shines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think most Americans can see the feeble attempt by government to create an ethanol market.&lt;br /&gt;
Subsidize the farmers to grow extra corn or switchgrass.&lt;br /&gt;
Subsidize the  ethanol plants to create the ethanol (and now that the plants exist they still aren&#039;t profitable).&lt;br /&gt;
Subsidize the auto manufactureres to produce vehicles that can handle the ethanol.&lt;br /&gt;
And in the end you have a fuel that is less efficient and would account for less than 5% of annual use.&lt;br /&gt;
Enough is enough...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most Americans can see the feeble attempt by government to create an ethanol market.<br />
Subsidize the farmers to grow extra corn or switchgrass.<br />
Subsidize the  ethanol plants to create the ethanol (and now that the plants exist they still aren&#8217;t profitable).<br />
Subsidize the auto manufactureres to produce vehicles that can handle the ethanol.<br />
And in the end you have a fuel that is less efficient and would account for less than 5% of annual use.<br />
Enough is enough&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Max Reid</title>
		<link>http://www.hybridcars.com/are-e85-vehicles-destined-extinction-28278/#comment-26354</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both GM and Ford are going to sell 1/2 their vehicles as Flexfuels by 2012.  Chrysler, Benz, Nissan, Toyota are joining in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As the price of Ethanol goes below that of gas,  more people could start buying Flexfuels.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Already 84% of the gas sold are E10,  its time to start moving onto E85.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just now, we saw the ugly face of Oil in the Gulf of Mexico.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both GM and Ford are going to sell 1/2 their vehicles as Flexfuels by 2012.  Chrysler, Benz, Nissan, Toyota are joining in.</p>
<p>As the price of Ethanol goes below that of gas,  more people could start buying Flexfuels.  </p>
<p>Already 84% of the gas sold are E10,  its time to start moving onto E85.</p>
<p>Just now, we saw the ugly face of Oil in the Gulf of Mexico.</p>
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		<title>By: Samie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes Mr. Bear, ethanol is mandated and consumers in some states have no options/choice in how much ethanol is pumped into their tanks.  Lets say hypothetically, that the government mandated at least 20 percent of all vehicles sold by 2020, over 35k would be required to be a plug-in hybrid or pure EV.  Would some of the same ethanol advocates be crying foul over such use of regulations? Of course!  The ethanol industry can not sustain itself including the lack of private investments, so lets end this government handout, let consumers choice if they want gasoline with or without ethanol and we should all start thinking beyond short-term fuel schemes like ethanol/E85 that get us nowhere.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Mr. Bear, ethanol is mandated and consumers in some states have no options/choice in how much ethanol is pumped into their tanks.  Lets say hypothetically, that the government mandated at least 20 percent of all vehicles sold by 2020, over 35k would be required to be a plug-in hybrid or pure EV.  Would some of the same ethanol advocates be crying foul over such use of regulations? Of course!  The ethanol industry can not sustain itself including the lack of private investments, so lets end this government handout, let consumers choice if they want gasoline with or without ethanol and we should all start thinking beyond short-term fuel schemes like ethanol/E85 that get us nowhere.  </p>
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