Then TheFlyingDutchmen asked: “What did Toyota say when you asked them where the Rav4 Electric Vehicle was?”

And I say: Toyota ceased production of the Rav4 Electric Vehicle, but they did sell them to anyone that wished to buy one (admittedly they were reluctant at first, but they did come around). Have you asked GM who they sold their EV1s to?

Coal reserves have been found to be grossly overstated. And it has been said that the peak in energy content of coal being mined has already passed.

There is a real possibility the transportation future could look a lot like the past – bicycles and electric trolleys. And maybe horses out in the countryside.

What did Toyota say when you asked them where the Rav4 Electric Vehicle was?

With all due respect, I think you are mistaken.

First, you complain about how hybrids don’t meet the epa est’s, but then fail to mention that most other cars don’t meet these estimates either.

Second, the only Ford Escape that gets “good” gas mileage is the…..hybrid. Surprise!

Third, I agree that hybrids are a transition technology. And? What is the problem? Should we all drive cars that get subpar gas mileage for the next 5, 10, 20 years waiting for this car to hit the market?? That doesn’t make any sense.

Fourth, if everyone does wait for this hypothetical ev car, that means nobody will be buying more fuel efficient vehicles now. Which means that the automakers will have even less incentive for producing these vehicles….which will push back the development of such a vehicle.

Fifth, where do you think the Camry is made? Right here in my home state. So, you want to buy an “American” hybrid, but that one. And while we are at it….exactly WHOSE fault is it that we don’t have more domestic options in this market segment? I think we all know the answer to that question. The same people that bet the farm on Suburbans and Expeditions.

Sixth, along those line, I for one WANT a domestically produced option. But I am not going to buy an inferior product or something that gets cr*p gas mileage just because it was made in the USA. The Escape Hybrid is on my “possible purchase” list. But there are no other options. Once again, whose fault is that? I want to buy such a vehicle, but right now I only have ONE domestic option.

Finally, if you think that people are doing this to be “in style” then you have no clue what this is all about.

But, on the subject of GM, I hope they do ship this car, I really do, but this is the same company that “killed” the EV-1. To be honest, I’m not interested in what the Big Three is doing. They are “Yesterday’s Automakers” and should be perceived and treated as such.

My opinion is its a big Fad and people who buy it are not reading the true story. They waste money and causing more air smog by causing new cars to be built. Plus all the money in one of these goes straight to a foreign country. Only 1/8 of the money in this car goes back to the USA. Where when you buy an American car no matter where its built 85% of the money goes back into the USA.

I looked up the first electric car was the Detroit Electric in 1918 got 40 miles on a charge and used no gas at all.

Hybrids come from technologies that are not established. IE. Hybrid TV sets of the 1960s Transistor/Tube. Now its all Transistors or IC’s. The only car you will see in 20 years is all EV you wont see any hybrids because they will be in-efficient.

First of all Prius is Very frumpy

Second you can get better millage on many cars close on some SUVs like the Ford escape.

IN Washington DC I see all the Prius owners ride around in the 100 degree heat with the windows open because when the AC is running the car has to be on Engine Only mode no EV. So you get like 30 MPG … Funny how the famous car fails when you have heat.

The correct figures on Prius are like 40 City.

I have friends who own them and they get about that.

Toyota famous lies is what I cant stand. There cars are not safe in fact I read where the new Tundra failed the crash tests. This company just cares about profits and draining the American dollar to make Japan richer oh and I love the ads ” Made in America” what they dont tell you is all the money and profits dont go back into this country. Infact I read some research you would have to buy 4 toyotas to equal what one GM or Ford puts back into our country.

Its nasty when people sell out to there own country to just be ” IN Style”